Hardly anyone that's posting here is reading the senario that the link in the first post sets out....
These five year olds are all fearless and will attack you in a coordinated manner your not gonna be able to take on more than 10 an win period I don't care how hard you think you are lol.
Yet people still keep posting rubbish like "I got 2 years of ta1kw0nd0 pwnzp0rz bruce l33 rah rah rah etc so I can take on 60" <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Or "I play0rz rugby an am3rican f00tballz so I can take on 70" <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-Grendel+Apr 9 2005, 11:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ Apr 9 2005, 11:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 5 year olds are suprisingly tough and they're too dumb to realise when they're in pain half the time. Any adult who has <b>play-fought</b> ... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sure grendel.... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I dunno. I'm a fairly big guy (heavy too) and years of little kids trying to trip me over ("HAY LETS TRIP THE FAT GUY LOL ^^!") has given me some fairly good balance, and i've gone against 5 or 6 kids who are smaller than me before (I didn't hit them back of course but i didn't fall over)... but I don't have much punching or kicking speed. Not that i'm weak i just can't throw a punch. So i'd go with the knees to the face over and over or just pick one kid up by the feet and spin around.
<!--QuoteBegin-CMEast+Apr 8 2005, 11:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CMEast @ Apr 8 2005, 11:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Apr 9 2005, 03:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Apr 9 2005, 03:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So... Smash TV, except with no weapons... and you get to kick five year olds in the head?
I don't think games need that kind of publicity. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well you could make them zombie five year olds? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I see your point though. I can hardly imagine anyone accusing us of using it to 'train ourselves to become lethal killers' but yeah, it's the kind of thing they'd use anyway.
I'm still surprised there wasn't a columbine themed mod or at least a few 'school' maps in CS (urgh). Glad though, now that <i>would</i> be jumped on! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> According to the press one of the two had a cs_columbinehigh.bsp on his machine. Not like we'll get to see it though <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Other than that, I'm going to go out on a limb with probably 30-ish being possible, assuming I'd have any type of hand-to-hand combat training. You should be able to knock the air out of a 5 year old though - their gross motor skills aren't that great yet, and the most damage they can deal would probably come from biting. But holy crap could it ever be hours of fun to pick one up and bash the others over the head with him. Awesome!
Its definitely a question that will keep me up at night though. Kekekek kiddy rush ^_^
The number has got to be less than 10 for any one. There's not a standard progression for the difficulty of multiple opponents; it's an exponential increase in difficulty for extra opponents. If I have to resort to math, it'd probably be something like f(x)=2x+10^x, f(x) being the difficulty and x being the number of 5-year-olds.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Surge+Apr 9 2005, 01:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Surge @ Apr 9 2005, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The number has got to be less than 10 for any one. There's not a standard progression for the difficulty of multiple opponents; it's an exponential increase in difficulty for extra opponents. If I have to resort to math, it'd probably be something like f(x)=2x+10^x, f(x) being the difficulty and x being the number of 5-year-olds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You've just taken a thread about how many 5 year old children could a 16+ year old knock unconscious, and applied relatively advanced mathematics to it.
Very well obviously, knowing exactly how many 5 year olds he has to watch out for <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
you people saying you couldn't take on more than 10 obviously don't spend much time with 5 year olds... at that age, most kids are pathetic. you can teach for a day how to work as a team, and from the off, half of them will start playing tig at the other end of the arena, and the other half might look at you and get scared... not to mention the lack of strength. how much does the average 5 year old weigh? 5-6 stone maybe? Pile em all on, who cares- any rugby player who's been at the bottom of a ruck thats collapsed has had over 100 stone on top of them... if you're lieing on your side, you can take a hell of a lot of force...
I stand by my original .... how many can you fit on the court? ¬.¬
<!--QuoteBegin-napi+Apr 9 2005, 03:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (napi @ Apr 9 2005, 03:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this is a stupid question, but have any of you ever been in a 'fight' with a 5 year old? I've got ~13 years of martial arts experience, included in there is a lot of teaching - quite a bit of teaching very young kids. One of the things they *love* to do is fight against the blackbelts... you can let them hit you as hard as you want and you really can't feel a thing - they just don't have the muscle strength to hurt you!
not to mention that you can jump over an average-height 5 year old.... 'nuff fun running up and down the court clipping them on the head as you jump over and dive into the group haha
How many? How many can you fit on the court... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> They wouldn't do much damage punching you, true. But they do weigh about 60 pounds each, and that is enough to slow you down for sure, and given enough of them, probaly take you to the ground. Once your down, say what you will, but a 60 pound mass throwing itself into the air and coming down on you with an impact surface the size of a small shoe is going to do alot more damage then a 5 year old's punch would.
