The Keyboard Topic

Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription"><3 for your favorite keyboard</div> My favorite is the IBM model M keyboard.

For those unfortunate enough to not know, the IBM model M is a keyboard using a buckling spring style actuator for each single key. It's that old clicky IBM keyboard that lacks evil windows keys, has great tactile feel and each button provides a satisfying *click* when pressed. The components are housed in a really hard plastic shell and they are known for their durabillity. There are people who are still using their original model M keyboard that they purchased alongside that 386 in the 80's. It seems to be either people hate 'those old clicky keyboards' or they love them with no inbetween. When I got into computers the model M was out of fashion and I never had one of my own, I did have the opportunity to use one on a few occassions and it has a truly awesome feel. Today, after much searching I managed to locate 2 of them with a Swedish keyboard layout, never opened and in their original box for not a whole lot of money. They where of a newer version, from '97, they have the same clicky feel according to teh interweb, built in drainage channels for fluid(<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->) and they come with a detachable PS/2 cord, the chassis and cord are only average in this newer model and not as heavy duty as the original version, but no matter I bought 2 of them. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Today's keyboards generally use a big mushy rubber pad where each button is located above a rubber dome attached to a rubber sheet. When a key is pressed the rubber dome provides resistance so that the key will not just fall down by gravity alone. The Rubber dome buckles and presses against a switch of some kind. On my current keyboard the switch is 3 layers of plastic with circuits printed on the top and bottom layers and the middle layer having holes over each key, so when you press a key hard enough it brings the connectors of the 2 layers into contact, from having been sepparated by a distance of the thickness of the middle layer. It's a cheap and easy to massproduce design, but an actual switch for each key that provides much larger initial resistance to prevent accidentally happening into a key and provides tactile and audible feedback the instant the key is depressed is a much different and IMO much better design.

So how about you, do you prefer the mushy and silent keyboards. Ergonomic freaks of nature that force you to press keys at least as hard as the last time so that if you smash a key it simply won't work again for 10 minutes unless you stomp on the key, laptop style slime keyboards which are only slightly mushy and only require to be depressed a very short distance, buckling spring clicky keyboards or something else entirely?
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  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    Gotta love my 5 year old Dell keyboard, in black.

    It has been burned, melted, shanked, stabbed, bashed, thrown against a wall, thrown across the room, milk spilled in it, and thrown in a bathtub, and still works. I love it to death.
  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    I dont have a fav, I go threw keyboards like candy...either break by spilling **** in them or yeh wahtever... i just got sick of them..
    yes im a spoiled rich pecker
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    I use my 6 year old keyboard. It dosnt even have a logo on it or anything...hmmm <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Cherry Black. Done.
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'm using some over-priced keyboard from PC World now as I left mine at my parents when I moved... However it has springed keys instead of the rubber nipple efforts. Nothing like the old IBM keyboards but still it feels nicer than the "squishy" ones.
  • marcemarce Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30869Members
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Lemmy see, Iv got my bog standard dell one for my extra PC, my glowing blue keyboard (but that makes a high ptiched noise <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). Both are cool but I tried one of those zBoard things at my mates house and I just dont like em, so ill stick to my glowy keyboard and maby my dell one incase something goes wrong since the keys are flatter.
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    <img src='http://img137.exs.cx/img137/810/musicalkeyboard8iu.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    Eh any normal PS/2 keyboard will do xD, I'm working on some beige PS/2 Compaq keyboard atm.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I likes my ultraslim mushy keyboard. Keyboards are supposed to rest flat on the table, not stand half upright like some of those behemoths do. But Logitech, please: You assign weird functions to all the function keys. Then you make an F-lock button, which, when activated, reverts all of the function keys to their normal use (so that my useless "Open Document"-button becomes a plain ol' F1-button again). That's all well and good. But, please, there's a reason why you can have Numlock activated by default when you boot up the computer. That same reason applies to your F-lock button, only the factory default is "off" and there's no way to change it. H8.
  • SandstormSandstorm Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21205Members
    I miss my large PC/AT 101 keyboard, which I had with my 286. It had the large 5 pin connector (not the little PS/2 one), though I eventually had to get one of those adapters. It also had the nice dark gray color you don't see much of anymore.

    The 286 case is at least as large as a full-size tower, though I think the 286 case is a little larger. You can recognize them by the giant red switch that sticks out of the right side of the case, if you ever see them in a museum or junkyard. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Anyways, now I'm using a "KeyTronic" keyboard. It's got those useless "Windows" keys near the Ctrl and Alt keys. At least it isn't USB.
  • kuperayekuperaye Join Date: 2003-03-14 Member: 14519Members, Constellation
    i think Saitek Made the most comfortable Keyboard EVER

    Saitek Pc Gamer KB
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    I don't have a favorite keyboard, but my favorite mouse was the Mouseman Wheel... But the the button stopped function properly after too much CS playing, and I couldn't find any other good mice. I eventually discovered the Optical MouseMan Wheel (Not-Cordless). Same shape as my beautiful deceased mouse, but optical. It is god. I don't really understand why they stopped making this shape of mouse.

