****ing Sp2

ComproxComprox *chortle*Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
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So, I installed SP2 on this guys machine. It has just been fully formatted, and re-installed with a legal XP CD. I get Norton running, and go to do windows updates. I do a whack of minor ones first, which are fine. Then I do SP2, now the taskbar won't display, no matter how many times I reboot.

I tried shutting down explorer.exe and relaunching it to no avail, and Im kinda stumped, any ideas?
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  • kuperayekuperaye Join Date: 2003-03-14 Member: 14519Members, Constellation
    re-format and get sp1
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  • KhaimKhaim Join Date: 2002-06-28 Member: 841Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Yeah'...I've heard SP2 is very very bad mojo...You can uninstall it from the Add/Remove programs bit, if you want to.
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  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    I'm still yet to install SP2 with all these stories floating around. You could try formatting again and installing SP2 as the very first thing you do to see if it's that in particular causing the problem...

    Oh, and Norton == satan <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I think the remote chance that a hacker will decide to hijack my machine through a hardware and software firewall because I don't have SP2 installed is offset by the fact that I don't have SP2 installed, and therefore my computer actually works.
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    WOAH!

    So, SP2 is working fine, it was Nvidias useless drivers. Uninstalled em and I can use it again...

    What are those 3rd party nvidia drivers called? omega?
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  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    Out of interest, which driver version was giving you the problem and what's the graphics card in the machine?
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  • KhaimKhaim Join Date: 2002-06-28 Member: 841Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    not sure Comprox, but i'm sure that <a href='http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Third+Party+Nvidia+Drivers&btnG=Google+Search' target='_blank'>Mr. Google</a> knows.
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Ok, I got it working using normal nvidia drivers. Seems my other tech had been doing SP2 install and Nvidia driver install at the same time, causing problems, as expected with windows. Just removing and reinstalling the drivers fixed it.
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  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    Mr. Comprox sir, I suggest you try the OMEGA drivers, good stuff.
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    I'm still not getting SP2 until I hear it gets good.
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  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Works great for me. As long as I leave that blasted firewall off. Cause when I turn it on... all hell breaks loose; on the same scale of hell breaking loose in Doom 3.

    BT freaks out (whether or not I have the ports open, which I always do).
    IRC freaks out (same ^^).
    Internet browsing becomes 28.8kbps speeds.
    Gaming ping becomes 3 - 4 digits.

    At least, that was for the first 2/3 weeks after I installed it. Lately, I have managed to keep sp2 firewall up without as many problems. BT still doesn't like it, regardless of whether I have all the common ports open; 6734, 6881, 6889, 6969, etc.

    Course, knowing me, there is undoubtedly something mind bogglingly simple that I probably forgot to do.
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    But is there any benefit to using it?
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I'm sure there's more 3rd party Nvidia drivers than Omega drivers... That being said, Omega drivers are pretty concreate.
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  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    The only, single problem I have with Service Pack 2 is that it sucks down around 50 MB more RAM than my system used to. I have 512 MB, so it's no biggy, but just so you know that it's been my experience that Windows consumes far more resources with SP2.

    Given that this is a family computer though (the building of my personal god machine begins in around 1 month!) the security wins over the slight lessening of performance.
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  • marcemarce Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30869Members
    what are the benefits of omega over the standard nvidia drivers?

    Anyone here using omega?
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-marce+Oct 21 2004, 12:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (marce @ Oct 21 2004, 12:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what are the benefits of omega over the standard nvidia drivers?

    Anyone here using omega? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You get to be a 1337 H4X02!!!11!11one

    Seriously though, more features, more customizable stuff, and generally better support for game specific problems.
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  • 2Dd2Dd Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21246Members
    what is sp2?
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-2-D+Oct 20 2004, 11:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2-D @ Oct 20 2004, 11:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what is sp2? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Service Pack 2, for Windows. It turns the firewall on, plus adds some stuff to Internet Explorer. I found every single noticeable feature to be annoying.
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  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    SP2 rocks. Everything I want bundled into a free update?

    That'll be the MS.
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  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    SP2: Microshaft basically saying "OLO! USE TEH DRIV0RZ TAHT W3 S4Y 4R3 T3H UBAR LEET 0R SORVICE PAXZ0R TOO WILL PWNZ0R JOO! OLL!"
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  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    I've installed it since I kept on getting whined at by those concerned about security. Works fine, haven't noticed anything different besides the security icon.
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