I would say it would take a minimum of 6 five year olds to knock down and out a full grown adult who does nothing more then simply resist thier attacks. Thus if you make a mistake while there is still 6 or more five year olds in good condition, they have a chance at ending it right there. With a little luck you could go through hundreds no problem, but a bad mistake on your part will end your streak flat. That is why I say it is hard to pick a clean number.
[edit] surge, that doesn't apply that way for melee opponents. If you were to graph the difficulty of a melee fight it would be a curved graph. After a critical mass the difficulty doesn't increase any more because each new opponent cannot acctually get into the fight, it is just too crowded. This rarely matters, because 9 times out of 10 you put 3 guys up against one guy and they will find a way to take him out no matter who he is. But five year olds suck, most likely they reach critical mass effectiveness before your difficulty level becomes unconqueorable.
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<!--QuoteBegin-theclam+Apr 8 2005, 10:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ Apr 8 2005, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The average weight for a 5 year old is 43 pounds.
I don't even think I could take 10 of them lying on top of me, much less 50. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dont let them kncok you down....
The thing that scares me about this scenario is the day of training they're given by a "Hand-to-hand expert" SPECIFICALLY to work as a team and take down an adult.
Assuming i'd had time to train for this most unusual event (i'm not in great shape since I quit Tae-kwon-do), i'd say somewhere in the mid 20's at a push.
I find myself in the rare position of being an expert in this particular field; my mother was a childminder for several years, in which time I had plenty of experience at being rugby tackled by large groups of young children. I also found myself faced with a similar situation to that described at my cousin's 6th birthday. There was a ball-pool. One particulary vicious one kept trying to kick me in the knackers.
Something you'll soon learn about five-year-olds is their favorite tactic: Grab onto an arm/leg and don't let go. Once they get you on the floor they tend to try and jump on your head, which would probably be a painful enough experience to make you pass out after one or two jumps depending on the weight of the child in question. Again.... I speak from experience here. I was quite fortunate they weren't wearing shoes at the time, and that the head-jumper was only three years old.
As for the "grab one of them and swing them around as a weapon".... i'm laughing at the mental image, but I don't think it's particularly practical. A five-year-old might not be too strong, but they're heavy. You couldn't swing one around for long.
If they've been trained for a day by an "expert" to take down an adult, i'd be more than a little worried. They would undoubtably use their weight as a weapon more than their strength; rugby tackles and dogpiles would be the tactics-of-choice. I also just read something else; <b>you start in the middle of the room</b>. You'd quickly be surrounded anyway. With that in mind, break-dancing might be a useful skill to employ here <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm going to stick with my original guess of 20. Although I don't recommend any of you attempt to put this to the test.
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The scary thing is, after reading this thread, I really want to go and set this up. I'm fairly sure not many parents would agree to it, but DAMN, I want to see how many I can take down with me.
<!--QuoteBegin-X Stickman+Apr 9 2005, 02:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X Stickman @ Apr 9 2005, 02:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The scary thing is, after reading this thread, I really want to go and set this up. I'm fairly sure not many parents would agree to it, but DAMN, I want to see how many I can take down with me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> quoted for truth...
so many people with different opinions.. would LOVE to have a go at this even it meant eventually getting knocked out by some 5 year olds!
Some one PLEASE arrange this! I'd pay 500$ to have a massive fight with 5 year olds, preferably clones or something not kidnapped ones or homeless <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
30-40 I'd say
My tactic would be ripping out the largest ribs and use em as stabby knives.
<!--QuoteBegin-Svenpa+Apr 9 2005, 10:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Svenpa @ Apr 9 2005, 10:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Some one PLEASE arrange this! I'd pay 500$ to have a massive fight with 5 year olds, preferably clones or something not kidnapped ones or homeless <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
30-40 I'd say
My tactic would be ripping out the largest ribs and use em as stabby knives. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Looks like we even have foreign investment.
Anyway, I don't know how many I'd take, but I'd have a hell of a time trying.
Alright, the requests about actually setting this up are starting to get unnervingly insistent. You'll have this thread locked in no time if you keep at it.
Also, stop assuming that the kids will be scared of you or won't try to take you down. It was part of the basic premise: <b>The kids are motivated to take you down.</b> They won't start playing catch with each other, and they won't back off: Even when the others have been torn limb from limb and you are feasting on their entrails, the remaining ones will charge you with the ferocity of a cornered, rabid dog. You can make assumptions about their grasp of tactics and teamwork, but trouncing a few of them will NOT scare the others off.
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Yeah that'd be fun... on Star Trek, Worf walks into the holoroom and starts up a simulation where he has to take on 100 human 5 year olds then Crusher walks in and Worf is in the middle of tearing a kid in half and she's all "wth!" and then i'd laugh at the TV
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->- You are in an enclosed area, roughly the size of a basketball court. There are no foreign objects. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Does anyone agree with me, that a chainsaw should not count as foreign object?
