What Does The World Think?
<div class="IPBDescription">Now that the election is over (sorta)</div> Just a question I want to ask to our Noncitizen friends?
Are you more accepting of our president?
Does it change your view of Bush in anyway?
Nem: I know your either going to move or lock this.
Are you more accepting of our president?
Does it change your view of Bush in anyway?
Nem: I know your either going to move or lock this.
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we think mr. bush is the biggest idiot in the world, and have the same attitude towards his goverment <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
however its also known mr. kerry wouldnt have been much better, except for the fact that the world's opinion is that mr. bush is an idiot, and YOU voting him for another 4 years makes quite a portion of the americans look a bit odd in our eyes :/ (not that our opinions would matter to any of you in the least <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
we think mr. bush is the biggest idiot in the world, and have the same attitude towards his goverment <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
however its also known mr. kerry wouldnt have been much better, except for the fact that the world's opinion is that mr. bush is an idiot, and YOU voting him for another 4 years makes quite a portion of the americans look a bit odd in our eyes :/ (not that our opinions would matter to any of you in the least <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course your opinions don't matter, it's natural for a people to care about themselves and their needs before the needs of others.
Would you like it if we voted for your leaders? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> of course not.
Kerry was just the bigger idiot I guess.
Uzi: Do you like Bush, Mr. Foreign Guy?
Foreigners: No.
Uzi: Too bad, you don't matter.
. . . so, what was the point of this discussion?
we think mr. bush is the biggest idiot in the world, and have the same attitude towards his goverment <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
however its also known mr. kerry wouldnt have been much better, except for the fact that the world's opinion is that mr. bush is an idiot, and YOU voting him for another 4 years makes quite a portion of the americans look a bit odd in our eyes :/ (not that our opinions would matter to any of you in the least <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, that sounds about right.
Most of the planet seems to hate bush, yet americans don't seem to see that.
OMGOMG
Kerry: 252
Bush: 254
It's a close one.
Uzi: Do you like Bush, Mr. Foreign Guy?
Foreigners: No.
Uzi: Too bad, you don't matter.
. . . so, what was the point of this discussion? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I asked if your opinions of him changed or were any different, thats not going to change MY opinion.
Well thats my opinion but your still free to weigh in now aren't you? I'm just curious thats all.
It's sorta like asking if woman should vote, but my personal opinion is woman shouldn't vote anyway.*
But I still asked the question teehee
*This is not my actual opinion
WHO WOULD YOU HAVE VOTERD?
KERRY
OMGLOL U LOSED
Anyway, I personally don't careas much who wins, because from an international viewpoint not much would've changed anyway.
Saying the voice of people outside the US doesn't count is folly though. US precidency is a job that also goes on alot of stuff internationally, and thus affects people outside the US as well.
WHO WOULD YOU HAVE VOTERD?
KERRY
OMGLOL U LOSED
Anyway, I personally don't careas much who wins, because from an international viewpoint not much would've changed anyway.
Saying the voice of people outside the US doesn't count is folly though. US precidency is a job that also goes on alot of stuff internationally, and thus affects people outside the US as well. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ohhh just a little bit. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I probley would of asked the same thing if Kerry got the win. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Not that Bush will affect "our needs". Blair would probably prefer Bush to win.
Uhhhh - there is this tiny little country called Australia see. We were part of the so called "3 Amigo's" who were diehard supporters of the war in Iraq - the cornerstones of the Coalition of the Willing. American, Britian and Australia.
Prior to the War in Iraq, most of our people didnt support it. John Howard, the Prime Minister, took us to war regardless. We had our elections nearly 5 weeks ago - and John Howard not only won again, but he increased his majority significantly, as well as winning control of BOTH houses of parliament.
The reason this means nothing to you is because Howard won. In the event he had lost, your local rag would have had "Oz Ousts Bush Arselicker" as its front page. Somehow, a key supporter of the war on Iraq winning re-election just wasnt such great news for liberal dominated industries like the media - so you never heard.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I doubt Kerry would pull out of Iraq. That would be crazy<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Quoted for emphasis, with plenty of offence for the Spanish. Put the rest of us in danger why dont you, show the terrorists you can influence democratic elections why dont you... ARGH!
About the spanish part, well americans did it themself, bush is in office because of the terrorist, the exact same agents like fear is in place, blame the politics that exploits it, not the popolous
Uhhhh - there is this tiny little country called Australia see. We were part of the so called "3 Amigo's" who were diehard supporters of the war in Iraq - the cornerstones of the Coalition of the Willing. American, Britian and Australia.
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Quoted for emphasis, with plenty of offence for the Spanish. Put the rest of us in danger why dont you, show the terrorists you can influence democratic elections why dont you... ARGH! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Don't forget Poland! ;P
"No offense" should have been in italics; it's code for "plenty of offense". If I hadn't wanted to offend, I wouldn't have mentioned the Spanish... (:
Lol. I would usually make a comment on that but i dont want to be eaten or shot by a rightwing fundamentalist
Except change his mind every 20 minutes.