    I actually bought two so that if this one breaks I'll have a backup mouse.
  • tuemmykidstuemmykids Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20884Members
    I have a nice black Dell keyboard, without any of those extra buttons you can get now. I don't see the point in them, the keyboard would just take up too much space. The first computer I had was a Pentium 1, so I don't know if those keyboards you're all talking about are really so awesome. Anyway, to me all keyboards are basically the same, but Mice are different. I have a MX-510 and it's really awesome compared to the old ball mouse I had before.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    My keyboard is a nice beige, ash covered, nicotine stained, compaq keyboard with a US layout.

    It cost £2.

    I win. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • tuemmykidstuemmykids Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20884Members
    Oh yeah? Mine didn't cost me anything! I got it from a friend <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    My DELL P-3 450mhz that is older than dirt has a rock solid beige keyboard and ALL the letters still show on the keyboard! My CyberPower AMD 2200 that is 2-1/2 years old is one helluva computer BUT, it came with a $5.00 silver/black piece of crap keyboard. /methinx about bringin the ugly (but uber) DELL keyboard over here ... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    Logitech one that came with the Mx900

    Wireless keyboard = win
    The coolermaster one is nice too.
    although I don't like the Zboard (be it DOOM3, WoW or whatever) mainly because when i play fps games, i use the numpad, keys 2,4,6,8 for movement, not 4,5,6,8, as would be usual, therefore, this keyboard is useless for me.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    edited January 2005
    <img src='http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/5606.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    This baby. The mouse that comes with it is safely discarded in favor of an Mx series wireless, but the keyboard: oh boy, does it rock. Super duper clickity keys with real tactile feedback, sleek design, seperate numpad which is also a calculator a thermometer and a calendar/clock, and a media control pad on both the keyboard and the numpad which lets me control Winamp without losing focus on the program I'm in the middle of. I could jump to a random track while typing this message!
  • tuemmykidstuemmykids Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20884Members
    You can jump to random tracks in winamp with a normal keyboard too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. I have it bound to page up and page down by me.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Jan 17 2005, 06:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Jan 17 2005, 06:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Gotta love my 5 year old Dell keyboard, in black.

    It has been burned, melted, shanked, stabbed, bashed, thrown against a wall, thrown across the room, milk spilled in it, and thrown in a bathtub, and still works. I love it to death. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I liked mine a lot too, but my dad spilled coffee on it. Fried immediately. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • 0blique0blique Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16477Members
    I like the keytronics keyboards, but some of the really old keyboards are also pretty nice too. I have about 3 different keytronics, and I like them a lot better than some of the stuff I see in stores today. I don't like the mushy keyboards and I really don't like the "ergonomic" ones that are split in half. And for some reason, I don't like the ones with the extra keys to control volume or to start IE or WMP, but I can't really explain why.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    Sup

    <img src='http://www.tomshardware.com/game/20031108/images/img_3726.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    The lighting up isn't that useful, but just looks cool. Unluckily there aren't any stands on this either, so I just use some random cardboard to prop it up.

    I used to have one of those IBM keyboards as well that clicked, but it just started to malfunction like crazy a couple months ago.
  • 0blique0blique Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16477Members
    I can't see the picture. Can you post/host it instead?
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    Yay for image shack

    <img src='http://img123.exs.cx/img123/3140/img37269jm.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    My keyboard is a nice cheap 'Cheetah' one...it cost £1.09 from ebuyer. It is pretty awful, but for the price it isn't that bad.
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    Mine's an old Hewlett Packard. I need a black one now, to match my black case and soon-to-be black monitor.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited January 2005
    I love my <a href='http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:6Nt-xsRZMVIJ:www.vtama.com/shopu/souldout/ibmkb9910/DSCF0010.jpg' target='_blank'>IBM KB-9910</a>.

    As you no doubt guessed from its boring name, its a bare-bones keyboard. Square, and with none of those useless fancy crap buttons that get in the way. And a PS/2 connection, because it just feels more natural and responsive when playing FPS games than crappy USB keyboards.

    The way God intended a keyboard to be.

    This one is 2 or 3 years old, and the one I had before that (same exact one) lasted even longer, however it unfortunately met its end due to a Dr. Pepper spill (a very rare occurance around me, who worships every drop of thy holy liquid). I don't know what I'll do if anything ever happens to this one because apparently IBM no longer makes them, and nobody else has the brains to make a keyboard w/o 10 jillion extra keys on it...

    If your keyboard needs drivers, it sucks. Fin.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Plus, if you use a PS/2 keyboard, you can turn on CrashOnCtrlScroll. Fun for debugging, or messing with your friends!

    <a href='http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;244139' target='_blank'>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;en-us;244139</a>

    (insert MS hatez0r standard joke about not needing a special registry value to do this).
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
  • InvaznInvazn Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27142Members
    MY keyboard is some kind of IBM one. Has some weird Lotus buttons, that i have never seen used, and Aptiva key too.
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