Why You Have To Believe Halo 2 Will Be The Amazing

ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet! Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
edited October 2004 in Off-Topic
you have to think about this logically:

<b>good things that are plain to see:</b>
1. the initial levels are all well-designed and fun
2. the control scheme (movement, turn acceleration, target leading) is perfectly engineered for the console (and xbox controller). word from beta testers is that they've hardly changed that part at all.. because, admittedly, it's perfect as-is.
3. the covenant are f*ing badass because they're supposed to be the focus of the game.

<b>bad things that resulted from Bungie being slapped in the face with a constricting deadline</b>
1. the flood, for the most part, are uninteresting and annoying (doesn't your intuition tell you that they're sort of like <b>filler material</b>?)
2. the later levels are all repetetive: they even reuse 1 or 2 actual levels
3. the flamethrower was never included
4. you can't pilot the covenant tanks
5. you can't use the fuel rod cannon (the glowey green grenade launcher) in the original version

the game was booted from PC to XBOX and BGates made them pump the game out a few months early. it's not gonna happen this time. because of their success with the first one and by proving that they could obviously have built a more complete game, given more time, Bungie was given just about 100% control over their deadlines and content. <b>this game is going to be stellar.</b>

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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    So website with pictures and description?

    On a side note, if thats a serious sig image removal, you forgot the red Bob <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thursday-+Oct 14 2004, 08:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 14 2004, 08:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So website with pictures and description?

    On a side note, if thats a serious sig image removal, you forgot the red Bob <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What the **** are you on about?

    Zig, I enjoyed the first few missions of Halo 2. Hopefully Halo 2 will be more like them then the later missions,
  • docchimpydocchimpy Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18266Members
    I SEVERELY doubt that ol' Bill has anything to do with small decisions like Halo's release. (He's too busy conquering the world.)
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    I never understood the hype around halo 1. The only way I could see it making sense was from the standpoint of someone trapped in a world without PCs and forced to play only console games. I guess it would be pretty good then. And similarly I don't understand the hype about halo 2. Make it look as good as you want, but it's still running on outdated hardware and with a control scheme that is basically an updated version of controls for 2-d platformer games from 1985.

    Thanks, but I'll take my top of the line games with full and accurate 3-d responsiveness from the mouse and as many buttons as I want to bind on the keyboard. You can have your games programmed down to yesterday's hardware and your super mario brothers controller. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    (And I usually don't make blaring red sig removals except in the case of repeat offenders. And as you notice, it served it's purpose, Zig's already fixed it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <b><i><u>ALL BOW TO THE WISDOM OF ZIG!</u></i></b>

    Once you've finnished groveling you may return to your normal, boring lives.
  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    as i stated in some other Halo2 thread, i will only be interested if they make a PC version (and not just some crappy halfdone port of the console version)
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 14 2004, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 14 2004, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> as i stated in some other Halo2 thread, i will only be interested if they make a PC version (and not just some crappy halfdone port of the console version) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Amen my most respected brother-of-console-bashing. I was amazed that they managed to make the PC port of halo feel <i>just like</i> I was using an innacurate, unresponsive analog stick, instead of a speedy, precise mouse. That must have taken some serious programming skill!
  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 14 2004, 02:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 14 2004, 02:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO_Phyte+Oct 14 2004, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO_Phyte @ Oct 14 2004, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> as i stated in some other Halo2 thread, i will only be interested if they make a PC version (and not just some crappy halfdone port of the console version) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Amen my most respected brother-of-console-bashing. I was amazed that they managed to make the PC port of halo feel <i>just like</i> I was using an innacurate, unresponsive analog stick, instead of a speedy, precise mouse. That must have taken some serious programming skill! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i never said i was console-bashing
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    AND I CALLED YOU MY BROTHER!

    Ok fine, you didn't say you were. I'll just go bash the consoles by myself then. And I brought two bats along and everything. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 14 2004, 02:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 14 2004, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> AND I CALLED YOU MY BROTHER!