Calling Bush out for not supplying the troops with the right equipment, yet he doesnt vote for the money to supply troops with the right equipment. Petty stuff like that.
"No offense" should have been in italics; it's code for "plenty of offense". If I hadn't wanted to offend, I wouldn't have mentioned the Spanish... (: <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I could remember everyone (including the traitors), but Bush, Blair and Howard (in that order) are frequently cited as the primary Iraq war supporters - the leaders of the so called "anglosphere" offensive against muslim ideology. In terms of contribution, I'd put Italy above Australia - but for some reason the Italian leader just isnt mentioned as often.
nou forgot poland!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There have been numerous IQ tests that test countries. All of the ones I have seen say that America is stupider than the rest of the world. In many online polls, the world has said that they want Kerry to win. I am not an expert on why people want that so I will just say that the world will think that Americans are even stupider than before.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Popular racism my friends - in all its glory. If he'd said black people, ***, lesbians, Jews, Hispanics, atheists he would have his digital heart torn out - but xenophobia directed towards Americans is A-OK! Cause they're all stupid olo, kerry r dum, nadar is poo poo head. It must really cut you up that you're all so damn intelligent, rational and progressive where you come from, yet the supposed nation of idiots is leading the world. Inferiority complex?
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Rather ironic then that yourself and other supporters of the Iraq was have claimed that it was justified because you are "helping the Iraqi people". Yet apparently you couldn't give two hoots about people outside of America.
The election? If it goes to Bush, you've made a bad choice. Bush has made a ton of foreign relations blunders and is widely hated in the international community. Understand that this is from people who don't hate America: they hate Bush. Whatever Kerry's policies, he's a fresh start. You need all the help you can get now that you've committed yourself to the Iraq quagmire, and if you're planning to keep fighting the war on terror by invading soveriegn nations. The nations of the world will be far more willing to deal with Kerry than Bush.
Uzi, much as you'd like it to be true, the United States does not exist in a vacuum. You may be a superpower, but your nation makes enemies of other nations at your peril. Eventually your position is going to be challanged, and the decisions your leaders make now will affect how the emerging superpowers view your country.
However, as a student of history it will certainly be interesting to see what Bush will do over the next 4 years. I can't wait to see how the invasions of Syria and Iran go, or which city will next be targetted by Osama and his ilk. If nothing else, Bush has given the fundamentalists in the Middle East propaganda fodder that will last them decades. The results will be fascinating.
To clarify, Bush and Kerry are both morons, and it seems to be more a case of "who is less incompetent?".
*edit* Typo *edit*
As far as their opinion of respective candidates for presidency are concerned - yup! Not having a murderous dictator running your country is a big plus - lets not go wild and give their opinion sway in US presidential elections.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The election? If it goes to Bush, you've made a bad choice. Bush has made a ton of foreign relations blunders and is widely hated in the international community. Understand that this is from people who don't hate America: they hate Bush. Whatever Kerry's policies, he's a fresh start. You need all the help you can get now that you've committed yourself to the Iraq quagmire, and if you're planning to keep fighting the war on terror by invading soveriegn nations. The nations of the world will be far more willing to deal with Kerry than Bush.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course they hate Bush - they'll hate anyone who does not have their interests covered. The whole France-Iraq relationship is well documented - as if they were ever going to take to kindly to America attacking Iraq. They also hate anyone who dares utter the name Jesus Christ outside of an expletive, much less take their religion seriously (perhaps thats going to far, you may only mention Christ in a hushed tone so as not to offend their delicate PC sensitivities). The nations of the world dont want to "deal" with America - they view every single damn decision as "what will get my country the most for us, and to hell with everyone else if we can get away with it". The US is as guilty of this as anyone - but lets not pretend the rest of the world is just lining up to make friends with the US.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Uzi, much as you'd like it to be true, the United States does not exist in a vacuum. You may be a superpower, but your nation makes enemies of other nations at your peril. Eventually your position is going to be challanged, and the decisions your leaders make now will affect how the emerging superpowers view your country.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your record stands for nothing when you have no power. If America ever finds itself powerless against another nation, then it wont matter whether you were the world's guardian angel or merciless pillager - he who holds the gun makes the rules. Despite what many people think, governments rarely strike out of spite, it is always out of personal gain. When some hypothetical Chinese official presses the button to end your supremacy, they wont be thinking "This is for years of calling us Commie pigs", it will be for cold political and economic advantage.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->However, as a student of history it will certainly be interesting to see what Bush will do over the next 4 years. I can't wait to see how the invasions of Syria and Iran go, or which city will next be targetted by Osama and his ilk. If nothing else, Bush has given the fundamentalists in the Middle East propaganda fodder that will last them decades. The results will be fascinating.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Everyone knows that terrorist attacks like 9/11 require unschooled, uneducated peasants to sign up enmasse at their nearest AQ recruiting station...... or do they? Tossing some deluded fool over a wall into Israel is easy - but attacks like 9/11 required a relatively small group of educated, well funded men. Terrorists thrive on the small scale - large scale just makes them a bigger target. They have the Israeli cause, and that generates them more than enough fanatics.
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