The Real Reason Why Suprnova Shut Down
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This thread is about the selling out of the Bit Torrent Community, the eXeem project of Andrej "Sloncek" Preston and the blindness of the former community.
Suprnova.org was known by other sites as the leeching site. Would list trackers, but had none of their own. Was the largest online "lister" of torrent files. Suprnova.org made some big $$$ in the last year. Sure server cost are high, but when you have 1 million views a day...
Sloncek(which when translated means little elephant), has sold out the BT community. Shutting down suprnova.org, only to suppliment it with HIS software. Software that uses Cydoor, a really nasty spyware/adware app. All of this, to make money. He is selling out the BT community to make money off of the n00bs and the unsuspecting. Most users where not aware that the suprnova site used Cydoor to advertise with either. Although it is unclear how much money from Cydoor, and other adverts he has made, it is a large sum of money.
The problem with eXeem is that it is not DE-CENTRALIZED like Sloncek wants you to believe, it requires users to leave their eXeem open, so that they can become Super-Nodes. Even if you are not uploading or downloading, eXeem requires you to leave it open so it can bounce, or store info on your machine. More profit for Sloncek, and more traffic on your internet connection. Without users having to leave eXeem open, the whole eXeem network comes to a screeching halt.
eXeem is a flawed P2P app, that is all hype, and alot of BAD code. The hype comes from suprnovaforums.net, they meeting ground of all the former supernova admins, mods and sloncek himself.
On those forums, some interesting stuff goes on behind the scenes. Recently, since the close of the real suprnova.org, there has been alot of in-fighting between the staff. Those who support Sloncek, and those who don't. The supporters of Sloncek are quick to lock threads when anyone has anything negative to say about eXeem or Sloncek. Some even hype up eXeem. The rest of the remaining staff and high-end users are hanging around suprnovaforums.net to help the n00bs, and make sure people get alittle educated about what is happening. They may be limited on the forums, but highly involved on irc and chat systems.
Sloncek has done some interesting stuff to hide himself from the BT Community. In an interview with NovaRadio, Sloncek has made it seem as if he was hired by some other company to oversee and promote eXeem. But, in reality, that company is OWNED by Sloncek himself. He has friends who are coding the software basically for free. Those friends are doing it for the P2P community no doubt. And their is no doubt, that once released to the public withing the next few days as a public beta, Sloncek will be reaping the cash rewards.
Suprnova.org was shut down by Sloncek, with no pressure at all from outside sources. The legal aspect of torrent sites is yet to be decided. But Sloncek, seeing that he might be in a speck of trouble, tucked his tail between his legs, and started some new project to make money. Lokkitorrents is standing its ground, and fighting the MPAA on the legal aspect. And other sites should come to their side. Alas, other sites have not. And, it's a fact, that many other sites have closed up because of Slonceks say. No, they did not get served papers from the MPAA, they got a message from Sloncek.
The BT community won't die, or go away, but that does not mean that Sloncek hasn't done major wrongs to it. In all, this article is about the selling out of a huge part of the BT community. Legal aspect aside, someone has done something wrong. That person has wronged hundreds of thousands of BT users, and is looking to do it again. So, stay alert out there BT community...
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i figured this was quasi-open knowledge, but i saw someone talking about using exeem in another thread and remembered this. also this is in no way promoting the use of warez, or showing how to get them. suprnova is shut down now, and this is a warning against using exeem. also from what i know, this is all rumors and speculation, but to me it does make sense.
if this is in some way against rules, feel freem for mods to lock/delete/whatever this thread.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This thread is about the selling out of the Bit Torrent Community, the eXeem project of Andrej "Sloncek" Preston and the blindness of the former community.
Suprnova.org was known by other sites as the leeching site. Would list trackers, but had none of their own. Was the largest online "lister" of torrent files. Suprnova.org made some big $$$ in the last year. Sure server cost are high, but when you have 1 million views a day...
Sloncek(which when translated means little elephant), has sold out the BT community. Shutting down suprnova.org, only to suppliment it with HIS software. Software that uses Cydoor, a really nasty spyware/adware app. All of this, to make money. He is selling out the BT community to make money off of the n00bs and the unsuspecting. Most users where not aware that the suprnova site used Cydoor to advertise with either. Although it is unclear how much money from Cydoor, and other adverts he has made, it is a large sum of money.
The problem with eXeem is that it is not DE-CENTRALIZED like Sloncek wants you to believe, it requires users to leave their eXeem open, so that they can become Super-Nodes. Even if you are not uploading or downloading, eXeem requires you to leave it open so it can bounce, or store info on your machine. More profit for Sloncek, and more traffic on your internet connection. Without users having to leave eXeem open, the whole eXeem network comes to a screeching halt.
eXeem is a flawed P2P app, that is all hype, and alot of BAD code. The hype comes from suprnovaforums.net, they meeting ground of all the former supernova admins, mods and sloncek himself.
On those forums, some interesting stuff goes on behind the scenes. Recently, since the close of the real suprnova.org, there has been alot of in-fighting between the staff. Those who support Sloncek, and those who don't. The supporters of Sloncek are quick to lock threads when anyone has anything negative to say about eXeem or Sloncek. Some even hype up eXeem. The rest of the remaining staff and high-end users are hanging around suprnovaforums.net to help the n00bs, and make sure people get alittle educated about what is happening. They may be limited on the forums, but highly involved on irc and chat systems.