<!--QuoteBegin-X Stickman+Apr 9 2005, 11:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X Stickman @ Apr 9 2005, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah that'd be fun... on Star Trek, Worf walks into the holoroom and starts up a simulation where he has to take on 100 human 5 year olds then Crusher walks in and Worf is in the middle of tearing a kid in half and she's all "wth!" and then i'd laugh at the TV <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Especially if they all looked like Alexander. Even more especially if the "real" Alexander was one of those torn apart by our ol' buddy Worf.
<!--QuoteBegin-X Stickman+Apr 9 2005, 11:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X Stickman @ Apr 9 2005, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah that'd be fun... on Star Trek, Worf walks into the holoroom and starts up a simulation where he has to take on 100 human 5 year olds then Crusher walks in and Worf is in the middle of tearing a kid in half and she's all "wth!" and then i'd laugh at the TV <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Black Mage is still nerdier then you, I don't care how hard you try.
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Hmm give or take 12+ maybe more if I was more angry. Now the real question is how tall are these kids? and how heavy can they be, cause I do have limits when it comes to throwing fat kids at others.
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Do I have retaliation and enough rage to drop down sweeping strikes? If so, could probably handle up to 20 in the first 30 seconds. Unless they're elites or casters. Hmm...
<!--QuoteBegin-WaterBoy+Apr 9 2005, 09:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WaterBoy @ Apr 9 2005, 09:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-theclam+Apr 8 2005, 10:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ Apr 8 2005, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The average weight for a 5 year old is 43 pounds.
I don't even think I could take 10 of them lying on top of me, much less 50. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dont let them kncok you down.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Let me rephrase that:
The average weight for a 5 year old is 43 pounds.
I don't even think I could take 5 of them grabbing my legs, much less 50.
How do you get a 5 year old off of your legs? They cling like limpets and you don't exactly have great leverage at that height and angle. That would slow you down for long enough to be surrounded and crushed to death.
<!--QuoteBegin-Svenpa+Apr 9 2005, 03:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Svenpa @ Apr 9 2005, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too add some flavor, which melee weapon would you take if they let you have one? only one. I would go for the avp wrist blade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hmmm...
If anyone has seen LEXX, think of Kai's little hand-brace thing.
Otherwise... crowbar (<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->), maybe a chainsaw. A polearm would be useful. Maybe a scythe.
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These five year olds are all fearless and will attack you in a coordinated manner your not gonna be able to take on more than 10 an win period I don't care how hard you think you are lol.
Yet people still keep posting rubbish like "I got 2 years of ta1kw0nd0 pwnzp0rz bruce l33 rah rah rah etc so I can take on 60" <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Or "I play0rz rugby an am3rican f00tballz so I can take on 70" <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sure grendel.... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I dunno. I'm a fairly big guy (heavy too) and years of little kids trying to trip me over ("HAY LETS TRIP THE FAT GUY LOL ^^!") has given me some fairly good balance, and i've gone against 5 or 6 kids who are smaller than me before (I didn't hit them back of course but i didn't fall over)... but I don't have much punching or kicking speed. Not that i'm weak i just can't throw a punch. So i'd go with the knees to the face over and over or just pick one kid up by the feet and spin around.
I don't think games need that kind of publicity. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well you could make them zombie five year olds? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I see your point though. I can hardly imagine anyone accusing us of using it to 'train ourselves to become lethal killers' but yeah, it's the kind of thing they'd use anyway.
I'm still surprised there wasn't a columbine themed mod or at least a few 'school' maps in CS (urgh). Glad though, now that <i>would</i> be jumped on! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
According to the press one of the two had a cs_columbinehigh.bsp on his machine. Not like we'll get to see it though <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Other than that, I'm going to go out on a limb with probably 30-ish being possible, assuming I'd have any type of hand-to-hand combat training. You should be able to knock the air out of a 5 year old though - their gross motor skills aren't that great yet, and the most damage they can deal would probably come from biting. But holy crap could it ever be hours of fun to pick one up and bash the others over the head with him. Awesome!
Its definitely a question that will keep me up at night though. Kekekek kiddy rush ^_^
You've just taken a thread about how many 5 year old children could a 16+ year old knock unconscious, and applied relatively advanced mathematics to it.
How do you sleep at night?
