Times Like These...

Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
edited October 2004 in Frontiersmen Strategy
Make me want to join NS competitive play.

I just wasted 25 minutes of my time commanding this team of LOW IQ MORONS who could not FOLLOW THEIR ORDERS during the second half of the game.

I commed our way to destroy their first hive because I detected it early, they didn't stand a chance. I move my marines to their second (original) hive, sieged that out, took even more work. Then...their third and final hive had just completed, I figured it was a piece of cake. This was at the 8 minute mark, by the way. I had a good economy, dropped HMGs and SGs and welders for everybody, sent them a waypoint...

And they were attracted to all over the map, they spread out, half of them felt compelled to solo double (5 ocs) on their own, this continued for about....14 minutes.

At the 25 minute mark, their second hive was building, I recalled all my marines, outfitted them with HMGs, welderes, SGs, sent them on their way....

3 of them die trying to knife a gorge, the rest wandered to double.

At that point, I cracked. I verbally abused my marine team in all talk for their stupidity and imcompetence, and then proceeded to exit the server.

Any other frustrating commanding experiences?

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  • AzkarAzkar Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18204Members, Constellation
  • TheAdjTheAdj He demanded a cool forum title of some type. Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28436Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    Entire team has HA, its about 9 minutes into the game. 2/2 Ups, Mostly HMGs with a single GL on ayumi. All the RTs except gorge's hideout and Pressure, which is the hive, are capped. We get to the siege point, drop a PG, then walk in. The entire team (8 marines) then dies to about 4 skulks that hit them from behind while they move into the hive. Half our RTs go down during this time. They proceed to wander around the map for another 5 minutes, then I see a skulk leap into base, so I know Hamasaki is up. I rally them again, drop more HA/HMGs, and send them to Hamasaki via AE35. A single fade then kills the entire team, one by one, because NONE of them (I seriously mean 0, none, nada) of them weld anything. I never see a welder spark (until my 2 listeners joined) despite explaining to them how to weld after they ignored my voice commands. Then the onos appears. This player ended up with over 175 kills after a 90 minute period, because my entire team refused to do anything as a team, they mostly shot each other and died to the first alien that appeared. Games last an hour and a half, and we manage to pull out a win after 2 good marines that can listen (still couldn't aim) joined the team and helped everyone else stay alive. I killed 7 hives with siege, and 2 with a shotgun/HMG rush. I think everyone on my team had a negative score, and at least 3 aliens had over 100 kills, including the guy with nearly 200. I decided that would be the last game of the day.
  • exileSoulexileSoul Join Date: 2004-07-04 Member: 29716Members
    just pug. or else stop commanding.
  • ChurchChurch Meatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2 Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11646Members, Constellation
    Just find a good, relaible server. Where do you play anyways?
  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    WOW! those are two affully painful games. Long games are great when everyone on both teams cooperates and it's a back and forth struggle, but not when nobody cooperates. bummer man.
  • CMasterCMaster Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21922Members
    HERA.
    All the nodes ave archiving and the one immediatley outside - which the aliens dont have, cos I Siege it from Holo. My team (save someone from my clan and another) have already demonstrated that they are largely incompetent, but we did manage to take Data Core down and get most of the res nodes by virtue of the early game being a small one.
    So, I beacon everybody back to base, give out JPs and heavy weappons/shotties, and say "move together. Kill archiving. BY this time the teams hav gone from 4v4 to 9v9. They all die. and again. and again. So, HA train. It gets in there, although somewhat depleted, and builds a phase. So, HA, and phase as you respawn then. Except 3 HA wander off to reception and duel with some OCs instead. Phase dies. Game proceeds (aliens in one hive, one node, rines with 8 nodes, ful tech, Cats) for about another half an hour. Res continues to climb (I built an elec TF wall at all the doors into base for the hell of it), up to somehwere over 2000. Eventually, another clan mate joins. I give the 3 of us JPs, Shotties and Welders. We take the hive down effectively on our own. Sigh.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    Damn I hate those kinds of games... sucks man. I feel ya.

    Do you guys find this lack of intelligence thing happening more since 2.01?
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    I've pretty much stopped pubbing in publics because of retards

    only combat for pubs

    Rapier7 seriously just join a clan it's 10x better, it's not like you can never pub again after you join a clan...
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    I find these kind of situations the best where you can be! especially if you win. You cant have greater joy than win with complete naab team over vet-stacked other. These are allso the situations where you ahve to give everything you got and keep your nervers what ever happened. Games that i remember are allmost allways like these and especially like that 200-kill monster all of them have had some crazy-statted opponent.

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  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    edited October 2004
    Also find a pub that encourages people to listen via admin kicking them if they dont
    I also find that having only 2 phase gates and beconing alot keeps my troops okay. else I just jump outa the chair after giving myself a JP and try to take down the hives myself..
    I like to think commanding on a pub is uber practice for medpacking specialy if you can pull out a win with retards.

    Commander: "Here have a SG"
    Retard: "Yhaaaaa!!! Can I go poop!"
  • MyrsnipeMyrsnipe Join Date: 2004-10-14 Member: 32256Members
    The frustration is nothing compared to have a teamkiller on a server without a decent vote kick system, sigh...
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    change servers then.

    add some servers you know are "ok" to favorites.

    if you're not enjoying the game at some particular server because of whatever reason, just press esc, click on find servers and pick one.
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
  • Red_GhostRed_Ghost Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15007Members
    Yeah, WTH ... join a clan.
  • relsanrelsan Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
    The problem with joining a clan is that you have to make a commitment to go to the practice sessions which means you gotta be on the server at a certain time on a certain day. For some clans thats more than one day a week and on weekends too! I have strong issues with commitment so I don't like this.

