There is the spawn-camping while waiting for something or with the purpose of delaying alies evolution and there is spawn-camping for fun and annoy other players. I hate the latter. F4 / change of server does the trick. It's all about self-regulation.
If a spawn-camper causes a game to end quickly (because everyone disconnected or went to the ready-room) he will tend to do it less. And if doesn't, who cares, there are many servers around.
<!--QuoteBegin-Amplifier+Apr 15 2005, 02:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Amplifier @ Apr 15 2005, 02:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Spawn camping is part of the game, what do you expect the marines to do, just ignore you? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah they think the hive is a no fire zone.
If the aliens have an onos and the comm doesnt have an obs, something is messed up. Also, I agree if the onos is refusing to hit the ip, that is just stupid, as he could kill it very quickly.
Let it die ... this subject has been beat to death in like, how many different threads now? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you are munching on a Marine's base and run over to the IPs in anticipation of a spawn, then go back to what you're doing.. fine. If you're just waiting there trying to play whack-a-mole with no other purpose, get the Hell out.
If you are sitting in the Hive popping off everything that spawns, buying time for your teammates to reach you, a phasegate to go up, or sieges to complete.. fine. If you're just standing around trying to rack up kills and haven't even notified your team of WTH you're doing, get the Hell out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Rushakra+Apr 16 2005, 02:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rushakra @ Apr 16 2005, 02:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you are munching on a Marine's base and run over to the IPs in anticipation of a spawn, then go back to what you're doing.. fine. If you're just waiting there trying to play whack-a-mole with no other purpose, get the Hell out.
If you are sitting in the Hive popping off everything that spawns, buying time for your teammates to reach you, a phasegate to go up, or sieges to complete.. fine. If you're just standing around trying to rack up kills and haven't even notified your team of WTH you're doing, get the Hell out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> why?
The marine "racking" up those kills in the hive just won the game, the skulk at the IP isn't a problem, if all else fails the commander should wait for the spawn and get out too (that is if there is noone else coming to save the base) plus skulks have to dodge mines!! =]
*edit* - ignore that commander thing, just medspam the hell out of the IP.
ChurchMeatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2Join Date: 2002-12-31Member: 11646Members, Constellation
BTW if the other team just camps IPs with Onos/doesn't shoot hive for llike 5 minutes straight or something, then you always have this option called "f4" which will definitely not get you banned if the otehr team is dragging out the game for too long. F4, then go browse a websit,e read a magazine, whatever for a few more minutes.
<!--QuoteBegin-Church+Apr 16 2005, 05:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Church @ Apr 16 2005, 05:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> BTW if the other team just camps IPs with Onos/doesn't shoot hive for llike 5 minutes straight or something, then you always have this option called "f4" which will definitely not get you banned if the otehr team is dragging out the game for too long. F4, then go browse a websit,e read a magazine, whatever for a few more minutes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL, so true, so true
The simplest way to prevent spawncamping.... don't let them into the hive. If a marine can get into your hive without being sighted by anyone, I believe you deserve to be spawncamped.
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
Especially in CO maps, kills may help, but all the kills in the world wont kill the Hive or the CC,
For exampmle if Im playing a combat map, I Jet pack in there and shoot the hive 1st and then any alien who gets in my way. I dont intentionally sit in the corner and just wait for people to spawn b/c I think thats lame.
If the team was assaulting the hive and some guys are killing the hive and some guys are covering them then its different.
but when a team just sits in the hive blasting any skulk that spawns before they can even move. (Or a group of fade oni in marine start for that matter) and not even attempting to complete the objective and shoot hive or eat cc, I think thats really stupid.
<!--QuoteBegin-KoniaX+Apr 16 2005, 12:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KoniaX @ Apr 16 2005, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The simplest way to prevent spawncamping.... don't let them into the hive. If a marine can get into your hive without being sighted by anyone, I believe you deserve to be spawncamped. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> amen!
BreakthroughTexture Artist (ns_prometheus)Join Date: 2005-03-27Member: 46620Members, Constellation
The actual point of this thread has turned into a poll of wether people like or dislike spawncamping. Nobody likes it, but we have to deal with it. It's what happens when we loose. If you can't kill the spawn camper, then you deserve to loose.
<!--QuoteBegin-KoniaX+Apr 16 2005, 01:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KoniaX @ Apr 16 2005, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The simplest way to prevent spawncamping.... don't let them into the hive. If a marine can get into your hive without being sighted by anyone, I believe you deserve to be spawncamped.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Where is it written that spawncamping is defined as marines in the alien base? Do you not think the aliens can spawncamp the marines as well? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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I hate the latter. F4 / change of server does the trick. It's all about self-regulation.
If a spawn-camper causes a game to end quickly (because everyone disconnected or went to the ready-room) he will tend to do it less.
And if doesn't, who cares, there are many servers around.
Yeah they think the hive is a no fire zone.
You are a marine and have a CC and one IP.
And one Onos stays near your IP doing nothing but waiting for you to spawn to devour you.
There is a difference if the Onos is destryoing the IP and you appear and he devours you. The first is just plain-irritating, the second is playing.
In the same way, you can have marines spawn-camping at the hive while waiting for something or spawn-camping just to irritate people.
If you are sitting in the Hive popping off everything that spawns, buying time for your teammates to reach you, a phasegate to go up, or sieges to complete.. fine. If you're just standing around trying to rack up kills and haven't even notified your team of WTH you're doing, get the Hell out.
If you are sitting in the Hive popping off everything that spawns, buying time for your teammates to reach you, a phasegate to go up, or sieges to complete.. fine. If you're just standing around trying to rack up kills and haven't even notified your team of WTH you're doing, get the Hell out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
why?
*edit* - ignore that commander thing, just medspam the hell out of the IP.
ns = spawn camp = perfectly fine.
1. They dont sit there the whole game
2. There some kinda stratigic purpous to it
3. Sorry for any spelling errors
LOL, so true, so true
For exampmle if Im playing a combat map, I Jet pack in there and shoot the hive 1st and then any alien who gets in my way. I dont intentionally sit in the corner and just wait for people to spawn b/c I think thats lame.
If the team was assaulting the hive and some guys are killing the hive and some guys are covering them then its different.
but when a team just sits in the hive blasting any skulk that spawns before they can even move. (Or a group of fade oni in marine start for that matter) and not even attempting to complete the objective and shoot hive or eat cc, I think thats really stupid.
amen!
Where is it written that spawncamping is defined as marines in the alien base? Do you not think the aliens can spawncamp the marines as well? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->