Indymedia Servers Seized

Stakhanov

<div class="IPBDescription">someone try to justify that ?</div> This kind of news isn't going to make the headlines in mainsteam media for sure , so I thought it was my duty to post it.

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The FBI issued an order to Rackspace in the US (<a href='http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml' target='_blank'>Indymedia</a>'s provider with offices in the US and London) to physically remove one of our servers. The order was so short term that Rackspace had to give away our hard drives in the UK.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Evidence is beginning to mount that the authorities of at least four countries (Switzerland, Italy, U.K. and U.S.A.) are involved in last week's seizure of two of Indymedia's servers that brought down more than 20 of the Indymedia network's web sites and several internet radio streams. Indymedia has yet to receive any official statement or information about what the order entailed or why it was issued.

An FBI spokesperson, Joe Parris, confirmed to Agence France-Presse that the FBI issued a subpoena to the provider who hosted the Indymedia servers in the U.K., but that it was "on behalf of a third country." Daniel Zapelli, senior federal prosecutor for Geneva (Switzerland), confirmed that he has opened a criminal investigation into Indymedia coverage of the 2003 G8 Summit in Evian. Zapelli will provide details of that investigation at a press conference on Tuesday.

Federal prosecutor of Bologna (Italy) Marina Plazzi stated that she is investigating Italy Indymedia because it may "support terrorism." Plazzi says she will provide more information on Thursday, October 14th.

Meanwhile international journalist associations have come forward in support of Indymedia. "We have witnessed an intolerable and intrusive international police operation against a network specialising in independent journalism," said Aidan White IFJ General Secretary. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Seems like a worldwide application of the Patriot Act. Any country working with the US in the "war on terrorism" can request an order to make any US based provider/host to shut their servers down , no matter where they are , and remain silent about it.

Soon , the republicans will have nothing to complain about - there will be no more "liberal media bias" when sources disagreeing with the president are kept silent for "supporting terrorism"...

Handman

well I'll wait till thurseday october 14th before I cast judgement. There could be a perfectly good explaination for what was done.

MrRadicalEd

sounds like another case of "E-Activism" to me

lolfighter

Patriot Act? I've had a run-in with that... kinda.

This summer I attended a steam fair in Denmark. That's a show where various people show off their historical or replica steam engines. Yes, those old thingies that run on coal fires, heating a kettle full o' water that produces steam (you DO understand that I'm not talking about software, yes?), which in turn powers an engine. Lots of machines, large and small. Some so tiny that they could fit on a palm, others so huge that they needed big ships around them for moving around (okay, maybe the ship needed the engine for moving, whatever). Either way, said steam fair ran into problems because the harbour at which it lay (very convenient for the ships. VERY convenient.) had no anti-terror measures. Huh. Anti terror-measures in a snotty 20k harbour town in Denmark? To protect the United States from somebody hijacking an old steamer, sailing it accross the atlantic and ramming it into the statue of liberty? Let's just forget that the thing can't sail more than twelve knots. It'd take DAYS to cross the atlantic, and could easily be sunk by ship, air, or cruise-missile attack. Conveniently forget that it'd run out of coal halfway across, too, because the coal bunkers are not big enough for such a long journey. Oh, but the world-wide network of terrorist resupply ships would deliver a shipment of coal to it halfway across, I forgot. Hello idiotic legislature, goodbye common sense. Why THINK when we can have stiff, inflexible laws instead?

Thank God somebody figured out that veteran ships are exempt from the anti-terror laws (until somebody sails on old mississippi steamer into the statue of liberty, that is). Why did we even have to mess around with this? This isn't the states.

TheWizard

IndyMedia had content that exposed an undercover police operation in another country. (Italy or Switzerland IIRC)

This has nothing to do with the patriot act and more to do with some website being incredibly stupid and posting such information. Wait until October 14th and you will get the full story.

Iron_Maiden

<!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Oct 12 2004, 06:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Oct 12 2004, 06:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This summer I attended a steam fair in Denmark. That's a show where various people show off their historical or replica steam engines. Yes, those old thingies that run on coal fires, heating a kettle full o' water that produces steam (you DO understand that I'm not talking about software, yes?), which in turn powers an engine. Lots of machines, large and small. Some so tiny that they could fit on a palm, others so huge that they needed big ships around them for moving around (okay, maybe the ship needed the engine for moving, whatever). Either way, said steam fair ran into problems because the harbour at which it lay (very convenient for the ships. VERY convenient.) had no anti-terror measures. Huh. Anti terror-measures in a snotty 20k harbour town in Denmark? To protect the United States from somebody hijacking an old steamer, sailing it accross the atlantic and ramming it into the statue of liberty? Let's just forget that the thing can't sail more than twelve knots. It'd take DAYS to cross the atlantic, and could easily be sunk by ship, air, or cruise-missile attack. Conveniently forget that it'd run out of coal halfway across, too, because the coal bunkers are not big enough for such a long journey. Oh, but the world-wide network of terrorist resupply ships would deliver a shipment of coal to it halfway across, I forgot. Hello idiotic legislature, goodbye common sense. Why THINK when we can have stiff, inflexible laws instead?

Thank God somebody figured out that veteran ships are exempt from the anti-terror laws (until somebody sails on old mississippi steamer into the statue of liberty, that is). Why did we even have to mess around with this? This isn't the states. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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