What's Your Input?

PsYcHo1PsYcHo1 Join Date: 2005-01-24 Member: 37934Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Mouse Woes</div> Hi guys,

I was recently kicked from a server because they thought i was hacking. (Because I killed a JP in mid-air with fade.)

I then explained to them that I use my mouse wheel to switch between blink and slash. An admin then told me to stop using my mousewheel. (My own freaking hardware.)
Being the smart-a$$ I am, I told him "NO", he then kicked me.

Now do any of you think that using the mousewheel is and exploit? I personally don't think so.

Thanks,
Mike
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  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    There is abolutely nothing wrong with the mousewheel. Bind any command you like to it.

    Nub admin. Bad server. Move along.
  • TrakenTraken Join Date: 2004-11-14 Member: 32797Members
    The only time I frown upon the mousewheel is Bunnyhopping and pistol shooting.

    But switching weapons? That's a new one. If the admin is that "noob"-ish than I wouldn't play there.
  • FragtasticFragtastic Join Date: 2004-09-04 Member: 31321Members
    edited January 2005
    I would say there nothing is wrong with what your doing.

    Earlier today while I was flying around on my JP and I was killed by a fade <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • PsYcHo1PsYcHo1 Join Date: 2005-01-24 Member: 37934Members
    Ok thanks for the fast answers.
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Traken+Jan 24 2005, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Traken @ Jan 24 2005, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only time I frown upon the mousewheel is Bunnyhopping and pistol shooting. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah we need mp_blockmwheel. That'll teach those evil exploiters !
  • Gerald_R_FordGerald_R_Ford Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22544Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-obuh+Jan 24 2005, 05:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ Jan 24 2005, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Traken+Jan 24 2005, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Traken @ Jan 24 2005, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only time I frown upon the mousewheel is Bunnyhopping and pistol shooting. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah we need mp_blockmwheel. That'll teach those evil exploiters ! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    for real man, i hate how people abuse what is given to them. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    funny excuse for a kick considering the mousewheel is set to weapon changing by default... but i agree with obuh, move along.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only time I frown upon the mousewheel is Bunnyhopping and pistol shooting.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    what don't you frown upon, then? god. if BINDS are starting to be considered exploitive/lame then i guess it's time for this community to die. besides, mwheel bound to +attack is bad (at least to me) because it throws your aim off.
  • Black_Hawk_VSBlack_Hawk_VS Join Date: 2003-03-13 Member: 14478Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the mouse wheel bound to change weapons by default anyways? (I know you probaly have it bound specifically to blink and swipe, but that is not much different)


    lol. sorry, I missed your post TOmekki. You already said it
  • d0omied0omie Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13877Members
    I don't see why anyone with half a brain is against weapon changing scipts. I used to use one for fade/skulk where pressing "e" would switch to slot2/3 and then attack, then lastinv. But it was too slow and laggy really. I find binding q to slot1, mouse2 to slot2 and e to slot3 is much better. Both faster and more accurate. Get a lot more leap/bites and accusaitons of "scripting" than I did when I used a "script" (if a fireslot_X bind can be called a "script")
  • TrakenTraken Join Date: 2004-11-14 Member: 32797Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jan 24 2005, 06:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jan 24 2005, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what don't you frown upon, then? god. if BINDS are starting to be considered exploitive/lame then i guess it's time for this community to die. besides, mwheel bound to +attack is bad (at least to me) because it throws your aim off. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It does sort of throw off aim but still is cheap IMO. Sort of like DPB. Everyone has +fire bound to the mwheel and it is extremely difficult to be competitive without doing the same.

    Also, I guess my brain doesn't get the connection between Roll a wheel and pull a trigger...
  • Guardian1Guardian1 Join Date: 2003-09-14 Member: 20853Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-!PsYcHo+Jan 24 2005, 02:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (!PsYcHo @ Jan 24 2005, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Now do any of you think that using the mousewheel is and exploit? I personally don't think so.

