Marines Fall In The Floor But Alien Not

cariocacarioca Join Date: 2003-09-02 Member: 20511Members
edited March 2005 in Mapping Help and Troubleshooting
<div class="IPBDescription">when me walking with my marine</div> so whe me traveling bunny skull doesnt happen nothing when will test my jetpack fly i fall in the flloor and some reason has some kind of slope i can walk back but some time that slope end and i will fall to eternity.
so what is happen with my map and why the marines is only way to fall?
<a href='http://img217.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img217&image=cocharge00569mr.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://img217.exs.cx/img217/9173/cocharge00569mr.th.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>
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  • YashYash Join Date: 2004-09-07 Member: 31501Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-carioca+Mar 27 2005, 12:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (carioca @ Mar 27 2005, 12:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->so whe me traveling bunny skull doesnt happen nothing when will test my jetpack fly i fall in the flloor and some reason has some kind of slope i can walk back but some time that slope end and i will fall to eternity.
    so what is happen with my map and why the marines is only way to fall?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My eyes... <i>they bleed...</i>
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  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    Carioca- show me the section of map in both VHE WireFrame, Solidfill, and textured, along with the location IN GAME with the flashlight on and off

    I might be able to tell you what to do... IF it is what I think it is
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  • brute_forcebrute_force Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21433Members, Constellation
    Sounds to me like a clipnode problem. Try using another cliptype, or simplify the area. Also, wireframe screenshots would be nice.
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  • cariocacarioca Join Date: 2003-09-02 Member: 20511Members
    edited March 2005
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> cant use wireframe in multiplayer games, clipnode precise, func all in wall will end this mess?
    <a href='http://img217.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img217&image=184yb.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://img217.exs.cx/img217/1091/184yb.th.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>
    red line where i start fall the blue dot is where is the slope and the arrow indicate where happing the fall some reason u dont fall over the tanks or the bumped floor
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  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    You can but i forgot the command lines, So use this instead:

    <a href='http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=31' target='_blank'>http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=31</a>
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  • cariocacarioca Join Date: 2003-09-02 Member: 20511Members
    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> thanx sarge but i hope found a trouble some reason hamer shape this bug brush.

    <a href='http://img178.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img178&image=185zo.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://img178.exs.cx/img178/4349/185zo.th.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>
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  • cariocacarioca Join Date: 2003-09-02 Member: 20511Members
    edited March 2005
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> i keep falling and i crouch the onos and he fall too.
    thsi 2 pack of mensages i dunno what means.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.

    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    ...


    i turn all the tanks in func wall and keep the same trouble.
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  • MrRadicalEdMrRadicalEd Turrent Master Join Date: 2004-08-13 Member: 30601Members
    Tip: Don't make the floor out of so many brushes
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  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-carioca+Mar 27 2005, 11:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (carioca @ Mar 27 2005, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> i keep falling and i crouch the onos and he fall too.
    thsi 2 pack of mensages i dunno what means.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.
    Trace backed up past 0.0.

    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    PM Got a velocity too low on 2
    ...


    i turn all the tanks in func wall and keep the same trouble. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    those messages are normal, it just means your moving too fast in one direction (ex. falling a long way)
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  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    put a single, solid, INVISIBLE brush with a thickness of 1 unit over top of it

    SHOULD work <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • cariocacarioca Join Date: 2003-09-02 Member: 20511Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+Mar 27 2005, 12:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Mar 27 2005, 12:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> put a single, solid, INVISIBLE brush with a thickness of 1 unit over top of it

    SHOULD work <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> tell me more and can say the step by step how to set up this stuff?
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  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    putting a 1 unit brush over everything is a very bad idea, and thats also poor mapping technique.

    you need to fix those brushes in hammer that look like they are off the grid, because the compile tools cant work right if the verticies of brushes are not on the grid.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    So this only happens with the onos? Are you at all compiling your map with the ns hulls?

    If you have no idea wth I'm talking about <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> . The nshulls.txt can be found in the ns folder, when using the batch compiler check the CSG tab and select this file at 'Hull file' from your ns dir.
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  • cariocacarioca Join Date: 2003-09-02 Member: 20511Members
    edited March 2005
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> help i tried simplify the place and downlaod and load in bsp viewer but what i do with bspp viewer how me fix this i never get this.
    1675 portalleafs
    5005 numportals

    -= Current hlvis Settings =-
    Name | Setting | Default
    -------------------|-----------|-------------------------
    threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
    verbose [ off ] [ off ]
    log [ on ] [ on ]
    developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
    chart [ off ] [ off ]
    estimate [ off ] [ off ]
    max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
    max vis distance [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
    priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

    fast vis [ off ] [ off ]
    full vis [ off ] [ off ]


    BasePortalVis:
    10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (18.89 seconds)
    LeafThread:
    10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (900.02 seconds)
    Warning: Leaf portals saw into leaf
    Problem at portal between leaves 552 and 551:
    (1696.000 -672.000 76.000)
    (1712.000 -672.000 74.000)
    (1712.000 -819.765 -92.235)
    (1696.000 -832.000 -104.000)
    (1696.000 -832.000 -104.000)

    average leafs visible: 171
    g_visdatasize:85655 compressed from 351750
    919.14 seconds elapsed [15m 19s]
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  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    check to make sure the area you were just working on is lined up right

    ALso- Gigabyte, I just meant cover that one small area- it could be a randomized glitch... I've had it happen. perfectly normal for anything BUT the giant-asstic onos... 0o;'
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  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    if you look at the pic of his brush on the grid, its off the grid. thats probably the cause of the marines sinking into the floor. and the leaf portal saw into leaf... uhh.. check the mapping bugs thread made by darkati, that might fix your problem.
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  • cariocacarioca Join Date: 2003-09-02 Member: 20511Members
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> is gone.
    i func wall and make some flat brushes in the floor.
    thanks all, i will improve some stuff and certify is gone tomorrow again so tahnks.
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