Green Day: The New Vanilla Ice'

DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
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OK, now of course I don't believe that Green Day ripped this melody off on purpose but, the similarities are striking and the original song is quite obscure, only a true Motley Crue fan would have noticed it - so if they were to rip a song off, this would be a safe choice - sorta.

I have included a sound clip I made myself, first it plays Green Day, then Motley Crue, then back to Green Day, tell me if you hear what I do. I find this shockingly too close for comfort.

Green Day - City of the Damned - Recorded 2004
Motley Crue - On with the Show - Recorded 1981

<a href='http://www.riseofpower.net/personal/what.mp3' target='_blank'>http://www.riseofpower.net/personal/what.mp3</a>

What are your thoughts after hearing them side by side?

~ DarkATi
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  • Fog_cartoonsFog_cartoons Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20658Members
    It is very similar, hearing it side by side though! The voices and words change, and thats pretty much it
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    It is similiar, but not a very distinctive beat or anything to my ears. Just kind of a beat and then a guy hits the gutair good, meh.
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Comprox+Apr 4 2005, 11:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ Apr 4 2005, 11:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It is similiar, but not a very distinctive beat or anything to my ears. Just kind of a beat and then a guy hits the gutair good, meh. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well it isn't the beat, it's the melody, listen to the green day singer and then the motley singer. It sounds soooo similar.

    ~ DarkATi
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  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    edited April 2005
    lol nice find, thats awesome. I have a dislike and distrust of Greenday, and this clinches it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    "Hell man, nobody listens to Motley Crue any more, this songs over 20 years old! They'll never notice!"
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  • Steel_TrollSteel_Troll Join Date: 2004-02-12 Member: 26455Members
    Hmmm, i smell ah fish...
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  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    I'm not quite convinced, although they do sound similar. It could always be a slight homage, but then again, what do I care? I have nothing staked in either band. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+Apr 4 2005, 11:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ Apr 4 2005, 11:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol nice find, thats awesome. I have a dislike and distrust of Greenday, and this clinches it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    "Hell man, nobody listens to Motley Crue any more, this songs over 20 years old! They'll never notice!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wouldn't doubt it.

    Or perhaps they're fans and he subconsciously "stole" the melody. Or maybe it's just a freakish coincidence, I know one time I was jamming out to a riff I "made" on my guitar, only to realize it was a LostProphets riff...

    I don't really care about any of this, I just thought it was odd, I was mapping and listening to my new CD. (What I do with all new CDs I get.. pop 'em in and rock out whilst mapping <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> - I always listen to new CDs straight through) and was like, wait a second, that melody is sooo familiar.... heh

    ~ DarkATi
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    While the rhythm is somewhat similar, what you are noticing is that they are both using the same chord progression. It is a very basic chord progression at that. This is by no means a definitive copy. I won't say it isn't but it's not as close as you think.
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Apr 4 2005, 02:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Apr 4 2005, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> While the rhythm is somewhat similar, what you are noticing is that they are both using the same chord progression. It is a very basic chord progression at that. This is by no means a definitive copy. I won't say it isn't but it's not as close as you think. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't know... the vocals seem really similar, regardless of what progression they're using, (the same or not) the vocals have freedom to go up and down within the key of the song and the fact that they both take a pause at the same point, drop off at the same point etc. makes this either a COLOSSAL coincidence or a rip-off.

    We'll probably never know...

    ~ DarkATi
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    you mean the - - - ---- - - - - ------ - - - ----- - - - - - -----------
    rhythm. Sure, pretty similar rhythm and I'm not discounting it, but I don't really know this style of music too well so I don't have the library to compare it to. For all I know it's pretty common. But there are only a few poetic rhythms that are often used in pop music, mainly because it has to fit in the very regular metre of the music.
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  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    I kinda stopped putting creed in Greenday when I realized they are old men with wives and kids writing songs about teenage angst.
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  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Wouldn't that make Green Day the new Ray Parker Junior more than the Iceman?

    That's not a very good song anyways. They have much better stuff.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    edited April 2005
    Its similar but no where near as obvious as the rip off vanilla ice pulled off with the bassline from "Under pressure" by Queen
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    My thoughts are, why don't I have that 1981 Motley Crue album?
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  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited April 2005
    Similarities are there, but not really anything to shout "OLO FEEF" about. Simple chord progression, simple melody following said chord progression.

    Nowhere near as blatant as Ice Ice Baby/Under Pressure, or the Doom music rips.
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  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Apr 4 2005, 04:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Apr 4 2005, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its similar but no where near as obvious as the rip off vanilla ice pulled off with the bassline from "Under pressure" by Queen <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How 'bout Hammer stealing the riff from Rick James' 'Superfreak?'
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+Apr 4 2005, 05:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ Apr 4 2005, 05:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My thoughts are, why don't I have that 1981 Motley Crue album? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's from the album "Too Fast for Love" come to think of it, maybe it was 1980, but I thought '81. Not sure. Oh well.

    ~ DarkATi
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Yes and I should have it somewhere around (seeing as how my uncle loved them so much and I "borrowed" them from him) but I never even heard about it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • LokeTheSleekPeruvianLokeTheSleekPeruvian Join Date: 2003-08-21 Member: 20054Members
    You know, Bab's Uvula Who's guitar sounds a lot like The Wicker Man's by Iron Maiden.
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