Direct X

God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
edited September 2004 in NS General Discussion
I just put direct x 9.0c yesterday and played like a total nub. Hit regestering was pathetic...I had to miss on purpose to achive anything.

Maybe it's more settings I got to take care of. I use net graph and don't seem to have too much packet lost, well I think I do, I'm not really sure how to set everything.

I'll put my config and autoexec maybe you guys see something wrong in it...
I really don't know what to do, I almost cried yesterday thinking to myself I should never touch the ns scene again. But the game's too good!

Config.cfg

unbindall
bind "TAB" "+showscores"
bind "ENTER" "messagemode"
bind "ESCAPE" "cancelselect"
bind "SPACE" "+hop"
bind "'" "+moveup"
bind "+" "sizeup"
bind "," "impulse 1"
bind "-" "sizedown"
bind "." "invprev"
bind "/" "impulse 125"
bind "0" "slot10"
bind "1" "slot1"
bind "2" "slot2"
bind "3" "slot3"
bind "4" "slot4"
bind "5" "slot5"
bind "6" "slot6"
bind "7" "slot7"
bind "8" "slot8"
bind "9" "slot9"
bind ";" "+mlook"
bind "=" "sizeup"
bind "[" "+left"
bind "]" "+right"
bind "`" "toggleconsole"
bind "a" "+moveleft"
bind "b" "+voicerecord"
bind "c" "+showmap"
bind "d" "+moveright"
bind "e" "+use"
bind "f" "impulse 3"
bind "g" "impulse 100"
bind "h" "jumpswitch"
bind "i" "+pist"
bind "j" "+hop"
bind "k" "+run"
bind "l" "impulse 105"
bind "m" "impulse 105"
bind "n" "stopsound"
bind "o" "pistol"
bind "q" "+pist"
bind "r" "+reload"
bind "s" "+back"
bind "t" "specialrun"
bind "u" "messagemode"
bind "v" "+duckjump"
bind "w" "+forward"
bind "x" "impulse 10"
bind "y" "messagemode2"
bind "z" "impulse 91"
bind "~" "toggleconsole"
bind "UPARROW" "impulse 94"
bind "DOWNARROW" "impulse 93"
bind "LEFTARROW" "impulse 90"
bind "RIGHTARROW" "impulse 92"
bind "ALT" "+hop"
bind "CTRL" "+run"
bind "SHIFT" "+duck"
bind "F1" "jointeamone"
bind "F2" "jointeamtwo"
bind "F4" "readyroom"
bind "F5" "snapshot"
bind "F6" "cl_updaterate 0"
bind "F7" "cl_updaterate 10"
bind "F8" "cl_updaterate 15"
bind "F9" "cl_updaterate 20"
bind "F10" "cl_updaterate 30"
bind "INS" "impulse 116"
bind "DEL" "impulse 113"
bind "PGDN" "impulse 115"
bind "PGUP" "impulse 95"
bind "HOME" "impulse 117"
bind "END" "impulse 114"
bind "KP_HOME" "impulse 101"
bind "KP_UPARROW" "impulse 109"
bind "KP_PGUP" "impulse 111"
bind "KP_LEFTARROW" "impulse 103"
bind "KP_5" "impulse 108"
bind "KP_RIGHTARROW" "impulse 112"
bind "KP_END" "impulse 102"
bind "KP_DOWNARROW" "impulse 107"
bind "KP_PGDN" "impulse 110"
bind "MWHEELDOWN" "+qslash"
bind "MOUSE1" "+attack"
bind "MOUSE2" "lastinv"
bind "MOUSE3" "+popupmenu"
bind "PAUSE" "pause"
_snd_mixahead "0.1"
ati_npatch "0"
ati_subdiv "0"
bgmvolume "0.000000"
bottomcolor "6"
brightness "99999"
cl_allowdownload "1"
cl_allowupload "0"
cl_autohelp "0"
cl_buildmessages "1"
cl_centerentityid "0"
cl_cmdbackup "2"
cl_cmdrate "15"
cl_cmhotkeys "qwerasdfzxcv"
cl_dlmax "128"
cl_download_ingame "0"
cl_dynamiclights "1"
cl_forcedefaultfov "0"
cl_highdetail "1"
cl_himodels "1"
cl_idealpitchscale "0.8"
cl_lc "1"
cl_logocolor "#Valve_Blue"
cl_logofile "camp1"
cl_lw "1"
cl_musicdelay "90.000000"
cl_musicdirectory ""
cl_musicenabled "0"
cl_musicvolume "0.000000"
cl_particleinfo "0"
cl_quickselecttime "0"
cl_timeout "300"
cl_updaterate "10"
cl_vsmoothing "0.05"
con_color "255 180 30"
console "1"
crosshair "1.000000"
fps_max "200"
fps_modem "0.0"
gamma "3"
gl_dither "1"
gl_flipmatrix "0"
gl_fog "0"
gl_monolights "0"
gl_overbright "0"
gl_polyoffset "0.1"
hisound "1"
hpk_maxsize "4"
hud_capturemouse "1"
hud_centerid "1"
hud_classautokill "0"
hud_draw "1"
hud_fastswitch "1"
hud_takesshots "0"
joystick "0"
lookspring "0.000000"
lookstrafe "0.000000"
m_filter "0"
m_forward "1"
m_pitch "-0.022000"
m_side "0.8"
m_yaw "0.022"
model "heavy"
MP3FadeTime "0.0"
MP3Volume "0"
mp_decals "0"
name "God Killer*Qc"
net_graph "3"
net_graphpos "1"
net_scale "5
"
r_bmodelhighfrac "5.0"
r_detailtextures "1"
s_a3d "0.0"
s_automax_distance "30.0"
s_automin_distance "2.0"
s_bloat "2.0"
s_distance "60"
s_doppler "0.0"
s_eax "0.0"
s_leafnum "0"
s_max_distance "1000.0"
s_min_distance "8.0"
s_numpolys "200"
s_polykeep "1000000000"
s_polysize "10000000"
s_refdelay "4"
s_refgain "0.4"
s_rolloff "1.0"
s_verbwet "0.25"
sensitivity "5.750000"
skin ""
suitvolume "0.000000"
sv_aim "0"
sv_voiceenable "1"
team ""
topcolor "0"
viewsize "110"
voice_enable "1"
voice_forcemicrecord "1.000000"
voice_modenable "1"
voice_scale "1"
volume "2"
+mlook
+jlook
exec userconfig.cfg


