Important note. Brittan runs on a parlamentary system, which simply means they dont choose who holds executive office. They vote for the people who vote for the person who gets the position.
People usually complain that we use a electorial college and how 'un-democratic' it is to elect the president. Countries who use parlamentary systems don't directly choose who gets executive powers.
People also complain about the 2 party system.. Ehh.... never mind, thats another debate..
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Gentle folks at the Guardian, In your plea to get your non-American readers to write to voters in Clark County, Iowa, you are correct that events in the US have had, and will have, effects on world events. For example, we have pulled your chestnuts out of the fire in two world wars that were occasioned by European diplomacy. Maybe you'd like a vote in which American president will oversee the next rescue. The next time you have elections in Great Britain, I shall endeavour to send names of your citizens to people in France, Iraq, India, the United Arab Emirates, Botswana, Pakistan, China and Argentina so that they may attempt to influence your election. It's only fair that everybody in the world should have a say in the selection of the prime minister. California<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
rofl @ the next one esp
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I used to visit the UK every year. I love the history and culture of your country. But after I heard about your campaign to influence our elections, I've decided that neither myself, nor my family will ever visit again. I'm offended by your campaign and because of it, I'm remembering more of the negative aspects I've seen in the UK than the positive ones. Though I still love the castles! Detroit<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You radical leftwingers are worse than the Taliban. I suggest you stand back and take a good hard look at yourselves.
PS: When do you propose to add Michael Moore to your staff of lunatics? United States<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I suggest that if a particular reader of the Guardian would like to vote in America - would really like to influence the American election, say - that reader should move to America, become a citizen of the United States. Everyone is welcome here. Even the readers of the Guardian. But if you don't wish to be an American, to live in Ohio, for instance, and participate in the American political process, that is too bad. Perhaps there is something wrong with you. Perhaps it is your teeth. New York<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Go back to sipping your tea and leave our people alone. Ohio<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columnists/story/0,,1333748,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columni...1333748,00.html</a> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. <b>John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-othell+Oct 23 2004, 10:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (othell @ Oct 23 2004, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just something to add to all of this.
<a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columnists/story/0,,1333748,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columni...1333748,00.html</a> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. <b>John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes but he also says this which just kind of confused me. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->George W Bush is... well, he's... Jesus,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seriously though this guy calls Bush nuts? The body of his article is ether insulting to Bush or Americans in general, the rest talks about that stupid bulge in Bush's suit. Then to top it all off he suggests Bush should be assassinated.
What a nut job, I'm all for sending in those Navy Seals now. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-coil+Oct 24 2004, 01:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Oct 24 2004, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's called satire. Or hyperbole. Take your pick; you either didn't get or refused to acknowledge either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Doesn’t satire normally have to be <i>funny</i>? As for exaggerations, plenty of those, but if I want to read lame exaggerations I'll go to FOX and click on an article about Bush's poll numbers. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Don't try and defend this guy, it wasn't funny, it wasn't even sane, unless you find not-so-subtle hints at the assassination of the president to be hilarious satire.
Why, that article was quite funny actually. Just because you can't laugh at somebody who you adore so much that you have to put him into your signature and rub it into everyone's face doesn't mean normal people can't either.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Oct 24 2004, 12:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 24 2004, 12:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think that article is called bad taste <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope. It's like Highlander. There can be only <a href='http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092610/' target='_blank'>One</a>.
<!--QuoteBegin-eggmac+Oct 24 2004, 01:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ Oct 24 2004, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why, that article was quite funny actually. Just because you can't laugh at somebody who you adore so much that you have to put him into your signature and rub it into everyone's face doesn't mean normal people can't either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well at least I have a sig, although the text telling everyone how your sig image was too big is quite appealing. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Trust me, I laugh at Bush all the time, it's unavoidable, but this was just anger and hatred poorly disguised as an insult to satire. I don't care who the president is, be it Bush or Kerry, wishing an assassination upon that person is insulting to not only the president but the American people. This isn't funny in any way shape or form, if you laughed at this you need some help, or a new sense of humor.
If you laughed at that it proves your bias and favor towards anti-americanism :/
Seriously I would never ask for a country's leader to be shot unless I really hated the said country
Bad Taste++
Speaking of which, I guess the guardian realized that it's not too smart to ask for the president to be <a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/tvradio/story/0,14676,1335307,00.html' target='_blank'>killed.</a>
I know this thread is old, dead, and moot; but I thought I would post a resolution - What happened in Clark County - how successful was the Guardian.
Now, this excerpt is pulled from Rush Limbaughs site - but I found it to be insiteful none the less.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The left-wing newspaper, The Guardian, targeted one county, one swing county in one swing state, invited readers to send one on one letters to independent American voters. And more than 11,000 Guardian readers responded, but the letter-writing campaign enraged Clark County residents who replied with letters of their own denouncing the Brits as stupid yellow toothed pansies. When Tuesday's votes were tallied, remember, Gore won Clark County, Ohio, by 324 votes. After Tuesday's votes were counted, Bush won Clark County by 1,620 votes over Kerry. In fact, Bush's vote total in Clark County this year, 34,444 was 25% higher than his 2000 total of 27,660. Nowhere among the Gore counties in Ohio did more votes move from the blue to the red column than in Clark County, directly attributable to the outsider-attempted influence of a British newspaper. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Nov 9 2004, 02:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Nov 9 2004, 02:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's funny that the Guardian did have an effect on the US elections after all (if not quite what they wanted). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wow what a great campaign tactic, these liberal europeans should do more of these things... hmmm
I hate to quote my self and say "I told you so" but....
