Won2 Compatable?

B1azeB1aze Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46121Members
<div class="IPBDescription">hope it is...</div> IS NS 3.0 fully compatable with WON2?? the beta's always crashed but i started up a NS server on WON2 and no crash happened... i just want to ask if it works fully on the old protocol 46 or 45.... damn forgot the newest NON-steam one... think its 46... well yeah thanks!

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  • ScrapScrap Join Date: 2005-01-06 Member: 32953Members
    whats WON2 <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ?
  • YashYash Join Date: 2004-09-07 Member: 31501Members, Constellation
    Before Anyone else comments, please take a lok at his post count.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-B1aze+Mar 22 2005, 05:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (B1aze @ Mar 22 2005, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> IS NS 3.0 fully compatable with WON2?? the beta's always crashed but i started up a NS server on WON2 and no crash happened... i just want to ask if it works fully on the old protocol 46 or 45.... damn forgot the newest NON-steam one... think its 46... well yeah thanks! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Eh...if your talking about WON, then yes, but its extremely buggy.

    Just use steam.
  • B1azeB1aze Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46121Members
    edited March 2005
    OK..... WON2 is a 3rd party thing that is takeing over WON so now im still able to play useing WON with other players.... i don't like STEAM.... i got really **** when i was not able to use my HL CDkey so i sayed screw it and just stayed with the new 3rd party WON2

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yash: Before Anyone else comments, please take a lok at his post count.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> yeah so i'm new is that a crime?

    and the thing about STEAM is like i sayed about CDkey... anotherthing is i don't want to pay like 40$ for a package and get stuff i DON'T want.... anyways thanks... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-B1aze+Mar 22 2005, 10:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (B1aze @ Mar 22 2005, 10:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> yeah so i'm new is that a crime?

    and the thing about STEAM is like i sayed about CDkey... anotherthing is i don't want to pay like 40$ for a package and get stuff i DON'T want.... anyways thanks... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    being new isn't a crime, but copy right infrigment is.

    and you dont have to pay 40 dollors for somethin you want, and get a bunch of other stuff you dont want.

    You can pay $20 for what you want, and get just that. And you wont be STEALING then too...

    look heres a link: <a href='http://store.vugames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=643039' target='_blank'>http://store.vugames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=643039</a>

    If you dont have a credit card, then go open a checking account, and get an ATM visa or mastercard.
  • B1azeB1aze Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46121Members
    edited March 2005
    STEALING... copy right infrigment?! huh?! like whats the crime? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    i have my OWN CD-key i did not steal it!
  • GeneralGeneral Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29678Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-B1aze+Mar 22 2005, 07:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (B1aze @ Mar 22 2005, 07:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> yeah so i'm new is that a crime? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, but your typing/spelling should be.
  • ZavaroZavaro Tucson, Arizona Join Date: 2005-02-14 Member: 41174Members, Super Administrators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    Why doesn't your CD key work?
  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
    edited March 2005
    A) I can see this being locked due to "OMGZ TEH STEAM IS CRAPPEH" "OMGZ TEH YOU IS NEANDERTHAL!" type classic discussion.
    B) As an actual answer, I doubt you'll see official support from the NS team. First, steam IS the future, like it or not. The user base for this won2 is small, for steam it is high. They don't have time to fix everything in their game, let alone add support for something like this.
    C) You're best bet for help is to actually go to the won2 people. Look for a forum or email address on their website and see if they can give you a hand. If they can't, then I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that you are S.O.L.
    D) Seriously, original halflife I've seen in the bargain bin for $10-$15. It is a sound investment, no matter your income, I can assure you. I'm not questioning the legitamacy of your CD key, but I bet a new one will work with steam.

    I hope this helps.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zavaro+Mar 23 2005, 02:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zavaro @ Mar 23 2005, 02:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why doesn't your CD key work? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm wondering that too....
  • B1azeB1aze Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46121Members
    edited March 2005
    AH.... im not saying STEAM is crap im saying i don't like the way it works.... and SORRY my spelling/grammer is bad.... it's only because im in a damn rush! #2: what the hell does S.O.L mean?? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    oh and when i try to use my CD-Key it always says "CD-Key already inuse" or something like that.... i guessing my CD-Key got stolen!
  • SwiftSwift Lost Keys Join Date: 2005-02-19 Member: 41683Members, Constellation
    You might be one of the few unlucky ones that have a duped CD key. You can always send your CD to valve and they will give you a key... or something like that... steampowered.com
  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    many of us would like steam to die, but the fact is that it isnt. steam is the future for all half-life engine based games, and although many of them work on won, support is dropped for them because valve no longer pays royalties to sierra to run the wonnet servers.

