Firefox

ZephyrYHK

Im thinking about switching IE to firefox instead,

Is it any good? (pros/cons please w/o bias, please)

UZi

it's sex on a stick. and the stick is asian. you getting the idea?

AllUrHiveRblong2us

Opera kicks firefox in the nuts.

Alcapwn

Honestly: <b>YES</b>

99% of webpages work fine, tabbed browsin, uses MUCH less ram, Plugins, Safer.

Plus, you can transfer all your stuff from IE, like yoyr favorties etc too firefox very easily.

Only con i have noticed:

About 10% of websites have trouble streaming content to windows media player. No big deal though.

ThE_HeRo

<span style='color:white'>Nuked.</span>

DragonMech

Firefox is much better. It provides better protection against spyware and popups, and is less vulnerable in general to malware. It has many more features like tabbed browsing, an integrated download manager and is fully customizable with extensions. Plus, on the whole it's faster than IE.

FireFox > IE.

ZephyrYHK

Thanks for the reviews, guys.
Dling it now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

ThE_HeRo

<!--QuoteBegin-ZephyrYHK+Jan 31 2005, 04:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZephyrYHK @ Jan 31 2005, 04:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thanks for the reviews, guys.
Dling it now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
There's a bunch of plugins that I'd recommend to get, I think there's a thread about it somewhere... run a search for it.

I highly recommend the "Open this page in IE" plugin, because sometimes Firefox doesn't work well with steaming video, and some random pages don't like it. (very very few)

Alcapwn

<!--QuoteBegin-ZephyrYHK+Jan 31 2005, 04:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZephyrYHK @ Jan 31 2005, 04:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thanks for the reviews, guys.
Dling it now  <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
heheheh

Score one for the ff team.

<b>EDIT-</b> AHHH 999posts! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->

coris

<!--QuoteBegin-ZephyrYHK+Jan 31 2005, 10:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZephyrYHK @ Jan 31 2005, 10:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thanks for the reviews, guys.
Dling it now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Very good choice.
We need to take back the web from ms :[
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im_lost

For an extensive list of plugins, go to <a href='https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/?os=Windows&application=firefox/' target='_blank'>this page</a>. They are separated by different categories. I would recommend clicking on "All Extensions" on the left side to look at all of them, with a description. Or you can just look at the categories you are interested in. Personally, I think the Adblock extension is the best one you can get.

Vahn_Paktu

Mouse gestures are the best. I can't live without them now.

Vaaryys

<span style='color:white'>Snip.</span>

And yes Firefox indeed does own IE in just about every department. I couldn't live without tabbed browsing.

Svenpa

I would actualy recommend maxthon, the simpleness of IE and the goodys from firefox.

<a href='http://www.maxthon.com/en/index.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.maxthon.com/en/index.htm</a>

Legionnaired

<!--QuoteBegin-Vahn Paktu+Jan 31 2005, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vahn Paktu @ Jan 31 2005, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mouse gestures are the best. I can't live without them now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Quoted for truth.

Marik_Steele

I install Firefox on any machine where my account has installation priviledges and I expect to use it for more than 15 minutes.

[edit]Heheh, I just read my own post and remembered what my current sig is endorsing <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Jezpuh

Using huge images like that is the lose.

ANeM

<!--QuoteBegin-Svenpa+Jan 31 2005, 01:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Svenpa @ Jan 31 2005, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I would actualy recommend maxthon, the simpleness <b>[and SECURITY FLAWS]</b> of IE and the goodys* from firefox.

<a href='http://www.maxthon.com/en/index.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.maxthon.com/en/index.htm</a>

<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>*Security is not a goody</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fixed...
Maxthon is based on the IE engine, as such has, surprise surprise, many of the same security flaws as IE. Possibly why its previous name was "MyIE2" Its just ie, pretending to be something better.

DrSuredeath

I just couldn't get into mouse gesture.

Image Zoom on the other hands, I got spoiled.

I was frustrated when I browsed the web at the library, and realized I couldn't do the zoom in on their machines running only IE.

Svenpa

<!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Jan 31 2005, 10:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Jan 31 2005, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Svenpa+Jan 31 2005, 01:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Svenpa @ Jan 31 2005, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I would actualy recommend maxthon, the simpleness <b>[and SECURITY FLAWS]</b> of IE and the goodys* from firefox.

