Why Does Whatever Team I Join, Lose?

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  • kill4thrillskill4thrills Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29506Members, Constellation
    you need to pick your team wisely. after losing a few rounds you get the idea of who the power players are, on both sides. they often know this as well and try to stack one team. make sure you're on that one...
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Well, Doomeh, you may suck at team games, but I'm one of the worst gamers all around. I've never won a deathmatch game, except in the occasional 1-on-1. I've been playing online since Q2 (though didn't play Q2 much cuz I was young). Some people just naturally suck. I have good reflexes, moderate aim, great movement, and yet no matter what I do, I lose. I don't even try anymore. You shouldn't, either.
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Fun first, then scoring.
  • heartshapedheartshaped Join Date: 2005-04-14 Member: 48425Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 18 2005, 01:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 18 2005, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Something I've noticed is that when it comes to team-based multiplayer games, my team will always lose.

    NS? My team loses.
    NS:Combat? My team loses.
    CS:S? My team loses.
    BF:V? My team loses.

    You get the picture.

    It doesn't matter, the game, it doesn't matter what team I'm on, and it doesn't matter what server I'm on.

    Even if I wish teams every other round the team that I will have joined will lose. And if one team has been constantly winning for the entire game, just utterly beating the crap out of the other, I can join that team and they'll lose.

    I don't get it. Even if I was the worst player on earth I shouldn't be so bad as to lose the game for my entire team on a constant basis.

    Does anyone else have a similar phenomenon to share? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because you're either the worst freaking player ever or you're just a crybaby.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    meh sometimes i get that when i play cs:s.

    I usually get so aggrivated from being team flashed all the time or subjected to stuff that would so get you killed (in both the game and in reality) of fired from your job that i have to quit for a while.


    This includes stuff like having to rechamber a round EVERY TIME you draw your sidearm. instead of just drawing and firing it.

    omg ive died so many times b/c of this. or that stupid "spin the desert eagle when you draw it" instead fo just being able to draw and fire. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    ok im ranting. time to shut up
    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    I don't agree with teamstacking if one side is winning... unless of course they're stacking to the losing side :3

    If one team is getting pounded enough I'll usually switch to turn the tables if I can; there's no fun in an easy victory. Besides... you're only as good as your opponents.
  • AldarisAldaris Join Date: 2002-03-25 Member: 351Members, Constellation
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Apr 18 2005, 01:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Apr 18 2005, 01:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> wellllll... they say a team is only as strong as it's weakest link <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Apr 18 2005, 08:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Apr 18 2005, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ... you're only as good as your opponents. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wait, if your team is only as good as its worst player, how can it also be as good/bad as your opponents? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    well I was trying to keep it simple but the full equation is the square root of the mean of your opposing team plus the co-efficient of the worst player in your team <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    orrrr you could just look at it like this...
    - Your team is only as strong as it's weakest member
    - Your personal skills at the game are tempered by the challenges you face.

    Therefore you're only as good as your opponents while your team is only as good as the weakest player. That means if you're the weakest player the teams are equal <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 18 2005, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 18 2005, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I really really suck at pool. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I used to, be since it's ALL I ever do on my lunch-breaks (I should probably be eatting!) i've gotten the hang of it and have learnt that certain Jukebox songs put certain people off! It's great!
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CMEast+Apr 18 2005, 06:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CMEast @ Apr 18 2005, 06:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 18 2005, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 18 2005, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I really really suck at pool. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    And note that my performance seems to have no affect on the win/lose relationship. I can be completely owning people, and be at the top of the scoreboard for my team, or I can be at the very bottom, and its the same result.

    But if the game is DM then usually I am in the top 5. Quake, UT, Action. I own at all of those.

    We need a true DM version of NS. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you ever fancy a hl2dm match then you know where to find me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Still trying to meet up with sonic for a game at some point.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If steam friends actually WORKED once in a lifetime we could
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    I'm random at pool... I'm usually not much good at it but sometimes for no apparent reason I get these sudden killer streaks where I just start potting everything and even pulling off trickshots. Dunno why but it's fun when it happens even if it doesn't last long :3
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    edited April 2005
    I occasionally have good streaks in pool. I haven't played in a while, but when I used to play all the time I did crazy things, such as hitting the cue ball AND another ball off of the table in a single shot, without trying to.
  • Quantum_MooseQuantum_Moose Join Date: 2005-03-05 Member: 43643Members
    Thanks for joining the human race.

    We're all doomed.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-heartshaped+Apr 18 2005, 11:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (heartshaped @ Apr 18 2005, 11:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 18 2005, 01:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 18 2005, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Something I've noticed is that when it comes to team-based multiplayer games, my team will always lose.

    NS? My team loses.
    NS:Combat? My team loses.
    CS:S? My team loses.
    BF:V? My team loses.

    You get the picture.

    It doesn't matter, the game, it doesn't matter what team I'm on, and it doesn't matter what server I'm on.

    Even if I wish teams every other round the team that I will have joined will lose. And if one team has been constantly winning for the entire game, just utterly beating the crap out of the other, I can join that team and they'll lose.

    I don't get it. Even if I was the worst player on earth I shouldn't be so bad as to lose the game for my entire team on a constant basis.

    Does anyone else have a similar phenomenon to share? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because you're either the worst freaking player ever or you're just a crybaby. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Woah, easy there newbie...
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-heartshaped+Apr 18 2005, 02:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (heartshaped @ Apr 18 2005, 02:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 18 2005, 01:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 18 2005, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Something I've noticed is that when it comes to team-based multiplayer games, my team will always lose.

    NS? My team loses.
    NS:Combat? My team loses.
    CS:S? My team loses.
    BF:V? My team loses.

    You get the picture.

    It doesn't matter, the game, it doesn't matter what team I'm on, and it doesn't matter what server I'm on.

    Even if I wish teams every other round the team that I will have joined will lose. And if one team has been constantly winning for the entire game, just utterly beating the crap out of the other, I can join that team and they'll lose.

    I don't get it. Even if I was the worst player on earth I shouldn't be so bad as to lose the game for my entire team on a constant basis.

    Does anyone else have a similar phenomenon to share? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because you're either the worst freaking player ever or you're just a crybaby. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ....now, normally I don't do this to new members, but
    /me points at postcount
    /me laughs

    No seriously, you deserve that. Insulting a well-known and well-respected forumite for no reason at all, when you see 3 pages of people congenially laughing along with him.....have some forum etiquette, man.


    ....I'm thinking of taking the "well-respected" part out....meh.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Change it to well-known. Why would we respect Doom? He loses games for us!

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Change it to well-mocked.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    But definetly don't change it to well-endowed.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    This only happens to me in zee Halo 2.

    I blame controllers.
  • kuperayekuperaye Join Date: 2003-03-14 Member: 14519Members, Constellation
    Your a loser, commit suicide its the only way out
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sky+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sky)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->....I'm thinking of taking the "well-respected" part out....meh. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Change it to well-known. Why would we respect Doom? He loses games for us!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Change it to well-mocked.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But definetly don't change it to well-endowed.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You guys are great. Its wonderful to have such friends. :)
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Wait... being Doom's friend is like being on his team. In life.





    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited April 2005
    mwahhaha.

    >:D


    <span style='font-size:5pt;line-height:100%'>TOOT TOOT</span>
  • Quantum_MooseQuantum_Moose Join Date: 2005-03-05 Member: 43643Members
    Its ok, you where simply born into an alternate reality where losing is the real goal.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Toot toot, indeed, Doomeh.
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