But, those characters weren't meant to be intimidating. They were the heroes. They can have silly names.
Now, look at the villains. Darth Vader. Just say it. It doesn't sound like someone you want to meet. And Emperor Palpatine sounds almost equally impressive.
Then you have Count Dooku. Say it out loud. Now try and look me in the eye and say it has the same effect as "Darth Vader".
Come up with the best character names for the next Star Wars with equally dubious alliteration and i will give you a gold star for the wall chart. Go forth and make bad jokes worse.
<!--QuoteBegin-coil+Sep 20 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 20 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know, the *much* more significant news is that Lucas is messing with the Screen Actor's Guild. I say kudos to Oldman for bowing out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Every Star Wars film was made outside of the Screen Actors Guild.
Perhaps the better question is: Why do millionaires need a union?
For ways to bail out of crappy movies? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Organa Hutt Fett Vader Palpatine Kenobi Solo Skywalker (this is about the worst it got, and even then, its not too bad)
New Star Wars:
Dooku Binks Maul Grievious
WHERE WILL THE SUCKING STOP, LUCAS?!
I swear, if this new movie isn't half-way decent, we're forming a mob. Who's with me?! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Anyone else think it is sexually suggestive?
If I put it in the context:
I will Fett your Kenobi Palpatine. Make your Organa feel like Skywalker. Solo your Maul can Vader my Hutt. Watch out for the Grievious Dooku.
You dumbarses make me laugh bitching about lucas ruining star wars likes it friggen belongs to you an he has no righ to tinker with it....
The guy created it FFS it's his baby to do with as he pleases tbh there's nowt wrong with the new ones that have come out they could never hope to capture the magic of the original trilogy cos it had already been done but please for the love of god stop bitching like a bunch of lame arse cry babies who have had their lolly pop stolen just because YOU don't like the sound of something that's gonna be in the new film.
I mean complaining about the names Dooku and General Grievious these 2 don't sound any more cheesy that Darth Vader tbh. What sort of names would you like the characters to have then?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->? hmmmm...... John Smith? Casey Ryback? Bruce Wayne? Vinnie Jones?
<!--QuoteBegin-V-MAN+Sep 21 2004, 02:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Sep 21 2004, 02:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You dumbarses make me laugh bitching about lucas ruining star wars likes it friggen belongs to you an he has no righ to tinker with it....
The guy created it FFS it's his baby to do with as he pleases tbh there's nowt wrong with the new ones that have come out they could never hope to capture the magic of the original trilogy cos it had already been done but please for the love of god stop bitching like a bunch of lame arse cry babies who have had their lolly pop stolen just because YOU don't like the sound of something that's gonna be in the new film.
I mean complaining about the names Dooku and General Grievious these 2 don't sound any more cheesy that Darth Vader tbh. What sort of names would you like the characters to have then?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->? hmmmm...... John Smith? Casey Ryback? Bruce Wayne? Vinnie Jones?
btw Gary Oldman's best film was "The Firm"
edit not the crud one with tom cruise <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'd think up one of my cruel, witty, and overall brilliant comments for this post, but I think it alone has more comedic value than I can conjure.
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<!--QuoteBegin-V-MAN+Sep 21 2004, 03:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Sep 21 2004, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You dumbarses make me laugh bitching about lucas ruining star wars likes it friggen belongs to you an he has no righ to tinker with it....
The guy created it FFS it's his baby to do with as he pleases tbh there's nowt wrong with the new ones that have come out they could never hope to capture the magic of the original trilogy cos it had already been done but please for the love of god stop bitching like a bunch of lame arse cry babies who have had their lolly pop stolen just because YOU don't like the sound of something that's gonna be in the new film. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> Angst +1, anyone?
I'm afraid criticism, both constructive and otherwise is a fact of human nature, and always has been. There's very little you can do about it. However, once you've created something with a huge fan base, tinkering with it even slightly will always bring recriminations. Outright rewriting (which is what's happened) is bound to get these sorts of responses.
