Problem with doors

Jedisar

Okay, I read all the tutorials, but I still can't make a door. Sure, I can make a doorWAY, but I can't find a way to place the door ENTITY..so..my map is a buncha rooms and hallways with...no doors...um...help?

CyonPro

Did you read the Natural Selection mapping tutorial? Because that won't tell you anything about the basics, like making doors.

Basically, just make a brush that is in the shape of the door itself (usually the same dimensions as the doorway, and a reasonable thickness), then position it inside the doorway. Next, with the door selected, do a left click (or find it in the menus) and select "Tie to entity". A window will come up with a lot of different options for what kind of entity you want it to be. Look for Func_door and select that, then change all of the settings to your liking. This is how to make a very basic sliding door.

P.S. For the "lip" setting, this tells how many units the door will stick out of the wall when it's open. I usually use something like 4.

Moleculor

And make sure you go to www.valve-erc.com for your basic mapping questions. This forum is for Natural Selection related questions about mapping.

Shuvit_Viper

also countermap.counter-strike.net tutorial section is cool for basic/need mapping tricks

pielemuis

WC once came with a tutor, but they left it out in the new version

CyonPro

...and the WC help file is as useful to me as a Happy Meal is to a man at the bottom of a well.

Muu

If I was at the bottom of a well I would want a happy meal.

Moleculor

You could always drop the happy meal to him. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

Jedisar

I hate doors. <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->


Nuke the doors, Club the seals!

Kassinger

Yeah, let's make an NS map without doors, they are too hard to make!

While we're at it, why not skip the rest of the hard stuff, and just make one BIG room with a hive and a marine base in it.
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Jedisar

okay!

CyonPro

Oh yeah baby.

Actually i've heard from many of the more prestigious mappers (yes I suck alot) that minimizing the usage of doors is better for the game flow. If the placement of a door adds tension, cinematic value, strategy, or possibilities for welding, it should be added. But don't just put doors in every doorway cuz ya can.

Kassinger

So can I try that map when you're finished?
/me huggles Jedisar | /say w00t!

Kassinger

I like doors that start to open before you reach it, so they are always open when you need them to be. (I'm thinking about doors that 'slide'

Kassinger

/me moves trigger_multiple far away from door.

CyonPro

I'm not sure If I'm going to use many trigger_presences for my normal doors....it appears there are more ways to foul up a door using this system (in-game that is) than a regular door with trigger_multiple.

Jedisar

It says it's too big to post. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->

CyonPro

You guys could always get on the NS IRC channel and send it using DCC.

Jedisar

Comprox doesn't like me talking about maps in there. I usually ask people how they did something they talk about and comprox doesn't like that.

CyonPro

Well there's e-mail....how big is the file?

If you can manage to email it to me, I can put it in my NS web folder where anyone can grab it from.

Kassinger

Don't worry, I don't need to d/l the file anway, if this is what this is about! <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->

CyonPro

This whole "put everything in a single huge room" thing reminds me somewhat of awp_map (*shivers in fear*)....

Jedisar

Oh! Good Idea! I'd install a fully-auto AWP if I knew how! Make it so it fires 2,000 rounds per second, each round doing 200 damage!

CyonPro

Hmmmmm, sounds like a Vulcan Cannon... <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

Kassinger

Ahh, I think the awp map is fun to playz0rz! <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

But if you're gonna make that 'Vulcan' cannon you bettah learn C++ (and modeling) <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

Jedisar

Bah, I have no Skillz