Falling bob

Fluorescentduck · March 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Will bob fall down?</div>Should the level one alien, when shot while climbing, fall down? I think having bullets pounding into your flesh would make climbing and moving in general slightly more difficult. Same thing with fliers. Will they be able to fly when they are on fire? That'd be a little silly. Should bullets have a push effect? Will an alien charging straight towards a marine whom is blazing away be a little slowed down by all the hot lead smashing into it? If a few marines are shooting an alien, would the alien even be able to move forward? Alright, now make with the discussing.

Jedisar · March 2002

I can imagine it now. One lamer waiting til bob climbs up the wall, then shooting him once with a handgun, making him fall...over and over until bob finally gets above the guy and falls on him, killing him, to which the lamer shouts "U Stuped Haxx0r!". lol. On a more serious note...I believe the aliens SHOULD be slowed by bullets, but DEAR GODS NOT LIKE YOU ARE IN CS!!!!!

Comprox · March 2002

For a big debate on wallclimbing with Bob, take a look <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=9;t=734" target="_blank">here</a>. But to answer your main question, I am not sure, I do you know you can dislodge a level 1 alein by jumping into him some. Also read that other link to see the discussion about how the wallclimbing works. But if you can knock an alien off by jumping into him, I wouldnt be suprised you could fall off if he is shot. Don't quote me on that!

arsonide · March 2002

Erm, Slowing down is not a solution, it was tried to tweak a unit in Gloom and failed miserably, a defensive alien unit was going offensive way too much so the coder added the CS "omgimfucked" (actual quote) code into the equation, the unit wouldn't be slowed down if he was in his base, but he was frozen when shot outside of the base, it really sucked, I suggest making bob lose balance and fall a little, but catching himself if the fire stops, same thing with a flier, make them fall a bit and stop if the fire stops, the charger however, shouldn't be slowed down by anything. Also make bob's view change when on the ceiling...walking on ceiling on head != cool

Fluorescentduck · March 2002

I wasn't thinking that one shot with a pistol would knock bob off. I was thinking more along the lines of when two or more marines were wailing on him with several machineguns.

Loc_Dog · March 2002

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Post deleted and member banned. Come on people.

Comprox · March 2002

Loc Dog, may I point you to the General Discussion FAQ <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=35" target="_blank">here</a> where it clearly states:
<i>1. No posting in foreign languages. Us moderators can only speak and understand English.</i>
Helps if you read and take in FAQ's, eh? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Jedisar · March 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Comprox @ Mar. 05 2002,21:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Loc Dog, may I point you to the General Discussion FAQ <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=35" target="_blank">here</a> where it clearly states:
<i>1. No posting in foreign languages. Us moderators can only speak and understand English.</i>
Helps if you read and take in FAQ's, eh? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
What if he doesn't know english? lol, j/k...

Well, if Several Marines with Machine guns were opening up on Bob, there would be some Bob-bits covering the floor before he finished falling, afterall, Bob isn't super-armored...He's just a scout-like unit. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Fluorescentduck · March 2002

Good point

Fluorescentduck · March 2002

So what about flying while on fire?

Jedisar · March 2002

Okay..Lets do a Scenario.

You have wings made of thin membranes...

They catch fire.

Fire begins to burn through the THIN membrane.

How long will you be flying?

Fluorescentduck · March 2002

Exactly...

Fluorescentduck · March 2002

...but will this sort of thing be reflected in Natural Selection?

Greedo · March 2002

Hmmm... I hope that the fliers and the crawlers won't be too affected by bullets. There should be enough momentum for a flier gliding towards his prey to reduce the effects of bullets. As for the wall-climber, well, he is rather weak, and it won't take too many bullets to kill him anyways, so it's rather useless.

Besides, I don't think this whole bullet-draw is a good thing in the first place. Getting hit by bullets should knock in the direction they travel more than just stopping you where you are, anyways.

And I don't like the whole fire burning off the flier's wings thing either, because then you've got marines who spam with the flame thrower (you know, if it ever goes in), which will simply create a lot of p.o.'d players, myself included.

pielemuis · March 2002

hmm hope that the aliens won't be affected 2 much.You hould be able to shoot bobs from the cieling, but it would at least take 3-4 bullets, if that doesn't kill him allready,And about the flyer, i'm sure the aliens have found something 2 improve defence when flying, so i'm sure you can't simply punch holes in their wings so they can only walk.