<a href='http://www.maxthon.com/en/index.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.maxthon.com/en/index.htm</a>

<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>*Security is not a goody</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fixed...
Maxthon is based on the IE engine, as such has, surprise surprise, many of the same security flaws as IE. Possibly why its previous name was "MyIE2" Its just ie, pretending to be something better. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mkay... Tried firefox it didn't want to play flash properly even with the plugin for it.

"Install macromedia flash player?" "yes" "Install done!"

"Play movie"

"Install macromedia flash player?" "yes" "Install done!"

Got me frustrated. If u know a solution for this tell me (havn't tried with latest version)

Marik_Steele

<!--QuoteBegin-Svenpa+Jan 31 2005, 05:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Svenpa @ Jan 31 2005, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [...]
Got me frustrated. If u know a solution for this tell me (havn't tried with latest version) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
In that case, guess what my first suggestion is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

I remember having similar troubles. They seemed to go away with the latest macromedia stuff and latest Firefox.

Zyndrome

Why is even IE considered as a web-browser, since it doesn't follow the w3-standards? It doesn't even parse CSS correctly! Microsoft never learns...

SkulkBait

<!--QuoteBegin-Vahn Paktu+Jan 31 2005, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vahn Paktu @ Jan 31 2005, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mouse gestures are the best. I can't live without them now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I seond that. I don't know how many times I've been browsing with IE at school and tried to close the page with a mouse gesture about 6 times before I remember why it isn't working.

DragonMech

<!--QuoteBegin-Zyndrome+Jan 31 2005, 04:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zyndrome @ Jan 31 2005, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why is even IE considered as a web-browser, since it doesn't follow the w3-standards? It doesn't even parse CSS correctly! Microsoft never learns... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pardon my nubbishness, but what eaxctly is CSS? I hear the term thrown around virtually every time an IE/Firefox war pops up.

Caboose

Cascading Style Sheets

Click on view source.

Everything between here:
<style type='text/css'>

And here:
</style>

is CSS

Nemesis_Zero

Personally, I prefer Opera to FF, but both are definetly and significantly superior to IE. I guess FF is the drug of choice for those not too interested in additional (read: bloating) features.

Caboose

<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jan 31 2005, 04:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 31 2005, 04:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Personally, I prefer Opera to FF, but both are definetly and significantly superior to IE. I guess FF is the drug of choice for those not too interested in additional (read: bloating) features. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I used Opera for a year or so before FF. One thing I miss about it is the superior tabbed browsing, the web pages were resizable inside the browser, and every page was automatically opened in a new tab if it called for opening in a new window.

I know there's a plugin to make all links open in a tab for FF, but the being able to cascade web pages inside the browser without making new windows was really nice.

Rapier7

I use FF, but I don't think it's leaps and bounds ahead of IE.

Tabbed browsing doesn't do much for me. Why not move your task bar up top and make pretend?

Maus

<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jan 31 2005, 11:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jan 31 2005, 11:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Cascading Style Sheets

Click on view source.

Everything between here:
<style type='text/css'>

And here:
</style>

is CSS <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is true, but they're much more useful than that would suggest.

The main function of a stylesheet is to simplify formatting a web page, basically collecting all of the formatting information into one place. For example, you could define your <p> tags in a stylesheet as being 10pt red verdana. Now every time you would use a <p> tag in your web page it would be 10 pt verdana and red, instead of you needing to mess with <font> tags etc.

In the majority of cases the stylesheet will be a separate file from the web page, that the web page can refer to. This lets someone writing a web site simply refer to the style sheet on each page, instead of having to tediously format every single page.

www.w3schools.org has a decent intro to CSS, but there might be simpler guides out there.

Nemesis_Zero

<!--QuoteBegin-Rapier7+Jan 31 2005, 10:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Jan 31 2005, 10:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tabbed browsing doesn't do much for me. Why not move your task bar up top and make pretend? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, for one thing, I don't clog my task bar with the up to ten UWE-site windows I have open at almost any time this way.

Alcapwn

<!--QuoteBegin-Svenpa+Jan 31 2005, 05:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Svenpa @ Jan 31 2005, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "Install macromedia flash player?" "yes" "Install done!"

"Play movie"

"Install macromedia flash player?" "yes" "Install done!"

Got me frustrated. If u know a solution for this tell me (havn't tried with latest version) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
...

You <b>did</b> restart the browser right? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->