Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited May 2007
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Nope, been busy IRL. Achio is still very much playable on 3.2. The only issues are the labelled and transparant minimaps and perhaps the 90% functional trough wall teleporter (should have one more feature as in only active when the aft engine hive has been built)
And perhaps the fact that I'm kinda bored with mapping after two maps in a row/the dreaded release of NS2TR... But mainly bored
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I know your pain Kouji_San , RL has been biting me real bad last couple of month's <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited July 2007
<!--coloro:grey--><span style="color:grey"><!--/coloro-->Meh it seems the customisation forum is not active enought so...
ehm...
v2b5 is finished: Changes: - The map is now ns 3.2 compatible, the minimaps are also 3.2 compatible. - Changed some doors to have a minimumlight (this will fix the blacked out areas on some doors). - Added *_2 and *_3 transparant minimaps. - The aft alien trough wall teleporter is now only useable when the aft engine hive is alive (thanks puzl for fixing the hive targetondeath)
Well the "<i>Added *_2 and *_3 transparant minimaps</i>" part still needs to be done and I've tried this transparant map thingy but I just can't get it to work... ergo --> <issue resolved> <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?s=2887896404331559424&showtopic=102096" target="_blank">related thead</a> </issue resolved> <!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro--><!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Beta5 has been released</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
The map now has transparant minimaps and is fully compatible with ns 3.2 (finally? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />)
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited July 2007
Nah no need, since most of the map has remained like beta4. I only fixed a few issues and made the map ns 3.2 compatible. Well there is new screenshot of the transparant labelled minimap though <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
Oh and the aft trough wall teleporter now works like it was intended, but during the release of beta4 (pre 3.2) there was a bug with the targetondeath so I couldn't make it hive dependant. (puzl fixed this for beta 3.2)
All in all it's a quite minor update, but a needed one none the less
Gonna test this version soon <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
<!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro--><!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Tribute release for ns1.04</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
This version is a tribute for ns1.04 of beta 5. Since I was walking around in <a href="http://www.brywright.co.uk/downloads/files/index.php?dir=natural-selection/install/old_versions/&file=ns_v1.04-steam-Bryns.exe" target="_blank">Bry's ns 1.04</a> I thought: "Hey lets recompile Achio for 1.04."
So here it is --> ns_achio_104a for ns 1.04
And most importantly, the special features still work! <ul><li>Hives based bacterium lockdown resnodes</li><li>Weldable resnode</li><li>Alien only trough wall teleporter, similar to the movement chamber</li><li>Two button security door</li></ul>
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited September 2007
I used the fgd file in Bry's NS install and I had to change the z-axis a bit for the info_player_starts, they were stuck in the floor when the compile was completed (used ripent to bump the up a little, by 100 grid units). I did use the hullfile though, which was included in the Bry NS map.
The map does however feel more dark, I think a recompile with a bump in lighting is needed (env_gamma perhaps not doing it's thing :/ )
Also I included a ns_achio104.wad, which I used for ns2.wad related textures. So basically I also had to change the wadlist, but that's only if a map has used textures from ns2.wad. I could've released the 1.04 map with the ns2.wad included, but now the map is standalone incase someone else wants to recompile their classic map.
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
You are correct, the info_location seem to be borked now, I didn't even notice them not showing their location name.
Meh doesn't really matter since it probably won't get played anyway. Imaging a custom map the trouble of getting played in ns3.2, now add the unknown status of Bry's ns1.04 to this equision.
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
Heh, another thing added to the bug/error list. The weird thing is that there seem to be no brush errors in the *.map file or when viewing the breakup of brushes using BSP/object viewer.
Both of them are covered in a more simple clipbrush tough, heh, I might even try a compile without the clipbrush to see if that is a fix. Other then that I doubt I'll release another version of the map though. But thanks anyway GB!
If you do end up revising it again, try to open the map up more. The map is way too claustrophobic with the small corridors and limited access to and from different parts of the map. Marine Start really needs more paths to it because it's almost like it's not part of the map with only two small corridors attaching it to the rest of the map.
Overall the map feels like a dungeon from the lack of mobility, but the detail put into the map is pretty good.
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Nope, been busy IRL. Achio is still very much playable on 3.2. The only issues are the labelled and transparant minimaps and perhaps the 90% functional trough wall teleporter (should have one more feature as in only active when the aft engine hive has been built)
And perhaps the fact that I'm kinda bored with mapping after two maps in a row/the dreaded release of NS2TR... But mainly bored
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ehm...
v2b5 is finished:
Changes:
- The map is now ns 3.2 compatible, the minimaps are also 3.2 compatible.
- Changed some doors to have a minimumlight (this will fix the blacked out areas on some doors).
- Added *_2 and *_3 transparant minimaps.
- The aft alien trough wall teleporter is now only useable when the aft engine hive is alive (thanks puzl for fixing the hive targetondeath)
Well the "<i>Added *_2 and *_3 transparant minimaps</i>" part still needs to be done and I've tried this transparant map thingy but I just can't get it to work... ergo --> <issue resolved> <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?s=2887896404331559424&showtopic=102096" target="_blank">related thead</a> </issue resolved> <!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro--><!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Beta5 has been released</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
The map now has transparant minimaps and is fully compatible with ns 3.2 (finally? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />)
Alright.
Have we updated screenies at the top of the post too?
Oh and the aft trough wall teleporter now works like it was intended, but during the release of beta4 (pre 3.2) there was a bug with the targetondeath so I couldn't make it hive dependant. (puzl fixed this for beta 3.2)
All in all it's a quite minor update, but a needed one none the less
Nice job. We definitely have enough maps for that map pack.
This version is a tribute for ns1.04 of beta 5. Since I was walking around in <a href="http://www.brywright.co.uk/downloads/files/index.php?dir=natural-selection/install/old_versions/&file=ns_v1.04-steam-Bryns.exe" target="_blank">Bry's ns 1.04</a> I thought: "Hey lets recompile Achio for 1.04."
So here it is --> ns_achio_104a for ns 1.04
And most importantly, the special features still work!
<ul><li>Hives based bacterium lockdown resnodes</li><li>Weldable resnode</li><li>Alien only trough wall teleporter, similar to the movement chamber</li><li>Two button security door</li></ul>
The map does however feel more dark, I think a recompile with a bump in lighting is needed (env_gamma perhaps not doing it's thing :/ )
Also I included a ns_achio104.wad, which I used for ns2.wad related textures. So basically I also had to change the wadlist, but that's only if a map has used textures from ns2.wad. I could've released the 1.04 map with the ns2.wad included, but now the map is standalone incase someone else wants to recompile their classic map.
Meh doesn't really matter since it probably won't get played anyway. Imaging a custom map the trouble of getting played in ns3.2, now add the unknown status of Bry's ns1.04 to this equision.
You can walk right through them while standing up, crouching seems to stop it while you're under the pipes.
<img src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5082/77088267sk8.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Think func_walling them will fix that.
Both of them are covered in a more simple clipbrush tough, heh, I might even try a compile without the clipbrush to see if that is a fix. Other then that I doubt I'll release another version of the map though. But thanks anyway GB!
Overall the map feels like a dungeon from the lack of mobility, but the detail put into the map is pretty good.