As for them being 'his'. Well, only partially, as he didn't direct either Return of the Jedi or Empire Strikes Back, both of which are generally considered to the 'best' of the Star Wars films. Coincidence? I think not. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Sep 21 2004, 01:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Sep 21 2004, 01:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd take grevious over dooku. Dooku sounds like baby speak or something o.O
Oldman rocks... if anything it's hard to remember him outside of Leon. Ok so he did the firm and a ton of other stuff but LEON!!!
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Leon...</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> BOW FOR NOT REMEMBERING "THE FIFTH ELEMENT"! ... ok he was sooo good in Leon. a pill-eating-crocked-cop
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<!--QuoteBegin-coil+Sep 20 2004, 03:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 20 2004, 03:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know, the *much* more significant news is that Lucas is messing with the Screen Actor's Guild. I say kudos to Oldman for bowing out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> As usual coil and his excellent finishing school have distilled the point down to something that is both true and important
Man, to bad they didn't have some kickarse sithlord girl like Eliza Dushku with tight spandex and tatoos on her face slicing away. hawt. /hands over 13 dollars.
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I admit, having seen the episode with General Grevious in, he does kick copious amounts of ****. But.... <i>General Grevious</i>. Come on. You may as well call him Major Payne or Commander Crush or something.
-it's important for actors to have an Actors' Guild since the MAJORITY of them get paid a pittance. and in order to make something close to a living wage they need to stick together (i.e. semi-unionize).
-many of Lucas' creations are named by his children. so blame them, not him, for the silly not-as-cool-as-you'd-like-it-to-be names.
-it's important for actors to have an Actors' Guild since the MAJORITY of them get paid a pittance. and in order to make something close to a living wage they need to stick together (i.e. semi-unionize). ...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I was waiting for that point. I was hoping someone brought that up. It really is a shame that some people are so willing to sacrifice their self respect just to get on TV/screen that they undercut the professional actors.
Personally I think Oldman bowed out because he realized that he had just signed up to work for Lucas and play the voice for a CG character.
Because we know how well that worked in the past <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <img src='http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Land/8346/ahmedbest.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
People can't stand change. If the movie was made as it is now, no one would be complaining. Lucas makes a few general improvements, and the whole world whines about it.
I just watched A new hope for the second time (I'd forgotten everything from my first viewing a long time ago), and I loved it. What arse kickzor. I managed to enjoy the movie, despite Lucas changing it. If you're refusing to buy the DVDs because of a few minor changes, your loss. Like lucas said, you can get the old ones on tape and LD, if you'd like.
I used to browse a fan fic board, (don't ask me why, it's one of my many regrets), and I've seen MUCH worse names then Skywalker. Personally, I love the name Skywalker, it's simple and has a lot of symbolic meaning in it. As for alien names, it's nigh impossible to come up with anything that would sound "evil," because we've got nothing to associate it with. Take for example "Si Ren," which means dead man in chinese. The most westerners got out of it would be siren, a completely wrong association.
<!--QuoteBegin-kida+Sep 21 2004, 11:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kida @ Sep 21 2004, 11:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Man, to bad they didn't have some kickarse sithlord girl like Eliza Dushku with tight spandex and tatoos on her face slicing away. hawt. /hands over 13 dollars. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Uhm. Damnit >_<, why can't you be in the SW writing team.
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 21 2004, 07:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 21 2004, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The second time? As in, you've only seen A New Hope TWICE??? You're not even qualified to gripe about any changes then. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh, yeah. If you just watched it for the second time, you're probably not in a state to remember the first time.
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 21 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 21 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The second time? As in, you've only seen A New Hope TWICE??? You're not even qualified to gripe about any changes then. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm sorry I'm not so obssessed with the series that I freak over a few trivial changes to a movie. Baka.