    Thanks,
    Mike <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Using the wheel for whatever should be fine as long as you bound it in the menu. I'd say that the admin was being a bit harsh, but it IS his server. Best not to play there if you don't like the rules.
  • MrRadicalEdMrRadicalEd Turrent Master Join Date: 2004-08-13 Member: 30601Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Guardian1+Jan 24 2005, 08:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Guardian1 @ Jan 24 2005, 08:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-!PsYcHo+Jan 24 2005, 02:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (!PsYcHo @ Jan 24 2005, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Now do any of you think that using the mousewheel is and exploit? I personally don't think so.

    Thanks,
    Mike <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Using the wheel for whatever should be fine as long as you bound it in the menu. I'd say that the admin was being a bit harsh, but it IS his server. Best not to play there if you don't like the rules. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    menu or not it makes no difference.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> It's totaly fine..
  • FirewaterFirewater Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
    Playon the armslab server, you'll never be banned for being skilled.

    <a href='http://www.nsarmslab.com' target='_blank'>http://www.nsarmslab.com</a>
  • intensityrisingintensityrising Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23148Members
    I played there and I got yelled at for being skilled.
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    NSA admins always tell me people complain I aim bot but they know me well enough to laugh at those people. Its a good server, although I prefer scrims over pubs any day.
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    edited January 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-intensityrising+Jan 24 2005, 11:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (intensityrising @ Jan 24 2005, 11:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I played there and I got yelled at for being skilled. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    We can't stop people from spamming all the time (Though we try <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->), but if he's really becoming a nuisance, come onto our teamspeak and get an admin.

    And yes, I agree with obuh. Move along to a new server. Not mentioning any names here *cough* signature *cough*
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jan 24 2005, 07:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jan 24 2005, 07:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> god. if BINDS are starting to be considered exploitive/lame then i guess it's time for this community to die. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hehehe.

    Anyone who does something better or faster than me is a lamer don't you get it ?!
  • OtsOts Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18577Members, Constellation
    Sounds like a german server.
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    Wow. Just wow. PM me the server's name, I want this information badly. Thrown off for mousewheel binds. I just.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Traken+Jan 24 2005, 08:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Traken @ Jan 24 2005, 08:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jan 24 2005, 06:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jan 24 2005, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what don't you frown upon, then? god. if BINDS are starting to be considered exploitive/lame then i guess it's time for this community to die.  besides, mwheel bound to +attack is bad (at least to me) because it throws your aim off. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It does sort of throw off aim but still is cheap IMO. Sort of like DPB. Everyone has +fire bound to the mwheel and it is extremely difficult to be competitive without doing the same.

    Also, I guess my brain doesn't get the connection between Roll a wheel and pull a trigger... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i have my mousewheel bound to +jump in all classes. i have tried mwheel pistol and it sucks imo, but i have no problems with people using it. its personal preference.

    and you can definitely go competetive without ANY scripts, especially in europe where most games are played with bs_1.
  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-obuh+Jan 24 2005, 05:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ Jan 24 2005, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah we need mp_blockmwheel. That'll teach those evil exploiters ! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lawl
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    There are retarded admins on a lot of servers. Just ignore them and move along <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    This is a joke yes? he throws you of the server for using a MOUSEWEEL?

    jeez. >_<
  • SuitePeeSuitePee Join Date: 2004-11-18 Member: 32857Members
    ........................(laughs) <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    I can't wait for the day an admin decides 'cloaking' is an exploit and bans me for it. Cos I'm a goddamn serial CO cloaker. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    If noob admins are going to be petty like that,they might as well ban shotguns as well,cos I see them as camping exploit and generally stupid. (sacrasm please note)
    Move on,find a better server. Admin's money loss.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SuitePee+Jan 25 2005, 10:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuitePee @ Jan 25 2005, 10:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ........................(laughs) :)
    I can't wait for the day an admin decides 'cloaking' is an exploit and bans me for it. Cos I'm a goddamn serial CO cloaker. :) ::skulk:: <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i hope you grow up from that phase of nsplaying before the server admins get around being retarted enough to ban people from using game features... oh, they already do.
  • SDJasonSDJason Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16841Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Traken+Jan 24 2005, 08:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Traken @ Jan 24 2005, 08:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jan 24 2005, 06:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jan 24 2005, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what don't you frown upon, then? god. if BINDS are starting to be considered exploitive/lame then i guess it's time for this community to die.  besides, mwheel bound to +attack is bad (at least to me) because it throws your aim off. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It does sort of throw off aim but still is cheap IMO. Sort of like DPB. Everyone has +fire bound to the mwheel and it is extremely difficult to be competitive without doing the same.