Userconfig

cl_dynamiccrosshair "1"
cl_idealpitchscale "0.8"
cl_lc "1"
cl_lw "1"
cl_minmodels "1"
cl_vsmoothing "0.05"
con_color "255 180 30"
ex_interp "0"
fastsprites "1"
gl_dither "1"
gl_flipmatrix "0"
gl_monolights "0"
gl_overbright "0"
gl_polyoffset "0.1"
GL_TEXTUREMODE "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR"
hpk_maxsize "4"
hud_capturemouse "1"
hud_deathnotice_time "12"
hud_draw "1"
hud_saytext_internal "1"
hud_saytext_time "12"
m_filter "0"
m_forward "1"
net_graphpos "1"
net_scale "5
r_bmodelhighfrac "5.0"
r_detailtextures "1"
s_a3d "0.0"
s_automax_distance "30.0"
s_automin_distance "2.0"
s_bloat "2.0"
s_distance "60"
s_doppler "0.0"
s_eax "0.0"
s_leafnum "0"
s_max_distance "1000.0"
s_min_distance "8.0"
s_numpolys "200"
s_polykeep "1000000000"
s_polysize "10000000"
s_refdelay "4"
s_refgain "0.4"
s_rolloff "1.0"
s_verbwet "0.25"
tracerred "1"
r_shadows "1"
tracergreen "1"
tracerblue "0"
traceralpha "150"
tracerlength "4"
traceroffset "-90" //lower the # to make tracers bigger or higher to make tracers smaller
tracerspeed "3000"

I play in 1280x1024 so my max fps is 75.

