Beta 6 News

todd1Oktodd1Ok Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28018Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">that will be music to your ears</div> that ladies and gents is a screenshot of one of the many many epic games i have played today, yesterday, day before....

epic games are now a regular occurance on jarhedz (constie server) shortest ive played was a 25 minute one. whether it's the higher than normal skill of the consties or the game finally reaching some sembelence of balance is up to you to decide. free alien upgrades have given the alien team the ability to break hive lockdowns, while simultaneously killing marine early game dominance. some of the map changes are truly, truly awesome, and i honestly cannot wait till we get to play b6 publicly.
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  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
    what a crock of ****
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  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    longer games, that sucks.
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  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    69:04...
    Kay...

    so that's 20 minutes of initial action, and 49:04 seconds of a slow death?
    These pictures do nothing to show us that B6 is any good.

    Nice score, though. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    I hope that the games stay longer like that when it gets to public play (as long as both sides have a realistic chance of winning for most of the game). Apparently not everyone likes that idea, though. They should play combat.
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  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    I've got one lol
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  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    long games were always great
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  • XenoXeno Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2343Members
    THANK THE LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    i just hope this transfers over to public games..........
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  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    Nice one NolSinkler. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    Why has that game been going 96 minutes, and the only marine upgrade is motion tracking?
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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Feb 12 2005, 06:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Feb 12 2005, 06:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hope that the games stay longer like that when it gets to public play (as long as both sides have a realistic chance of winning for most of the game).  Apparently not everyone likes that idea, though.  They should play combat. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't like longer games either, not becuase I don't like the games themselves, but because it's a freak occurence if they get to run their course without some ****wad deciding that it is 'lame' and they don't have time for this etc and drag a few newbs with them to the ready room so the game ends in a walk over. It's just so extremely frustrating to have a great game totally spoilt like that, I have a feeling I'm going to have to find some FF servers in the future so I can at least have the pleasure of ruining their game as a revenge if the admin is not there to ban their sorry behinds.
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  • typical_skeletontypical_skeleton Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13944Members
    Green's definitely got it all figured out. TKing people for F4ing, yeah... sounds like the smart/mature idea that'd make people appreciate NS even more.

    If it's a big server and enough of the people agree to F4 to cause the round to end, you were probably just going to end up a turtle anyway. Just start a new round and get on with it.
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  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Hmm todd, you believe that the games that will occur when B6 is public will be just like the current long private ones? Also, one big reason for the long private games right now is because aliens can't build a third hive...
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  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Feb 12 2005, 06:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Feb 12 2005, 06:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why has that game been going 96 minutes, and the only marine upgrade is motion tracking? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because they had just killed our arms lab.

    We then rebuilt it.

    /edit:

    The aliens can build a third hive, but not always. For example, earlier today, on eon, they couldn't drop a third hive (but still won). However, the next game on Tanith, we got the third hive up and won.
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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-comrade+Feb 12 2005, 06:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (comrade @ Feb 12 2005, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what a crock of **** <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Jeez, optimistic group we got here. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Feb 13 2005, 12:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Feb 13 2005, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why has that game been going 96 minutes, and the only marine upgrade is motion tracking? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Becuase the arms lab is down?
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  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    edited February 2005
    longer games....

    finally....

    you guys are really gonna please a lot of the older players (played ns longer and remeber the older versions). those games were so great. i can remember a time where we were at one hive with the other two locked, trying to fend off pg/heavy rushes. it was awesome. the marines just couldnt kill us fast enough <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> we eventually had enough for someone to go fade, take out the res nodes and work on the hives. a gorge to build up res nodes and hives. and finally, some onos to overwhelm double and their base. these are the type of games i play ns for

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Gerald_R_FordGerald_R_Ford Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22544Members
    i'm putting my money on it's lack of dominating skill that driving the longer games.
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  • tanathostanathos Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4949Members
    I remember a certain game, on NS_Nothing on the Redphive server in the 1.04 days. It lasted for a good 4 hours! Both teams kept winning, losing, winning, losing, aah, it was great (altough 4 hours is a bit too long, it was still fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
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  • Thats_EnoughThats_Enough USA Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27141Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Long epic games were what really drew me into NS in the first place... when I didn't see that happening, and games ended up in just who could rush the hardest and fastest, well I lost interest.

    But even since playing B6, and seeing the gameplay get tweaked as we go... well damn. It makes me so happy to see that the games are getting to a point where BOTH competitive play and pub playing will see the best mix of gameplay, and epic hour long games.

    My best game ever played?

    A 2 and a half hour battle on ns_hera (the OLD ns_hera), that was just one struggle after another, and it was so great back and forth. We (alien team) finally won because we were able to get a coordinated rush straight to their base, while the rine team thought they were winning by taking out our 2nd hive.

    Everyone's consenus was the same after that game: "holy crap".

    <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SmoodCrooznSmoodCroozn Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
    I believe in strategy games, all teams should start out weak and have few tools that can easily be countered, but as they progress the game, more options become available even with counters. So the more weapon choices each team has, the harder it'll be to find the exact counter. And that's why games should drag on to the latter stages of tech.

    So I say this is a good sign that B6 will be awesome. Even if no real flashy things get introduced (though free upgrades are *from my thread, hehe*), balance is, always has been, and always will be the most important part of any game.
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  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I don't know what this topic is trying to prove. From my experience, for better or for worse, Beta 6 doesn't particularly affect game length. There have been a couple really long games recently(at least one of them was due to a really crippling bug with not being able to drop hives), but there's no evidence that B6 itself caused them.
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  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Feb 13 2005, 12:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Feb 13 2005, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know what this topic is trying to prove. From my experience, for better or for worse, Beta 6 doesn't particularly affect game length. There have been a couple really long games recently(at least one of them was due to a really crippling bug with not being able to drop hives), but there's no evidence that B6 itself caused them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then add that bug to the fact that all the players know what they're doing, and usually the games are barely larger then 6v6, this topic barely has any voice.
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  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    Long games = fun
    Drawn out games = boring

    What I mean by "long games" is constant action; not turtling in MS or whatever, but constant back-and-forth movement, and when you <b>don't know which team will win until they actually win</b>. Meaning that you can't call the game (aliens lews, ogm f4) from the very beginning.
    Drawn out games are boring turtle farms where nothing happens.

    I'm hoping that B6 will bring in fun, long games <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    yay. i luv long games. but dun make em too long. im not supposed to be playing NS during the school term so long games increase my chance of getting caught <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Feb 12 2005, 06:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Feb 12 2005, 06:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why has that game been going 96 minutes, and the only marine upgrade is motion tracking? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The higher than normal skill of the consties.
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  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BadMouth+Feb 13 2005, 01:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadMouth @ Feb 13 2005, 01:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yay. i luv long games. but dun make em too long. im not supposed to be playing NS during the school term so long games increase my chance of getting caught <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you rebel you

    hehe, someone more scared of their teacher than a cloaked <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • PRTePRTe Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21919Members
    yes! longer games! finally! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    damn long games where what made my day in the older versions. just hope its actually beta 6 that is causing the long games
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  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    sigh
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  • SuddenFearSuddenFear Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17571Members
    6 hour clan matches, that'll resurrect the game!
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  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SuddenFear+Feb 13 2005, 06:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuddenFear @ Feb 13 2005, 06:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 6 hour clan matches, that'll resurrect the game! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    that wld mean skipping one meal. or eating and playing
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