I didn't even like the original Star Wars because it's not sci-fi. Obviously, these new ones suck too. Only they suck even more because they don't have Darth Vader.
The only good Mel Blanc movie is Robin Hood: Men in Tight. Spaceball sucks beyond my expectation.
PS: Let me guess this straight. Obiwan died in old age, his spirit has the appearance of an old man. Yoda died in old age, his spirit has the appearance of an old... thing. Anakin died in old age, and now (new edition) his spirit is that of a snobbish kid?
<!--QuoteBegin-V-MAN+Sep 21 2004, 06:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Sep 21 2004, 06:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You dumbarses make me laugh bitching about lucas ruining star wars likes it friggen belongs to you an he has no righ to tinker with it....
The guy created it FFS it's his baby to do with as he pleases tbh there's nowt wrong with the new ones that have come out they could never hope to capture the magic of the original trilogy cos it had already been done but please for the love of god stop bitching like a bunch of lame arse cry babies who have had their lolly pop stolen just because YOU don't like the sound of something that's gonna be in the new film.
I mean complaining about the names Dooku and General Grievious these 2 don't sound any more cheesy that Darth Vader tbh. What sort of names would you like the characters to have then?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->? hmmmm...... John Smith? Casey Ryback? Bruce Wayne? Vinnie Jones?
btw Gary Oldman's best film was "The Firm"
edit not the crud one with tom cruise <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So... I can go out, get married, have a baby, and then hack it apart with rusty spoons because its mine?
<!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 21 2004, 07:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 21 2004, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 21 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 21 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The second time? As in, you've only seen A New Hope TWICE??? You're not even qualified to gripe about any changes then. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm sorry I'm not so obssessed with the series that I freak over a few trivial changes to a movie. Baka. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The gripes aren't about trivial changes. Some of the disputes were about changes that drastically altered the characters.
May I also point out that name calling in any other language is still namecalling and doesn't help your arguement.
<b>Breaking news. </b> There was a Sci-fi convention in Australia with the LotR team. Among those there were Sean Astin (Samwise) and John Rhys-Davis (Gimli, Treebeard).
Now here's the clincher. When someone asked whether Rhys-Davis is going to do any more voiceovers ala Treeboard, here was his response:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"I'm doing some next month, in fact. Let's say the working conditions are ...Grevious."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=18421' target='_blank'>Source</a>
<!--QuoteBegin-Dr.Suredeath+Sep 21 2004, 10:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr.Suredeath @ Sep 21 2004, 10:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only good Mel Blanc movie is Robin Hood: Men in Tight. Spaceball sucks beyond my expectation.
PS: Let me guess this straight. Obiwan died in old age, his spirit has the appearance of an old man. Yoda died in old age, his spirit has the appearance of an old... thing. Anakin died in old age, and now (new edition) his spirit is that of a snobbish kid?
What the hell?!? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wrong! Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. Obi-Wan even says it. It's in his conversation with Luke at Obi-Wan's hutt.
gg watch the movies <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Sep 21 2004, 09:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Sep 21 2004, 09:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wrong! Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I...I think he meant that figuratively. Darth Vader "killed" Anakin. Because the Darth side of Anakin's personality overpowered the Anakin side. And in the end,
( I shouldnt have to mark this, but) <span style='font-family:Optima'><span style='font-size:30pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS</span></span></span>
when Anakin comes back to help Luke fight the Emperor (the Anakin side wins out over the Darth side), it's in the old Anakin's body. He died in the body of an old man. He wasn't dead earlier, he was just...not in control. At least so I think.
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But, those characters weren't meant to be intimidating. They were the heroes. They can have silly names.
Now, look at the villains. Darth Vader. Just say it. It doesn't sound like someone you want to meet. And Emperor Palpatine sounds almost equally impressive.
Then you have Count Dooku. Say it out loud. Now try and look me in the eye and say it has the same effect as "Darth Vader".