Sloncek has done some interesting stuff to hide himself from the BT Community. In an interview with NovaRadio, Sloncek has made it seem as if he was hired by some other company to oversee and promote eXeem. But, in reality, that company is OWNED by Sloncek himself. He has friends who are coding the software basically for free. Those friends are doing it for the P2P community no doubt. And their is no doubt, that once released to the public withing the next few days as a public beta, Sloncek will be reaping the cash rewards.
Suprnova.org was shut down by Sloncek, with no pressure at all from outside sources. The legal aspect of torrent sites is yet to be decided. But Sloncek, seeing that he might be in a speck of trouble, tucked his tail between his legs, and started some new project to make money. Lokkitorrents is standing its ground, and fighting the MPAA on the legal aspect. And other sites should come to their side. Alas, other sites have not. And, it's a fact, that many other sites have closed up because of Slonceks say. No, they did not get served papers from the MPAA, they got a message from Sloncek.
The BT community won't die, or go away, but that does not mean that Sloncek hasn't done major wrongs to it. In all, this article is about the selling out of a huge part of the BT community. Legal aspect aside, someone has done something wrong. That person has wronged hundreds of thousands of BT users, and is looking to do it again. So, stay alert out there BT community...
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i figured this was quasi-open knowledge, but i saw someone talking about using exeem in another thread and remembered this. also this is in no way promoting the use of warez, or showing how to get them. suprnova is shut down now, and this is a warning against using exeem. also from what i know, this is all rumors and speculation, but to me it does make sense.
if this is in some way against rules, feel freem for mods to lock/delete/whatever this thread.
This discussion has been closed.
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The people hes 'selling out' are comprised of 99% freeloaders, so who cares?
Common sense too.
eXeem is without a doubt, the new Kazaa, and for something like p2p being the "common face" of "the scene", it's just cashing in on the ignorance of it's users.
Who cares really, it's just another piece of software i'm not gonna use.
man those supernova forums where getting a little tense though.
Hello? That's how BitTorrent works. Uploading even if you aren't downloading.
Ground floor for B/S please.
Loki even uploaded the letter in pdf format so people could download it..too big to attach here tho. and btw, not fake in any way.
Loki even uploaded the letter in pdf format so people could download it..too big to attach here tho. and btw, not fake in any way. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Let's play the 'Read the First Post' game. I'll start
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I'm saying this article is suss as hell.
People are overreacting about Cydoor. I've checked this out myself. It ONLY displays ads IN eXeem when eXeem is open. When eXeem is closed, <b>Cydoor stops running.</b> There is an optional toolbar thing that might display ads, I haven't installed that.
Besides, there's already eXeem Lite if you're worried.
People are overreacting about Cydoor. I've checked this out myself. It ONLY displays ads IN eXeem when eXeem is open. When eXeem is closed, <b>Cydoor stops running.</b> There is an optional toolbar thing that might display ads, I haven't installed that.
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spyware is spyware. no excuses
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Lokkitorrents is standing its ground, and fighting the MPAA on the legal aspect.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
AND the fact that i got the 15 page letter from the MPAA on my comp.
or is it something i dont get when Loki has got over 40,000$ so far in donation for the fight against the MPAA.
<a href='http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img68ℑ=lawsuit5mg.jpg' target='_blank'>http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img68ℑ=lawsuit5mg.jpg</a>
People are overreacting about Cydoor. I've checked this out myself. It ONLY displays ads IN eXeem when eXeem is open. When eXeem is closed, <b>Cydoor stops running.</b> There is an optional toolbar thing that might display ads, I haven't installed that.
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spyware is spyware. no excuses <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's not spyware, it's adware. -_- It doesn't have any unique identifier, it doesn't track what you search for and download, it doesn't track anything. It just. Displays. Ads.
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AND the fact that i got the 15 page letter from the MPAA on my comp.
or is it something i dont get when Loki has got over 40,000$ so far in donation for the fight against the MPAA.
<a href='http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img68ℑ=lawsuit5mg.jpg' target='_blank'>http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img68ℑ=lawsuit5mg.jpg</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Urgh... I know it's a real letter...
The original post said that instead of recieving a letter from the MPAA, they got a fake one from Sloncek pretending to be the MPAA and thus trying to get traffic for his program exeem.
Which is B/S because Lokitorrents has started a fund for their legal defense of their site, and why would anyone start a fund for something fake. Obviously Lokitorrents made contact with the MPAA, they came to loggerheads and now it is going to court. If it was a fake donation fund, a lot of people would probably be suing Lokitorrents instead.
Thus we can come to the conclusion that the first post's source is talking out of his arse at least as far as the 'fake letter' is concerned.
it used to be that you had o pay to join any of the decent places.
now they just extort $$ out of you <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And you know why I don't like the programs like Kazaa (and now exeem I guess)?
Virii.
A mass of stupid people sending and recieving files (often with out knowledge) is the perfect spot to release a Virus (many virii now spread specificly through Kazaa). It is programs like these that can shut down a network. (who has been on a college campus where 1/2 the retards there use kazaa? Better yet is when they install it on friken lab machines!)
And as <b>Necro</b> said:
<b>spyware is spyware. no excuses</b>
and definatly agree on your conclusion <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yup. Also, do you remember that rule about warez discussion?
<span style='color:red'>***Locked.***</span>