What's The Hitbox Like On Marine Rt's?

scooterbluescooterblue Join Date: 2003-05-20 Member: 16519Members
edited January 2007 in NS General Discussion

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  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    If a skulk is behind the RT correctly, it's quite possible that you WON'T be able to shoot him without running behind it and exposing your fleshy bits to an attack. You CAN shoot through the legs. It's possible to Shoot a skulk biting on the bottom post of the RT from the other side - it's not quite wide enough to cover the skulk. Try using your pistol and aiming for the edges. If a skulk gets laterally behind the middle part of the RT, however, you'll probally have a heck of a time killing him alone. Best to bring help. Have one marine walk up to the RT, dislodge the skulk, get killed, and have the other one shoot it.
  • hawthornehawthorne Join Date: 2003-10-05 Member: 21460Members
    a rumor is that if you crouch you're more able to shoot through the legs. i don't know if this is true, but i use it anyway.

    is there a fix for this hitbox coming?
  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->a rumor is that if you crouch you're more able to shoot through the legs. i don't know if this is true, but i use it anyway.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's true if they are near the ground, a good skulk knows how to **** a rt hitbox for maximum defense so that trick doesn't work.
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    If you happen to have a hand grenade, use it.
  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    I always try to shoot a bit around the skulk's model. That means don't aim at the skulk, aim a bit outside of the model as the hitbox is squarish anyway and covers parts outside the model.
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Nov 5 2004, 02:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Nov 5 2004, 02:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you happen to have a hand grenade, use it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And get killed while the skulk runs to you. anyone expierenced enough hide behind rt _hitbox_ will kill you while doing your muscle exercise with granny
  • cookmancookman Join Date: 2003-12-22 Member: 24654Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SLizer+Nov 5 2004, 08:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SLizer @ Nov 5 2004, 08:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Nov 5 2004, 02:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Nov 5 2004, 02:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you happen to have a hand grenade, use it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And get killed while the skulk runs to you. anyone expierenced enough hide behind rt _hitbox_ will kill you while doing your muscle exercise with granny <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hud_fastswitch 1
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-cookman+Nov 5 2004, 08:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cookman @ Nov 5 2004, 08:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SLizer+Nov 5 2004, 08:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SLizer @ Nov 5 2004, 08:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Nov 5 2004, 02:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Nov 5 2004, 02:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you happen to have a hand grenade, use it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And get killed while the skulk runs to you. anyone expierenced enough hide behind rt _hitbox_ will kill you while doing your muscle exercise with granny <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hud_fastswitch 1 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Eeeh and whats that supposed to do? help quicking the RoF of granny?
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    Often shooting a bit over the top or bottom of the visual model seems to yield positive results - but this is more trial and error, not any scientific method. Very often I'll see a set of sparks but get a kill by just pistoling the damn thing.

    On the bright side, there is an infallible way to kill Skulks hiding inside one of their own nodes <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-SaltzBad+Nov 5 2004, 08:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SaltzBad @ Nov 5 2004, 08:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    On the bright side, there is an infallible way to kill Skulks hiding inside one of their own nodes <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which is know by far less people. I love to hide in rt and wait to marine to come knife it(hopefully he dont see you inside of the rt) And if he sees you you have easy time to kill him due the even more bugged hitbox of alien rt....
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
    wow i just looked at the rt hitboxes, no wonder you cant hit the damn skulks, the top hit box is MASSIVE
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    Indeed could post a screenie so everyone can see
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-SLizer+Nov 5 2004, 09:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SLizer @ Nov 5 2004, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-cookman+Nov 5 2004, 08:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cookman @ Nov 5 2004, 08:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SLizer+Nov 5 2004, 08:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SLizer @ Nov 5 2004, 08:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Nov 5 2004, 02:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Nov 5 2004, 02:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you happen to have a hand grenade, use it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And get killed while the skulk runs to you. anyone expierenced enough hide behind rt _hitbox_ will kill you while doing your muscle exercise with granny <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hud_fastswitch 1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Eeeh and whats that supposed to do? help quicking the RoF of granny? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Who says you have to even throw the grenade? If the skulk runs out from the node at the sound of your priming, then objective accomplished and you can shoot him.
  • jammnojammno Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25832Members
    I would also like to know how to kill a skulk (Or gorge, in my case) hiding in a kharaa RT.

    Post a topic in Kharaa Strategy about it. =P
  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-jammno+Nov 5 2004, 09:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jammno @ Nov 5 2004, 09:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would also like to know how to kill a skulk (Or gorge, in my case) hiding in a kharaa RT.

    Post a topic in Kharaa Strategy about it. =P <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Shoot the RT? Or if it's a gorge just knife him.. he'll fall out because of the knockback.
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    Like that <a href='http://membres.lycos.fr/choc/skulkbitertgood.jpg' target='_blank'>?</a>
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    Drop a hand grenade at the base of the RT from a distance. By the time the skulk realizes that there's a grenade there or is getting there, one half to one second has passed, giving the skulk only two seconds to escape; and two seconds is still within a "leathal" area of the blast.

    You win.
  • CerebralCerebral Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17689Members
    walk up to the rt crouch and aim directly at the middle base post...spam your lmg and it will kill him 90% of the time...the hb for the center post is decieving and something about the lmg spread will cause it to hit him on either side of it if you just aim for the middle
  • tuemmykidstuemmykids Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20884Members
    Here's what it shows in HLMV (sorry for bad quality jpg):

    <img src='http://img105.exs.cx/img105/5779/rt.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    I thought HLMV was useless for showing NS hitboxes.
  • tuemmykidstuemmykids Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20884Members
    Well, I don't know any other way to show hitboxes.
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