Come up with the best character names for the next Star Wars with equally dubious alliteration and i will give you a gold star for the wall chart. Go forth and make bad jokes worse.
EDIT: and a gmail invite
Every Star Wars film was made outside of the Screen Actors Guild.
Perhaps the better question is: Why do millionaires need a union?
Original Star Wars:
Organa
Hutt
Fett
Vader
Palpatine
Kenobi
Solo
Skywalker (this is about the worst it got, and even then, its not too bad)
New Star Wars:
Dooku
Binks
Maul
Grievious
WHERE WILL THE SUCKING STOP, LUCAS?!
I swear, if this new movie isn't half-way decent, we're forming a mob. Who's with me?! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Anyone else think it is sexually suggestive?
If I put it in the context:
I will Fett your Kenobi Palpatine. Make your Organa feel like Skywalker. Solo your Maul can Vader my Hutt. Watch out for the Grievious Dooku.
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Ignore that kiddies.
The guy created it FFS it's his baby to do with as he pleases tbh there's nowt wrong with the new ones that have come out they could never hope to capture the magic of the original trilogy cos it had already been done but please for the love of god stop bitching like a bunch of lame arse cry babies who have had their lolly pop stolen just because YOU don't like the sound of something that's gonna be in the new film.
I mean complaining about the names Dooku and General Grievious these 2 don't sound any more cheesy that Darth Vader tbh. What sort of names would you like the characters to have then?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->? hmmmm...... John Smith? Casey Ryback? Bruce Wayne? Vinnie Jones?
btw Gary Oldman's best film was "The Firm"
edit not the crud one with tom cruise
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Definitely THE James Gordon
The guy created it FFS it's his baby to do with as he pleases tbh there's nowt wrong with the new ones that have come out they could never hope to capture the magic of the original trilogy cos it had already been done but please for the love of god stop bitching like a bunch of lame arse cry babies who have had their lolly pop stolen just because YOU don't like the sound of something that's gonna be in the new film.
I mean complaining about the names Dooku and General Grievious these 2 don't sound any more cheesy that Darth Vader tbh. What sort of names would you like the characters to have then?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->? hmmmm...... John Smith? Casey Ryback? Bruce Wayne? Vinnie Jones?
btw Gary Oldman's best film was "The Firm"
edit not the crud one with tom cruise <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think up one of my cruel, witty, and overall brilliant comments for this post, but I think it alone has more comedic value than I can conjure.
The guy created it FFS it's his baby to do with as he pleases tbh there's nowt wrong with the new ones that have come out they could never hope to capture the magic of the original trilogy cos it had already been done but please for the love of god stop bitching like a bunch of lame arse cry babies who have had their lolly pop stolen just because YOU don't like the sound of something that's gonna be in the new film.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> Angst +1, anyone?
I'm afraid criticism, both constructive and otherwise is a fact of human nature, and always has been. There's very little you can do about it. However, once you've created something with a huge fan base, tinkering with it even slightly will always bring recriminations. Outright rewriting (which is what's happened) is bound to get these sorts of responses.
As for them being 'his'. Well, only partially, as he didn't direct either Return of the Jedi or Empire Strikes Back, both of which are generally considered to the 'best' of the Star Wars films. Coincidence? I think not. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
- Shockwave
Oldman rocks... if anything it's hard to remember him outside of Leon. Ok so he did the firm and a ton of other stuff but LEON!!!
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Leon...</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
BOW FOR NOT REMEMBERING "THE FIFTH ELEMENT"! ... ok he was sooo good in Leon. a pill-eating-crocked-cop
As usual coil and his excellent finishing school have distilled the point down to something that is both true and important
Boba?!
-it's important for actors to have an Actors' Guild since the MAJORITY of them get paid a pittance. and in order to make something close to a living wage they need to stick together (i.e. semi-unionize).
-many of Lucas' creations are named by his children. so blame them, not him, for the silly not-as-cool-as-you'd-like-it-to-be names.