    Also, I guess my brain doesn't get the connection between Roll a wheel and pull a trigger... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First off... i have my mousewheel bound to switch weapons.... however ive noticed one idiotic thing that hasnt been fixed yet...
    Even with HUD_fastswitch on.... one direction of mousewheel will insta switch weapons, while the other you still have to click to make it switch....(i actually think i have it bound backwards (up is previous, down is next) so that one flick down of the wheel whips out my pistol....

    Another thing.....Even using my mousewheel to fire my pistol, i find that i roll it too fast, thereby hitting the pistol fire limit, and not firing/skipping shots,and haveing not all 10 shots fire before i ahve to reposition my finger to roll it again (i know some people bind both directions to fire, however i leave down as fastswitch weapons and up to fire so i can still click it 2 notches and whip out my lmg again......

    Id rather use Mouse1 to fire, i can click pretty fast, but theres no point unloading those precious 10 pistol shots unless you are going to hit.... i cant clikc the full 5 shots per second, but i dont need to, i just aim click aim click aim click, and you know what, i land a lot more shots, even if they dont shoot as fast, im sure i land more hits per second.... to the point where im confident enough with my pistol to use it first about 50 percent of the time... I leave the lmg for spraying around at my feet at the skulk biting me.....

    Meh.. as i play more and more i dont even like using mwheel down to switch weapons anymore, as that slight movement will mess my aim slightly, AS does mwheel up, another reason i dont like using it..... Instead i have kp_1 bound to lmg and kp_0 bound to pistol.... i use the arrow keys this allows me to quickly mash the big 0 key and pistol something, then mash the 1 key (both close to the directional keys to quickly change weapons... Ironically 0 is blink and 1 is swipe (as fade) making that much freakin easier too... screw scripts... i can excecute a blink swipe perfectly.....

    In ending.... the mouswheel sucks (or maybe mine just does, it never fires 10 shots in a steady stream) Even if its perfect... i find that while rolling the mouswheel i cnat aim as well, so only like 3-5 hit, leaving that bastard skulk with 10 hp to bite my **** down

    ~Jason
  • zodiakzodiak Join Date: 2004-10-30 Member: 32528Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-!PsYcHo+Jan 24 2005, 10:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (!PsYcHo @ Jan 24 2005, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I then explained to them that I use my mouse wheel to switch between blink and slash. An admin then told me to stop using my mousewheel. (My own freaking hardware.)
    Being the smart-a$$ I am, I told him "NO", he then kicked me.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You mean you use a mouse?

    HACKER!!!!!!!!!111111 <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    I have a terrible terrible confession to make.

    I use a +$50 Logitech MX510 optical mouse. It has a mouse4 and mouse5 button. Other people do not have this mouse, or these functions.

    . ' . , I am using technology to exploit NS. I'm sorry. I never knew.

    [crying]

    [a gunshot]
  • PsYcHo1PsYcHo1 Join Date: 2005-01-24 Member: 37934Members
    LMAO thanks guys, here's the argument they put up.

    <a href='http://www.ctsclan.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26608' target='_blank'>http://www.ctsclan.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26608</a>
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    edited January 2005
    My input: They are a bunch of children, find a new server and remove theirs from the Master Server List just so you never see it again.

    By the way what's the IP to their NS server. If I find time i'll destroy a few people for you heh.
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