    Ok fine, you didn't say you were. I'll just go bash the consoles by myself then. And I brought two bats along and everything. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well, if youve gone through that much effort, i guess i can help....



    /me takes a bat


    OMG CONS0L3S AER TEH SUXXX!!!!!!1111111!1211one
  • 999Hydralisk999Hydralisk Join Date: 2004-04-13 Member: 27907Members
    Yeah I hate those damn joysticks on the PHAT XBox controller! Anywayts Bob you can always have a brother from another mother! I will not buy halo2 unless its on PC and not just ported.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Oct 14 2004, 02:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Oct 14 2004, 02:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the game was booted from PC to XBOX <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    actually it was booted from Mac to XBox. Bungie was primarily a Mac developer until they died.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    edited October 2004
    Well it's going to have to be <i>really</i> good to convince me. Numbers of times better than it's predecessor which I thought was lukewarm at best. Fun with a bunch of friends, though.

    <b>Edit:</b> Whoopsie.
  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 14 2004, 12:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 14 2004, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never understood the hype around halo 1. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's a lot easier to transport 2 X-Boxes than it is to transport 8 computers for small party gaming goodness.

    Not that I'm particularly much of a fan of Halo, but it doesn't suck. Note: I've never played Halo SP, so yeah..
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited October 2004
    Why should I like the sequel when I wasn't too fond of the original in the first place? Only thing I really liked was screwing about in the vehicles (and some of the design elements) <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    /me walks in...

    i dont belong here... ive never played halo in my life.... ive never even watched anyone play halo.... unless you count commercials...

    /me walks out
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Seph Kimara+Oct 14 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Seph Kimara @ Oct 14 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (and some of the design elements) <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah I loved the extreme skill that was shown. Copying and pasting is hard work you know!
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Oct 14 2004, 11:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Oct 14 2004, 11:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Seph Kimara+Oct 14 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Seph Kimara @ Oct 14 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (and some of the design elements) <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah I loved the extreme skill that was shown. Copying and pasting is hard work you know! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, because you and I both know that I was only referring to the maps, right?
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    I wish I could play console people against my PC. I'd pwn them so bad they would cry. Thumbsticks eh? Riiight. Lay down so I can humiliate you with my much more accutate 2.0 USB optical mouse.

    PS: I never liked consoles. The only console game I've played and liked (because there wasn't a PC version) were any of the Mario things, GoldenEye, ol' skool Mortal Combat. While many of the great games continue to come out on the console first I rejoice that they are finally giving them to PC.
    Ghost Recon, Splinter Cell, and Halo are my favorite ones to cross over from the realm of evil console-ness.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    I still can't see people complaing on things on Halo for things other than the repetitive levels and system preference.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Oct 14 2004, 04:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Oct 14 2004, 04:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><b>I still can't see people complaing on things on Halo for things other than the repetitive levels and system preference.</b></span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    just so everyone can see it. it's the truth.

    i already explained away the repetetive levels, and then if you don't like consoles then that's your flaw. that's like not liking blondes.. for the rest of your life you won't be able to enjoy blondes, if you don't like them.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited October 2004
    i mean, if you grew up with but didn't enjoy Metroid, Legend of Zelda, Super Mario 3, and then Super Metroid, Super M. World, Megaman X... Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on the Genesis...

    you kind of suck, as a human being in modern society.
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    Ah but it's not consoles that I don't like (humor aside). I like many games on consoles. Consoles are perfect for playing platformers, RPGs, puzzle games and so on. Some of my favorite games, the silent hill series, are console games. But as far as FPS games go, the controller block is a major problem for me. I see no reason to play with a bouncing innacurate crosshair when a control scheme exists that allows me to target my weapon directly where I want it to go.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    well just like you have to learn to use a joystick or mouse for a computer.. you have to learn to use a thumbstick on an xbox controller.. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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