    now i have searched for won2, and as far as i can tell it does not exist. and your speaking of protocal 46, thats the old won network protocal. steams network protocal number is 47.

    ns 3.0 beta 5 works on the old won system perfectly. the only bug is the new say and teamsay bars that strech across the screen appear as barcode when your typing a message, but it appears normal when you send the message.

    you can play on the old wonnet system, but it is a bit more difficult than playing on steam because you cannot search for servers. (there are no master servers) you have to manually add every server you want to play on.

    i have heard of a small group of people that maintain a list of won servers that are still online, that will probably be your best bet if you are an aavid steam hater. i myself hate creating maps on steam because i get nothing but problems with the directory structure. i keep a copy of won installed on my computer for legacy purposes.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    ONLY PROBLEM?

    what about the rest of the graphical errors?

    if you are happy living with em, then yah, play on WON2 (btw, WON2 does exist, just google it, first hit).

    instead I suggest going and contacting the people at steampowered.com to find out how to get a new CDKey (it generaly requires mailng back your first one <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->))
  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    edited March 2005
    PRAISE THE LORD, WON IS BACK!

    won2 is basically won, they just have a different protocal and the master servers are different. although you can bypass the 1.1.1.1 update, and just edit your woncom.lst and add the servers in yourself, so you dont have to get the update.

    but i still stick with the ns team is most likely not going to extend support to the new won system, because according to the stats, right now there are around 200 servers on the entire won network, and about 10,000 players at any given time. and 90% of the servers are counter-strike, with the remaining 10% being dod, tfc, hldm, ect.

    i consider the new won system a novelty item, its a rememberance of the titan hl in its good days, but since there is such a small server / player base, its really not worth using unless your an aavid counter-strike guy.
  • BochBoch Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21216Members, Constellation
    I love how every says steam is the devil....yet I have never once had a single problem with it.
  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    I've never had any troubles with it it either. I don't doubt that people are haveing issues, I'm just really glad I don't.
  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    Actually, i had a few problems with steam, minute problems that were easly fixed though.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Question
     

    When I try to register my CD-Key Steam says the Key is already in use; what do I do?
      Answer
     

    First please be sure that you don't already have your cd key registered to another account. If you are not sure that you have previously registered your cd key start Steam and click the Retrieve Account Info button, then select I do not know my account name and follow the prompts. If you do have an account your password will be emailed to your contact email address on the account. If you do not receive an email within a few hours make sure to check your Junk Mail folder. The password notification may be there.

    If you do not recieve an email from Steam verify that you are entering in the CDKey exactly as it is printed on your package.

    If the problem still persists you will need to obtain a new key by way of disk replacement from Sierra/VU Games.
    For customers in North America:

    Replacement is FREE for the first 90 days of product ownership. After 90 days there is a $10.00 handling fee per program for replacement. You must send in your CD at the time of order. For the fastest service, mail the CD along with either a copy of your sales receipt dated within 90 days OR the $10.00 handling fee and a note stating the reason you seek replacement. In that note, VU Games also requests that you include your name, address, and daytime telephone number so that VU Games' Customer Service Representatives may contact you should the need arise. They will then send you the new CD with a new key.

    Important: For retail Half-Life 2 owners there is no charge for this service, but you are required to send in your CD/DVD.

    The address is:

    Vivendi Universal Interactive
    Attn: Replacements
    4247 S. Minnewawa Avenue
    Fresno, CA 93725
    USA

    The disk replacement process will take approximately 3-4 weeks for delivery.
    For customers outside of North America:

    Please refer to the documentation that is included with your VU Games/Valve product for specific regional contact information regarding disk replacement.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • Bandit_XBandit_X Join Date: 2005-03-29 Member: 46884Members
    edited April 2005
    dude y dont u get a new copy of half-life its like a century old now i got a new copy of half-life generations the other day (because i lost my old copy of half-life) for £10 over here in england im guessing ur american so i think thats about $11-$13 over in the states
    i havent had problems with steam either i think its pretty cool
  • LordFlicKeRLordFlicKeR Join Date: 2005-05-23 Member: 52277Members
    Steam is total garbage, it rejected my CDKey for no reason at all.
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-LordFlicKeR+May 26 2005, 05:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LordFlicKeR @ May 26 2005, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Steam is total garbage, it rejected my CDKey for no reason at all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol. Random troll?
  • DarknsDarkns Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31402Members, Constellation
    Something is not garbage just because you had a problem with it...
    It's, in a way, good to know that you went through the trouble of creating an account, feeling, I'm assuming, that these forums were important enough to post your opinion...
    Though it probably will be your first and last post here...
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