I stand by my original .... how many can you fit on the court? ¬.¬
I've got ~13 years of martial arts experience, included in there is a lot of teaching - quite a bit of teaching very young kids. One of the things they *love* to do is fight against the blackbelts... you can let them hit you as hard as you want and you really can't feel a thing - they just don't have the muscle strength to hurt you!
not to mention that you can jump over an average-height 5 year old.... 'nuff fun running up and down the court clipping them on the head as you jump over and dive into the group haha
How many? How many can you fit on the court... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They wouldn't do much damage punching you, true. But they do weigh about 60 pounds each, and that is enough to slow you down for sure, and given enough of them, probaly take you to the ground. Once your down, say what you will, but a 60 pound mass throwing itself into the air and coming down on you with an impact surface the size of a small shoe is going to do alot more damage then a 5 year old's punch would.
I would say it would take a minimum of 6 five year olds to knock down and out a full grown adult who does nothing more then simply resist thier attacks. Thus if you make a mistake while there is still 6 or more five year olds in good condition, they have a chance at ending it right there. With a little luck you could go through hundreds no problem, but a bad mistake on your part will end your streak flat. That is why I say it is hard to pick a clean number.
[edit] surge, that doesn't apply that way for melee opponents. If you were to graph the difficulty of a melee fight it would be a curved graph. After a critical mass the difficulty doesn't increase any more because each new opponent cannot acctually get into the fight, it is just too crowded. This rarely matters, because 9 times out of 10 you put 3 guys up against one guy and they will find a way to take him out no matter who he is. But five year olds suck, most likely they reach critical mass effectiveness before your difficulty level becomes unconqueorable.
I don't even think I could take 10 of them lying on top of me, much less 50. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont let them kncok you down....
Assuming i'd had time to train for this most unusual event (i'm not in great shape since I quit Tae-kwon-do), i'd say somewhere in the mid 20's at a push.
I find myself in the rare position of being an expert in this particular field; my mother was a childminder for several years, in which time I had plenty of experience at being rugby tackled by large groups of young children. I also found myself faced with a similar situation to that described at my cousin's 6th birthday. There was a ball-pool. One particulary vicious one kept trying to kick me in the knackers.
Something you'll soon learn about five-year-olds is their favorite tactic: Grab onto an arm/leg and don't let go. Once they get you on the floor they tend to try and jump on your head, which would probably be a painful enough experience to make you pass out after one or two jumps depending on the weight of the child in question. Again.... I speak from experience here. I was quite fortunate they weren't wearing shoes at the time, and that the head-jumper was only three years old.
As for the "grab one of them and swing them around as a weapon".... i'm laughing at the mental image, but I don't think it's particularly practical. A five-year-old might not be too strong, but they're heavy. You couldn't swing one around for long.
If they've been trained for a day by an "expert" to take down an adult, i'd be more than a little worried. They would undoubtably use their weight as a weapon more than their strength; rugby tackles and dogpiles would be the tactics-of-choice. I also just read something else; <b>you start in the middle of the room</b>. You'd quickly be surrounded anyway. With that in mind, break-dancing might be a useful skill to employ here <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm going to stick with my original guess of 20. Although I don't recommend any of you attempt to put this to the test.
quoted for truth...
so many people with different opinions.. would LOVE to have a go at this even it meant eventually getting knocked out by some 5 year olds!
30-40 I'd say
My tactic would be ripping out the largest ribs and use em as stabby knives.
30-40 I'd say
My tactic would be ripping out the largest ribs and use em as stabby knives. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Looks like we even have foreign investment.
Anyway, I don't know how many I'd take, but I'd have a hell of a time trying.
Also, stop assuming that the kids will be scared of you or won't try to take you down. It was part of the basic premise: <b>The kids are motivated to take you down.</b> They won't start playing catch with each other, and they won't back off: Even when the others have been torn limb from limb and you are feasting on their entrails, the remaining ones will charge you with the ferocity of a cornered, rabid dog. You can make assumptions about their grasp of tactics and teamwork, but trouncing a few of them will NOT scare the others off.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Does anyone agree with me, that a chainsaw should not count as foreign object?
Especially if they all looked like Alexander. Even more especially if the "real" Alexander was one of those torn apart by our ol' buddy Worf.
Black Mage is still nerdier then you, I don't care how hard you try.
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I don't even think I could take 10 of them lying on top of me, much less 50. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dont let them kncok you down.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Let me rephrase that:
The average weight for a 5 year old is 43 pounds.
I don't even think I could take 5 of them grabbing my legs, much less 50.
How do you get a 5 year old off of your legs? They cling like limpets and you don't exactly have great leverage at that height and angle. That would slow you down for long enough to be surrounded and crushed to death.
Hmmm...
If anyone has seen LEXX, think of Kai's little hand-brace thing.
Otherwise... crowbar (<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->), maybe a chainsaw. A polearm would be useful. Maybe a scythe.
'Tag, your in!'
Just how many posts does that forum allow per page. Not cool.