Neon Genesis

kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
<div class="IPBDescription">can someone explain to me the gist</div> Hey Hey.

I rented some dvd's from blockbuster and they only carried some episodes of the series, but I got the one's entitled "death and rebirth" and "end of evangelion."

Alot of times I asked myself what in the bleeping world was going on. I reckon that the rebirth of mankind is but a dream and that dream is your reality? Well, what really happened at the end?

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  • torquetorque Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20035Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    "Death & Rebirth" and "End of Evangelion" are the two movies... they're actually meant to be the ending after you've watched the entire 26 episode series. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>DOH!</span>
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->can someone explain to me the gist<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes. Quanaut. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    But see the actual series first.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    And even then, you won't have a bleepin' idea what's going on. Enjoy a cast comprised entirely of neurotic teenangsters and adultangsters (if there even is such a word). Not to say the series isn't enjoyable. Just don't watch it to often, or you'll grow sick and tired of it.
    At least the mechas are way cool.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    The gist of it is that you've missed all the good episodes and skipped straight onto the apalling ending. If i were you, rent the first 15 or so episodes and watch them, then walk away from the series with fond memories of cool mecha action rather than thinking it was a pile of crap based on poor characters and story.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    edited October 2004
    Actually seeing that bastard get eaten alive by the eva alone is worth the price of the dvd.


    OMG Spoiler!!!1111
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    Dude that sucked.

    There was nothing apart from some legs coming out the hand.

    Rei coming from the Eva's was slightly more unsettling.
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Athena+Oct 28 2004, 06:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ Oct 28 2004, 06:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "Death & Rebirth" and "End of Evangelion" are the two movies... they're actually meant to be the ending after you've watched the entire 26 episode series. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    will it explain what the hell went on with 25 and 26... cuz i'm still confused... maybe i'll rent and watch them, just because i need a damn anime fix till the second season of hellsing is ready
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Oct 28 2004, 09:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Oct 28 2004, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Athena+Oct 28 2004, 06:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ Oct 28 2004, 06:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "Death & Rebirth" and "End of Evangelion" are the two movies... they're actually meant to be the ending after you've watched the entire 26 episode series. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    will it explain what the hell went on with 25 and 26... cuz i'm still confused... maybe i'll rent and watch them, just because i need a damn anime fix till the second season of hellsing is ready <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *SPOILER*
























    Episodes 25 and 26 explain Instrumentality. Instrumentality is what SEELE wants to do, which is forcing the mind/soul of every human into essentially one entity, to fill in the void of emptyness that people feel. It never really explains how Instrumentality would happen in the series, the last actual real world scene was Shinji killing Kouru. The 26 episode series is a sort of self-help guide to happiness. Shinji found the only way that people wouldn't hate him is if he began to love himself. Until then his perception of other people perceiving him would always be that of hate. Don't ask for spoilers on the movie, I haven't seen it in a while, and didn't pick it up when I bought my box set around two weeks ago.
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    oh... i kinda get it now... bit of an abrupt ending. OK, so do the movies like... continue the "real world" scenes and round it off or something, or do they just slam in an extra battle that people failed to realise was coming, something after 3rd impact?
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    Uh well NERV is invaded by Special Forces.

    That was cool.

    Then it all went very very very crap.
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    hold on... even though the threat of angels is gone... NERV is still there? what the hell is it's role now then?
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    Evangelion is over-rated and I have finally come to a point of not being able to watch it anymore mearly because I can't stomach Shinji anymore.

    If you want something along the same philosophical level I highly recommend RahXephon.
    Not only do I care about the characters far far far more than I did in Evangelion, but they pulled some very nasty and sad crap around the 18th ep mark ;(
    Though I did find their explanation of it all nearing the later episodes to be.. a little rushed.. or they were trying to give reason to a story they couldn't really explain.
    But trust me, cool characters, cool mecha, cool plot development and the rest.

    RahXephon > Evangelion
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Oct 29 2004, 04:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Oct 29 2004, 04:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hold on... even though the threat of angels is gone... NERV is still there? what the hell is it's role now then? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Using Unit 01 as part of The Instrumentality Project....

    I could write pages on it... but yeah. Long story short. Unit 01 was needed as part of Instrumentality.. I think...

    This is why I hate Evangelion, you can't draw any definate conclusions from it. And that is never ever a good point.
  • torquetorque Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20035Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Infinitum+Oct 28 2004, 09:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Oct 28 2004, 09:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Evangelion is over-rated and I have finally come to a point of not being able to watch it anymore mearly because I can't stomach Shinji anymore. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I completely agree with Inf on the first point. The sheer amount of merchandising Gainax did while it was still on tv didn't help, nor does the fact that they're STILL churning out 'new' products...

    I haven't seen too much of Rah yet, but I would have to agree. It's much more palatable. Also, if you want a more military-esque feel, you may like Gasaraki.
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    ok... so;

    No more bad guys
    But unit 01 is needed for instrumentality
    So NERV still exists

    is that it? they made 2 movies outta that... jesus
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Oct 28 2004, 12:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Oct 28 2004, 12:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ok... so;

    No more bad guys
    But unit 01 is needed for instrumentality
    So NERV still exists

    is that it? they made 2 movies outta that... jesus <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was under the impression that Gendo wanted to initiate Third Impact, not Instrumentality. The only way he could accomplish his version of Third Impact, however, was with Rei merging with Lillith, and ultimately it was up to Shinji as to wether or not he would destroy humanity or allow them to ascend into heaven. I might be wrong, like I said I need to see the movie.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-|Owen|+Oct 29 2004, 04:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Oct 29 2004, 04:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ok... so;

    No more bad guys
    But unit 01 is needed for instrumentality
    So NERV still exists

    is that it? they made 2 movies outta that... jesus <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Welll.. yes. Pretty much.

    Oh yeah... the way the movies work out are a pain in the arse as well.

    Death & Rebith... well the first half is a summary of the main points of the TV series, the second half is the FIRST half of End of Evangelion.

    End of Evangelion contains the SECOND HALF of Death & Rebirth and then it finishes with it's own unique flair...


    If you want an incredibly well created Gainax series. I cannot recommend Nadia The Secret of Blue Water <b>ENOUGH</b>. It's one of my Top 5 series of all time. Easily.
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Infinitum+Oct 28 2004, 05:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Oct 28 2004, 05:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the second half is the FIRST half of End of Evangelion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    IE The best bit.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    Well I enjoyed the Asuka Vs Mass Production Series fight... then it goes down hill into the philosophical s***hole that is Evangelion....
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