Maybe its ex_interp or something like that, I'm not sure what it is.

But maybe I should go back to direct X 9.0a or 8.0

That's a screenshot of yersterday, I have cel shaded mods...I know it's not why it bugs so much.
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  • semipsychoticsemipsychotic Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18061Members
    edited September 2004
    Your cl_cmdrate and cl_updaterate are rather low. Try 30 on both for starters; that's what is in my config and works well for me. Netcode experts: feel free to yell at me if 30 is a bad number. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    If you think that DirectX is being a pain, then go to "run" in the start menu and then type "dxdiag", hit enter, save the info as a .txt file (there's a button for that), and then attach it to your next post. I won't even pretend to know where to look in that huge volume of info, but I'm sure somebody around here does.

    If anybody else has 9.0c, then now would be the time to speak up and compare system data. Just out of my own curiosity, how long ago did that come out of testing?
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    where do you get 9.0c?
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  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    Apparently ex_interp 0.1 is a good value. I haven't a clue whether or not it is however.
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    You're running HL/NS in OpenGL mode right?
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  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    edited September 2004
    There I put my dxdiag...I guess I can test rate values.

    I got direct x from typing directx 9.0c in google.

    I'll seach the forums etc for ex_interp...

    edit/yeah in open gl, and I just found 3 virus in my pc, maybe a cause
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  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    If youre running in OpenGL then switching to a newer directx version shouldnt affect the performance.
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    As posted above. OpenGL Half-Life... *might* use DirectSound, but I don't even recall. Beyond that, the virii would be the more likely culprit.

    And as for getting the virii... punching something into Google, downloading it from a non-trusted site and immediately running it is boneheaded.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
    your rates are wayyyyy to low no wonder your hitting nothing
    if your on 512k +
    your rates should be at lest 15000/60/60 or higher
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  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    edited September 2004
    I found direct x on microsoft.com, I guess I can usually trust them. I only put 9.0c because I wanted to try star wars battlefront and asked for it.

    The game never worked...too bad.

    Hey, I just say on a post that detail textures don't work on b5 because of exploits, is this true?

    Maybe should change userconfig...
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->  your rates are wayyyyy to low no wonder your hitting nothing
    if your on 512k +
    your rates should be at lest 15000/60/60 or higher<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    the 60 is cl_cmdrate "15" and cl_updaterate "15" ?

    should'nt the net graph show no "x" ms on top right? Is'nt that the way to set?
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  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    Hey I just got 8-0 with 60\60 maybe thats the trick, mosre testing...
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  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
    Maybe it depends on who you play against.
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  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-moomin.+Sep 30 2004, 09:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moomin. @ Sep 30 2004, 09:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe it depends on who you play against. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh, yeah that would explain it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
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  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A9B6820-BFBB-4799-9908-D418CDEAC197&displaylang=en' target='_blank'>Directx 9.0c</a>[Microsoft.com]

    And if you are using openGL there should be no effect on your game play in NS. Keep your cl_updaterate over 60 too
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  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    Well it's ok now I guess, I still have to miss on purpose to hit depending on my opponent. Maybe its like that for everyone.

    I'll keap my cl_updaterate higher but my cl_updaterate I have to leave it on 15 or else I get a ms count on my net graph, I think thats what I'm supposed to do.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->moomin.  Posted on Sep 30 2004, 03:53 PM
      Maybe it depends on who you play against.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah it does depend, is it me or some ppl are harder to hit than others, like if they had a smaller hit box. Moving or not moving.

    Even I sometimes seem harder to hit, like ppl will say : wow, your bs yada yada.
    Then I get like 20:1 kill ratio and next game I get like 1:2 ratio and feel like I'm "bigger".

    Shouldn't rates be server side and ajusted to the client automaticly?
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