    And if you don't go to practice then you don't even get to play in matches. And if you are sucky in comparison to other clan members, you still might not get to play. Also when you lose a match it sucks more than if you are on a pub because everybody gets bummed out after practicing so hard. Same with cheating, sucks 10x more when a clan cheats you of a win. Unless you have hard evidence to submit to league administrators which is tough if you weren't paying attention. Only bright side is winning.

    That's why I pub. It's less emotional, nothing to lose, and I only got at most an hour to play anyway.
  • Lumberjack_WannabeLumberjack_Wannabe Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14404Members, Constellation
    clanning is actually less emotional than certain pubs to me... i mean when my team ejects amplifier and then gets (4)NSPlayer to comm, who drops 4 ccs in their hive, i get ****... at least when i scrim or play a match i know my comm will drop crap for me, get worthy upgrades (no weapons 1 first), and actually know how to comm.
  • SDJasonSDJason Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16841Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rapier7+Oct 27 2004, 06:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Oct 27 2004, 06:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Make me want to join NS competitive play.

    I just wasted 25 minutes of my time commanding this team of LOW IQ MORONS who could not FOLLOW THEIR ORDERS during the second half of the game.

    I commed our way to destroy their first hive because I detected it early, they didn't stand a chance. I move my marines to their second (original) hive, sieged that out, took even more work. Then...their third and final hive had just completed, I figured it was a piece of cake. This was at the 8 minute mark, by the way. I had a good economy, dropped HMGs and SGs and welders for everybody, sent them a waypoint...

    And they were attracted to all over the map, they spread out, half of them felt compelled to solo double (5 ocs) on their own, this continued for about....14 minutes.

    At the 25 minute mark, their second hive was building, I recalled all my marines, outfitted them with HMGs, welderes, SGs, sent them on their way....

    3 of them die trying to knife a gorge, the rest wandered to double.

    At that point, I cracked. I verbally abused my marine team in all talk for their stupidity and imcompetence, and then proceeded to exit the server.

    Any other frustrating commanding experiences? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Come to the NSARMSLAB server... i WILL show you how to comm rines...

    Usually there arent noobs... but occasionally on that server... it gets.... ugly.....


    I cant promise you will win.... but through Commandah Ahhnold, mass spamming of waypoints, and lots of IP's... you sure as hell will have fun....

    ~Jason
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    the only maps you can possibly lose on a 12 vs 12 player server are nothing and agora because your marines dont dare to go down the elevator -> aliens get 2 hives.
  • TimmythemoonpigTimmythemoonpig Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22407Members
    Think about it this way...

    To get a good game you have to join a passworded server, it sounds like too much effort for me, you probably have to talk to someone called 'monkeh' or 'sirNoobalot' on irc to get on...too much effort..

    People say join a clan..but its so painful. I've tried it a few times now but jesus its awful, you start off at the bottom with 14 yr old cs kids telling you what to do, you find out about all the infighting, the pointless practices and everyone is called Timmeh or SUYF or o_0 ..too much effort..

    So you end up joining pub servers and each time you do you say to yourself 'this time I will be calm, I'll be cool and calm no matter what happens' Its like some disgusting vice I have and I always end up comming a herd of retards..in fact I've found the only ONLY strategy that has any hope is a 2 hive lock..

    I feel there is a momentum to the marines and once you get them all together and moving they build the stuff and move on, BUT once that momentum is broken they all scatter and inevitably die stupidly...

    SO anyway here's the 2nd last game I commed...eclipse...
    I just want to win, so hive is maint, and I get eclipse hive locked down with turrets and pg then quickly the WHOLE team moves and we take C.Core hive with turrets and a pg too, and all the RT's inbetween, I am pretty amazed, very fast and very smooth, no ups really cept for a1 because of the expensive hive lockdowns..

    Now I settle down to say my usual 'watch hives till decent ups lads, just keep phasing/welding' and I would usually like 1/2 good shooters roam around, but I don't wait for ups or MT, shagit, I've got a decent team, aliens just have southloop and maint, so I save a bit and drop sg's for everyone and 'go kill' ...

    I have never seen 7 marines die so quickly, EVER, okay so its bad luck, nope...they just keep dying like flies, the aliens descend on CC, I swear in 20 seconds its completely gone, there was only ONE fade vs 7 sg's, Eclipse is gone in another 40 seconds, and all of them started asking where the HA is....I abused them so much I so had to change my name...I just want to hurt the marines make them LEARN somehow, but most of these guys never will...



    Right so that was the 2nd last game....this one is the latest game I played...

    It's on a diff server, 8v8, same map, right I am going to be calm etc...they could not, would not get ONE SINGLE RT on eclipse, 3 guys building the rt 1 skulk kills them all, but I just refuse to get angry, I don't have any res for anything, I just get up get a drink from the fridge and come back, they haven't even noticed...I have about 80 res somehow, I just say screw it, beacon drop sg's and type in 'attack hive' ...

    This absolute perfect singular blob moves down the minimap, bristling with sg's, walks STRAIGHT PAST triad rt without shooting it!!! (!!!!!!!!) goes into eclipse hive and blows it away in half a minute, killing fades and everything, I dropped about 2 medpacks with my mouth still open....this THING then moves off to CC and mows down the nearly completed hive...not one marine died...flawless....amazing...I cannot explain what goes on in these guys heads...



    Well thats it...this sounds crazy, but pub commanders really should have some kinda self help group, especially after particularily mental games with the most moronic players, I just want to physically tell them about how stupid they were, I've actually caught myself talking out aloud to myself not understanding why they don't phase?? why don't they weld each other?? I have always done all that since day 1 aaaaahhhh
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