-it's important for actors to have an Actors' Guild since the MAJORITY of them get paid a pittance. and in order to make something close to a living wage they need to stick together (i.e. semi-unionize).
...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was waiting for that point. I was hoping someone brought that up. It really is a shame that some people are so willing to sacrifice their self respect just to get on TV/screen that they undercut the professional actors.
Personally I think Oldman bowed out because he realized that he had just signed up to work for Lucas and play the voice for a CG character.
Because we know how well that worked in the past <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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I just watched A new hope for the second time (I'd forgotten everything from my first viewing a long time ago), and I loved it. What arse kickzor. I managed to enjoy the movie, despite Lucas changing it. If you're refusing to buy the DVDs because of a few minor changes, your loss. Like lucas said, you can get the old ones on tape and LD, if you'd like.
I used to browse a fan fic board, (don't ask me why, it's one of my many regrets), and I've seen MUCH worse names then Skywalker. Personally, I love the name Skywalker, it's simple and has a lot of symbolic meaning in it. As for alien names, it's nigh impossible to come up with anything that would sound "evil," because we've got nothing to associate it with. Take for example "Si Ren," which means dead man in chinese. The most westerners got out of it would be siren, a completely wrong association.
However... Grevious? WTH?!?!
Uhm. Damnit >_<, why can't you be in the SW writing team.
Heh, yeah. If you just watched it for the second time, you're probably not in a state to remember the first time.
I'm sorry I'm not so obssessed with the series that I freak over a few trivial changes to a movie. Baka.
Want a good movie? Spaceballs.
PS: Let me guess this straight. Obiwan died in old age, his spirit has the appearance of an old man. Yoda died in old age, his spirit has the appearance of an old... thing. Anakin died in old age, and now (new edition) his spirit is that of a snobbish kid?
What the hell?!?
The guy created it FFS it's his baby to do with as he pleases tbh there's nowt wrong with the new ones that have come out they could never hope to capture the magic of the original trilogy cos it had already been done but please for the love of god stop bitching like a bunch of lame arse cry babies who have had their lolly pop stolen just because YOU don't like the sound of something that's gonna be in the new film.
I mean complaining about the names Dooku and General Grievious these 2 don't sound any more cheesy that Darth Vader tbh. What sort of names would you like the characters to have then?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->? hmmmm...... John Smith? Casey Ryback? Bruce Wayne? Vinnie Jones?
btw Gary Oldman's best film was "The Firm"
edit not the crud one with tom cruise <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So... I can go out, get married, have a baby, and then hack it apart with rusty spoons because its mine?
I'm sorry I'm not so obssessed with the series that I freak over a few trivial changes to a movie. Baka. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The gripes aren't about trivial changes. Some of the disputes were about changes that drastically altered the characters.
May I also point out that name calling in any other language is still namecalling and doesn't help your arguement.
There was a Sci-fi convention in Australia with the LotR team. Among those there were Sean Astin (Samwise) and John Rhys-Davis (Gimli, Treebeard).
Now here's the clincher. When someone asked whether Rhys-Davis is going to do any more voiceovers ala Treeboard, here was his response:
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<a href='http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=18421' target='_blank'>Source</a>
Interesting.....
PS: Let me guess this straight. Obiwan died in old age, his spirit has the appearance of an old man. Yoda died in old age, his spirit has the appearance of an old... thing. Anakin died in old age, and now (new edition) his spirit is that of a snobbish kid?
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Wrong! Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. Obi-Wan even says it. It's in his conversation with Luke at Obi-Wan's hutt.
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Wrong! Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I...I think he meant that figuratively. Darth Vader "killed" Anakin. Because the Darth side of Anakin's personality overpowered the Anakin side. And in the end,
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when Anakin comes back to help Luke fight the Emperor (the Anakin side wins out over the Darth side), it's in the old Anakin's body. He died in the body of an old man. He wasn't dead earlier, he was just...not in control. At least so I think.