Pornography
Grendel
All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
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<div class="IPBDescription">The PC never emotionally blackmails</div> <a href='http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/trends/n_9437/index.html' target='_blank'>Why should I need more than a uterus to get a date?</a>
Aging feminist whines about how sexual liberation has meant that crabby hags with hairy armpits can't manipulate men. Can't automatically guarantee the opposite sex will want to sleep with you anymore? Welcome to the world of men making less than £30,000 a year, ****.
Ha ha. Owned by Porn.
Aging feminist whines about how sexual liberation has meant that crabby hags with hairy armpits can't manipulate men. Can't automatically guarantee the opposite sex will want to sleep with you anymore? Welcome to the world of men making less than £30,000 a year, ****.
Ha ha. Owned by Porn.
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there will always be someone to be jealous
I'm not really sure I agree. We've always felt like we had to compete with the girls in VS catalogues and such, but porn stars? I've never felt that pressure, and I certainly wouldn't want to, since most porn is such a silly, exaggerated version of sex anyway.
I've also seen evidence to the contrary - guys getting turned off by the world of plastic surgery and layers upon layers of makeup. More and more, I hear guys say that boobs are too big instead of too small, faces too perfect instead of too blemished. The 'natural' look is coming somewhat into fashion, I guess?
Its been the fashion for anyone who wants more outta life than fleeting, false, media propagated 'attraction'. The natural look has always been 'stunning' or some such thing. Personally, i've never been as turned off with women and those with plastic bodies and caked on makeup. When the clothes come off, it rarely looks as good as you thought it would.
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Damn all those abercrombie and fitch models. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I know I've got it set as my wallpaper <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sorry couldn't resist ...
In my opionion, this article is wrong ... but I can only apply it to myself as I have no idea if other men see women as not being "good looking" enough ... And quite frankly I don't care what they look like, as long as they don't look like this --> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Personality kicks looks' bottom.
Porn is still evil, but for different reasons than previously thought.
If the article's author is right, I wonder if child porn makes pedophiles less interested in sex with children.
Porn is still evil, but for different reasons than previously thought.
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don't go there. it's not the logical equivalent.
Porn is still evil, but for different reasons than previously thought.
If the article's author is right, I wonder if child porn makes pedophiles less interested in sex with children. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
don't go there. it's not the logical equivalent. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Okay, then I'll go somewhere else.
I wonder if simulated violence, such as what you find in many computer games, turns people off to real violence.
having read this article, i get the feeling that porn is being blamed for the changes in american lifestyle. sexual attractiveness is important in society tdaoy. this is a huge discovery. let it be know that in ages past women didnot have to make themsleves attractive sexually. this is not to in any way support the side of plastic surgery. but saying tht porn is responsible for pubic hair styling is a bit odd. further to blame it for the decline in "exchange value", to use her borrowed term, of sex is unfathomable. if one looks at both of the above "trends", which i am not sure exist(it would be intersting to see if th actual market value of sex has changed apprecialby in the last few centuries), these could also be a side effect of the sexual "revolution" of the 1960s. is it odd that unmarried women take time ina sexually active society to take steps that supposedly make them more sexiually attractive while those of the married older generation dont? i infer that the older women are stereotyped as maried by the use of phrases such as "our husbands" etc.
further, her definition of porn and mine seem to be vastly out of synch i cannot even imagine the scandal that would be casued if a something i consider porn was displayed in times square. and perhaps this is root of my problem with this article. i cannot even begin to fathom thinking that a person who cannot even show her hair to some one other than her husband would feel hot.
finally, the mystery of sex isnt taken away bby porn i thought that was public high school. im talking in class. sex isnt some magical mystery in the modern world. we learned about it in biology even in freaking health class. in none of those areas did we view porn. i see society change portrayed as porn but it could just be be.
and as an end note being sexy isnt about being a blonde chick with huge boobs. at least for me. further if you think that any guy in the world wont notice that you spent a few grand on surgery you have another thing coming. if you are insecure enough to want surgery just think of how insecure you will be when they guy eyeing you from across teh bar is cheching out something you bought at the doctors office. enjoy
however to adress
While we're on the subject of husbands and hair, did anyone else find this illogical:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->“Only my husband,” she said with a calm sexual confidence, “ever gets to see my hair.”<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Her husband never even sees another woman’s hair.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hint: it's only logical if you assume that all women her husband sees hide their hair like she does.
I'm a sixteen-year old male and I look at porn. A lot. As in, at least once a day. It hasn't changed my view of all women very much. If anything, it has helped me to realize that women have needs, too. All of those orgasms, even faked, still send the message: "Women have orgasms, too. It's not just you."
Personally, I can't stand the porn star look. Most blondes turn me off. Tans turn me off. Large breasts usually turn me off. (With a few exceptions.) Completely shaved pubic hair turns me off sometimes. There are definitely more guys like me, I'm sure, so I don't think they have to worry too much. ;P
The first page is all crap. It's just a rant against men who don't want old women and like sex. The second page makes a good point: there is a strong demystification of sex in Western culture. I wouldn't blame porn for it though.
Put a cute naked girl next to a computer with a ton of porn, the girl will win everytime.
I'm a sixteen-year old male and I look at porn. A lot. As in, at least once a day. It hasn't changed my view of all women very much. If anything, it has helped me to realize that women have needs, too. All of those orgasms, even faked, still send the message: "Women have orgasms, too. It's not just you."
Personally, I can't stand the porn star look. Most blondes turn me off. Tans turn me off. Large breasts usually turn me off. (With a few exceptions.) Completely shaved pubic hair turns me off sometimes. There are definitely more guys like me, I'm sure, so I don't think they have to worry too much. ;P <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Quoted for truth SQAURED.
Truth is, I've never seen a man turn down a girl based on the fact that porn is easier, INFACT, it's my impression that using porn is a desperate bid to help the old pipe cleaning take place. You can do that without porn though, it's all in the imagination. Even though i'd much prefer some romance over lust...
Yes, what's the norm of the society, will be taught trough generation, and thus the choice will be affected/tainted. But hey, that's it with everything <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> And quite frankly, freedom balances it nicely.
[As long as it dont negatively impact society]
However, if there is no girl available, a man is going to masturbate. He is going to fantasize about one of two things: a recent sexual experience or something he desires to happen to him. Porn takes the fantasy portion away and replaces it with images of people in various sexual situations. It is a masturbatory <i>enhancer</i>. Masturbation causes pornography to exist, not the other way around.
Now, what is all of this talk about "only beautiful, perfect, fake" porn stars? The best stuff out there is simply cute, average to thin looking girls having sex. Women think that they're competing with the most beautiful women on the planet, and they have it completely wrong. In fact, I'd say that porn is more damaging to male self esteem due to some of the amazingly huge phalluses that we guys see in porn. Half of it is film tricks, but the harm is done before we even get to think about it.
However, the real problem that American culture has with porn, stems from our same problems with alcohol and recreational drug use. We have a "prohibitionist streak" in our culture that is most often against these kind of things. And, of course, we revolt against this by using porn, drugs, and alcohol to the point where they either cease to stimulate us or until we are consumed by them. See the problem here? Porn is the new crack because we make it into crack.
Just look at the environment that teenagers grow in: the message from all sides is "all or none." They either get drunk every weekend and have sex with more people than they could ever remember while tripping on god knows how many pills, or they stay home and be "good kids." Where's the balanced viewpoint? Where's the voice of reason that is saying "alcohol isn't bad, you just need to be cool about it." We're obsessed with these "vices" because we treat them like they're evils that are meant for regulation and control.
So, perhaps if we stopped "obsessing," for the most part this issue might resolve itself.