Hardware Problem

raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
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I recently built a computer, and managed to get XP installed, and gpt windows up and running.
Then the screen went all distorted, and i found that my video card's fan(HIS Excalibur X800Pro Vivo ICEQII) wasn't operational, and after a while, i found out that it was my sound card(Audigy 2 ZS) touching the fan, and stopping it from rotating, so i thought, fine, i'll switch it with the firewire card in the next slot(it was smaller), and then i turn on the computer, and the screen isn't coming on, so i look inside the case, and the activity LEDs on the RAM aren't lightiung up, as they have every other time the computer has been on. So basically, my RAM isn't functioning, and the only things i can think of is that either the RAM, mobo or CPU have been damaged, as the computer has been turning o and off alot in the debugging process.
The first time that noticed it wasn't working was when I switched the Sounds card and Firewire card, but i don't see how it could be related to that.

Before, my AGP/PCI slots went like this:

AGP:X800Pro
PCI#1: empty, large video card cooler covers up this slot.
PCI#2: Audigy 2 ZS
PCI#3: Firewire card.

Currently:
AGP: X800pro
PCI#1: empty
PCI#2: firewire card
PCI#3: Audigy 2 ZS


When I get my wireless router, i'll move the firewire card down one slot, and put the wireless card in it's place.


Basically, does anyone know what couold have caused this?
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  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Are there any signals coming from you mainboard? does it beep?
    If not it's a mainboard/power supply problem.
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    I'm pretty sure it beeps, i can't remember though.

    It's not a power supply problem, as all of the fans are still operational.
    And the Mobo is recieveing power, as the CPU fan is working, and it gets its power from the board.
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  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Are you using 2 x 256/512 ?
    Try using just 1 and try it out in every slot.
    Disconnect all peripherials from you MB and power supply, leave just the most needed parts (ram, cpu, your precious x800) and try it out.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Listen. And. <a href='http://www.pchell.com/hardware/beepcodes.shtml' target='_blank'>Read</a>.
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    i thought the POST test only took place on the FIRST time the PC was turned on.

    The computer was working, until i think the video card overheated.
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Also, remove your video card and put in an old crud one. If the HSF wasn't spinning, it got damn hot. You may have just fried your video card. Putting in the old generic card will tell you if you've just wasted quite a bit of money or not.
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    Problem seems to be fixed, just moved some things around, wiggled some plugs, it's fixed.

    P.S. Should a 3.4 GHz Prescott be running at 80 Degrees Celsius?
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  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-raz0r+Sep 19 2004, 01:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (raz0r @ Sep 19 2004, 01:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> P.S. Should a 3.4 GHz Prescott be running at 80 Degrees Celsius? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think thts good...My CPU runs at 28C on average...although my CPU is a Prescott 2.8GHz. I think thats a little hot. I would keep an eye on it with Motherboard Monitor. Its a free program you can get at <a href='http://mbm.livewiredev.com' target='_blank'>http://mbm.livewiredev.com</a>. Dis you use thermal grease? If not, try putting some on, it helps heat transfer to your heatsink. Also, try getting a better heatsink.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-raz0r+Sep 19 2004, 01:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (raz0r @ Sep 19 2004, 01:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Problem seems to be fixed, just moved some things around, wiggled some plugs, it's fixed.

    P.S. Should a 3.4 GHz Prescott be running at 80 Degrees Celsius? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, no it shouldn't. Prescots run hot, but you shouldn't be idling above 50 and you shouldn'b be above 70 fully worked.

    Update your bios first, make sure it isn't just a glitch in the temp meter, then get some thermal paste inbetween your HSF and the chip. Last ditch attempt, get the case temperature as low as possible by taking off the side panel and blowing a room fan or air conditioner directly into the case, see if that workes. If all else fails, you need a new HS/F, or you could always go for water cooling, because that would be damn sexy.

    <a href='http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm' target='_blank'>[edit] How to prep a CPU, and apply artic silver thermal paste.</a>
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    Yeah 80C is insane. You can cook on that thing.
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    edited September 2004
    I have some thermal paste, but i don't know how to use it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    My CPU didnt come with a eatsink/fan, so i got one of <a href='http://www.nexustek.nl/pht3600.htm' target='_blank'>These</a>, it was what the shop guy recommended.



    [EDIT:]It was 50-60C when nothing was happening, and the warning went off at 75 when i was in the menu on BF:V and it stayed at 75
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I gave you a link in my post. FYI, I think you got seriously **** blasted on that HS fan. That thing is only set for 3.2 + pentiums, you really should have gone with something all copper, like <a href='http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/comboCool/cl-p0024tower112/cl-p0024tower112.htm' target='_blank'>this</a>

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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    Would <a href='http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=141&code=005009' target='_blank'>this</a> do?

    I can't find the one you suggested on the site that i tend to buy stuff from.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Can I get a link to the site that you tend to buy things from? that zalman is a nice cooler, but you need to make holes to install it, you should really be looking for a HSF that is clip on. FYI the high preformance tower would be a bit excessive <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I just posted it because it is nice to look at.
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    <a href='http://shop.sallandautomatisering.nl/default.jsp' target='_blank'>HERE</a> is the site.

    It's in dutch, but the processor coolers are under 'basisonderdelen' then 'processorkoelers'
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited September 2004
    [edit] <a href='http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm' target='_blank'>Oh, artic silver instructions</a>
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Sep 19 2004, 09:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Sep 19 2004, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://shop.sallandautomatisering.nl/default.jsp' target='_blank'>Good low level HSF</a>
    <a href='http://shop.sallandautomatisering.nl/default.jsp' target='_blank'>Almost exaclty what I linked you to before, this is an OC HSF</a>
    <a href='http://shop.sallandautomatisering.nl/default.jsp' target='_blank'>Don't know how it works, but no screws required</a>
    <a href='http://shop.sallandautomatisering.nl/default.jsp' target='_blank'>Same deal, just in all copper = much more heatproof</a>

    [edit] <a href='http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm' target='_blank'>Oh, artic silver instructions</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You might want to put the names on, the site doesnt link to individual products, they all lead to the homepage
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-raz0r+Sep 19 2004, 02:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (raz0r @ Sep 19 2004, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Sep 19 2004, 09:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Sep 19 2004, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    [edit] <a href='http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm' target='_blank'>Oh, artic silver instructions</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You might want to put the names on, the site doesnt link to individual products, they all lead to the homepage <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ARG, stupid, **** poor java webcoding <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Ok, it will be one sec...

    [edit]

    Names of products:
    CoolerMaster Aero 4 Copper
    Thermaltake Silent Tower Heatpipe
    Zalman CNPS6000-Cu

    If you go for the zalman I got a installation guide <a href='http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=33&code=010' target='_blank'>here</a>
    <a href='http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=ISB-V73&other_title=ISB-V73Aero%204' target='_blank'>Coolermaster aero four website</a>

    <a href='http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/cl-p0025/cl-p0025silentTower.htm' target='_blank'>heat pipe tower website</a>
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    Turns out the HSF was only designed for up to 3.2 GHz processors.

    Got me a new one, put the thermal stuff on, and the temperature is back down.


    w00p!
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