Shuvit_Viper · March 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Fluorescentduck @ Mar. 06 2002,06:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...but will this sort of thing be reflected in Natural Selection?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you can edit your previous post hitting the 'edit' button <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Scythe · March 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Comprox @ Mar. 06 2002,07:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Loc Dog, may I point you to the General Discussion FAQ <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=35" target="_blank">here</a> where it clearly states:
<i>1. No posting in foreign languages. Us moderators can only speak and understand English.</i>
Helps if you read and take in FAQ's, eh? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Bad altavista translation:

Keine Eintragung in den Fremdsprachen. US-Moderatoren können
Englisch nur sprechen und verstehen.

I think that if bob taks a certain amout of damage in a certain amout of time, he/she/it should fall off the roof.

--Scythe--
<a href="mailto:the_only_scythe@yahoo.co.uk">the_only_scythe@yahoo.co.uk</a>

pielemuis · March 2002

And Locdoc it's not only in german it's offencive 2, plz watch your language, and don't start any flamewars.

pielemuis · March 2002

hmm this is a bad sign btw, the first flamers/lamers are starting to gain acces to our private paradise!

DruBo · March 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Loc Dog @ Mar. 05 2002,21:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">#### BOB!!!

molecular ist ein amerikanisches Schwein. Er kann Hund #### essen und kann auf meinem großen testicles saugen, wenn er die deutsche Sprache nicht mag.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Translation:
"<expletive> bob!

Moleculor is an american pig. He can eat dog <poop> and suck on my large testicles if he does not like the german language."

yeah, I'd say he read the "no posting in foreign languages" part of the faq. Also, he probably reads and understands english.

-'bozo, "l33t tr@n$l@t0r d00d"

CyonPro · March 2002

Boy, that is something really special.

Kudos to LocDog for being a ****** ***** ** **** **** ****** ****** ** ****.

Flayra · March 2002

Buh-bye Loc Dog. Sorry I was slow to catch this guys.

Moleculor · March 2002

And sorry I wasn't around to catch it. I stayed up talking to a friend till 6 AM last night.

Flayra · March 2002

Opened again by request.

Gasfiend · March 2002

every now and then Flayras Mighty Hand of Silencing can be used to Smite someone from the face of the Earth to good effect...though slow in reacting, i still must commend on removing Loc Doc, and removing his pointless threads. Grrr, stupid system abusers....
Gasfiend
Commending the Police to Gain Political "Favors"

Jedisar · March 2002

I thought loc was funny <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> He wasn't good at insults <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

pielemuis · March 2002

bleh back to the topic now!
well i changed my opinion as it seems bob won't get any damage if he falls down, so i think the marines should be able to shoot bob down fairly easily

Shuvit_Viper · March 2002

but then he must not be too easy to be seen...

Kassinger · March 2002

One thing I'm curious about. How come the moderators censured the german version but leaves the <i>english translation there for all to see?</i>

DrunkenBozo is a great guy (especially after he offered to send me a zip file I really needed <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>) and his intentions were probably good and everything, but I still don't think the english translation of Loc dog should be there.

Well, anyway, back on topic.

As Bob has so little health anyway and depends on being a sneaky type of guy, he'd probably be dead if he was seen to early anyway. <u>But you could still make him fall down AFTER he is dead, that would be a very nice effect which would help to immersive players.</u>

Note: I use that immersive players argument on everything really cool I would like to have in this game. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

the_stalker · March 2002

i hate that bullet slowing down, what about not able to shoot on ladders? you cant do that on dod, and should have animation line on wolfenstien

Moleculor · March 2002

Well, if Bob is 'hooking' into walls with his claws, which is what helps him climb and stick to walls and ceilings, then there is probably a good chance that he'll be able to hold on, or at least I'd like to think that whatever force or method he uses to stick to the walls will let him stay there while he's getting shot.

Plus it'll be annoying to get knocked off every time someone shot you. But I definitely like the idea of Bob falling off when he dies.

Falling bob

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