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->America is a sovereign nation and the leader of the world and deep down I think almost every American takes pride in this, and stuff like this is just going to bring up these feelings of pride. The result in most cases will be anger, resentment, mild amusement, the quiet death of any Brit who is dumb enough to send one of those out by SEAL Team 6. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Really it's just common sense that most Americans won't like this<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I told you so. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Such a vicious reaction by Americans to their beloved British allies..how dare someone meddle with American politics, but America can meddle with anyone else's politics the poorer and browner the country is the better....aaahh such irony. Being a Bush supporter I knew he'd come off best in that situation, still funny to read the rednecks goin nuts about it though.
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People usually complain that we use a electorial college and how 'un-democratic' it is to elect the president. Countries who use parlamentary systems don't directly choose who gets executive powers.
People also complain about the 2 party system.. Ehh.... never mind, thats another debate..
Have a nice day.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Gentle folks at the Guardian,
In your plea to get your non-American readers to write to voters in Clark County, Iowa, you are correct that events in the US have had, and will have, effects on world events. For example, we have pulled your chestnuts out of the fire in two world wars that were occasioned by European diplomacy. Maybe you'd like a vote in which American president will oversee the next rescue. The next time you have elections in Great Britain, I shall endeavour to send names of your citizens to people in France, Iraq, India, the United Arab Emirates, Botswana, Pakistan, China and Argentina so that they may attempt to influence your election. It's only fair that everybody in the world should have a say in the selection of the prime minister.
California<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
rofl @ the next one esp
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I used to visit the UK every year. I love the history and culture of your country. But after I heard about your campaign to influence our elections, I've decided that neither myself, nor my family will ever visit again. I'm offended by your campaign and because of it, I'm remembering more of the negative aspects I've seen in the UK than the positive ones. Though I still love the castles!
Detroit<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You radical leftwingers are worse than the Taliban. I suggest you stand back and take a good hard look at yourselves.
PS: When do you propose to add Michael Moore to your staff of lunatics?
United States<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I suggest that if a particular reader of the Guardian would like to vote in America - would really like to influence the American election, say - that reader should move to America, become a citizen of the United States. Everyone is welcome here. Even the readers of the Guardian. But if you don't wish to be an American, to live in Ohio, for instance, and participate in the American political process, that is too bad. Perhaps there is something wrong with you. Perhaps it is your teeth.
New York<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Go back to sipping your tea and leave our people alone.
Ohio<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columnists/story/0,,1333748,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columni...1333748,00.html</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. <b>John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columnists/story/0,,1333748,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columni...1333748,00.html</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. <b>John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but he also says this which just kind of confused me. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->George W Bush is... well, he's... Jesus,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seriously though this guy calls Bush nuts? The body of his article is ether insulting to Bush or Americans in general, the rest talks about that stupid bulge in Bush's suit. Then to top it all off he suggests Bush should be assassinated.
What a nut job, I'm all for sending in those Navy Seals now. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Hyperbole? I don't think so either.
The tone of the article does not lend itself to either conclusion.
Maybe the author just thought it would be funny... Please forgive me if I don't see the humor in such things.
Doesn’t satire normally have to be <i>funny</i>? As for exaggerations, plenty of those, but if I want to read lame exaggerations I'll go to FOX and click on an article about Bush's poll numbers. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Don't try and defend this guy, it wasn't funny, it wasn't even sane, unless you find not-so-subtle hints at the assassination of the president to be hilarious satire.
if i had the "i see what you did there" picture, i'd post it, because that was very tricky.
TBH, the article is not funny at all (even if he meant it entirely as a joke).
On the other hand, the responses generated by the article are. So I suppose it would be defensible to call it funny.
Nope. It's like Highlander. There can be only <a href='http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092610/' target='_blank'>One</a>.
Well at least I have a sig, although the text telling everyone how your sig image was too big is quite appealing. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Trust me, I laugh at Bush all the time, it's unavoidable, but this was just anger and hatred poorly disguised as an insult to satire.
I don't care who the president is, be it Bush or Kerry, wishing an assassination upon that person is insulting to not only the president but the American people.
This isn't funny in any way shape or form, if you laughed at this you need some help, or a new sense of humor.
Seriously I would never ask for a country's leader to be shot unless I really hated the said country
Bad Taste++
Speaking of which, I guess the guardian realized that it's not too smart to ask for the president to be <a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/tvradio/story/0,14676,1335307,00.html' target='_blank'>killed.</a>
GJ guardian
Now, this excerpt is pulled from Rush Limbaughs site - but I found it to be insiteful none the less.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The left-wing newspaper, The Guardian, targeted one county, one swing county in one swing state, invited readers to send one on one letters to independent American voters. And more than 11,000 Guardian readers responded, but the letter-writing campaign enraged Clark County residents who replied with letters of their own denouncing the Brits as stupid yellow toothed pansies. When Tuesday's votes were tallied, remember, Gore won Clark County, Ohio, by 324 votes. After Tuesday's votes were counted, Bush won Clark County by 1,620 votes over Kerry. In fact, Bush's vote total in Clark County this year, 34,444 was 25% higher than his 2000 total of 27,660. Nowhere among the Gore counties in Ohio did more votes move from the blue to the red column than in Clark County, directly attributable to the outsider-attempted influence of a British newspaper. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow what a great campaign tactic, these liberal europeans should do more of these things... hmmm
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->America is a sovereign nation and the leader of the world and deep down I think almost every American takes pride in this, and stuff like this is just going to bring up these feelings of pride. The result in most cases will be anger, resentment, mild amusement, the quiet death of any Brit who is dumb enough to send one of those out by SEAL Team 6. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Really it's just common sense that most Americans won't like this<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I told you so. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->