<!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Apr 22 2005, 04:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Apr 22 2005, 04:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> seems like hes bluffing if he realy knows who it is then he would go and take back the laptop <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's no fun though
In the thiefs shoes, I'd clean the laptop thouroughly to remove fingerprints on it. I'd then plug it into some obscure out of the way campus networck connection, then run away.
I used winamp and only got sound, I played it in the MIGHTY VLC MEDIA PLAYER, and it played fine.
Upon watching the video, he's bluffing.
"The people in Redmond, Washington were very interested to know that the same version of windows was being erm... signalled to them at the same time."
What a load of crap, Microsoft doesn't ring people up and tell them that someone has installed another copy of windows with the same key. Additionally, windows doesn't transmit a continuous signal to MSHQ.
Transponder? Don't make me laugh. Does he expect me to believe that there are position trackers scattered all over the campus, accurate enough to locate the laptop inside a particular room?
He makes brief mention of the wireless card. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no difference in the wireless card connecting to the uni's network, and the thief plugging it into the network directly. I know those network admins are pretty hot when it comes to blocking unauthorised network traffic, but I doubt they’d be quick enough to spot the lappy being plugged in and lumber to that network port and yell at someone.
He is obviously trying to scare the thief into a panic and behave irrationally in order to get his laptop back.
A transponder in the laptop? Ahahahahahahah, that's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Sure he COULD have put a transponder in there, but unless he's a secret agent, I doubt he did. And what's that about him being able to track down where the person is when they turn the computer on? It's not like they have a little radar showing where every computer on the campus is...
Even when the professor talks about the FBI handeling the matter, that's all BS. Why the hell would the FBI waste their time on a stolen laptop. Those are like the #1 stolen items in college! The only thing that would make me nervous (if I were the student) is that there were witnesses and they know who you are. After all the other crap he said, it's hard to beleive, but you never know...
<!--QuoteBegin-juice+Apr 22 2005, 06:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (juice @ Apr 22 2005, 06:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So sad; it all could have been prevented with one of those little locking cords. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yep. when i worked with IBM briefly as a temp, if you lost a laptop and you didn't lock it with a cord, you will be swimming in dog doo
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I haven't seen the video so I don't know what was said. But you *can* track a networked laptop. Either by plug or by wireless. And since most wireless access points aren't known for uber long ranges, you will get a small enough radius to start a workable search in.
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Guys, lets assume he's telling the truth on one thing: He's a consultant for a Fortue 1000 company, with the information available on that computer reaching $100,000,000 US. Now, if thats the case, I'm pretty flippin' sure that they'd put some tracking devices in there, and hell, being he also said the Fortune 1000 company was the largest in the nation, I'm sure that maybe even Microsoft would put up a red flag about it thanks to...."benefits" of being rich, eh?
I'm not saying he's telling the truth, but if just that one line was true- its likely the rest was too.
Quaunaut I was thinking the same... but Medhead is right. Why risk loosing 100 mill $ worth of data if you could just let it in a save place? Even if there is a transponder... there is always a chance of coorperations spying your data. And if that happens they are sure smart enough to disable any detecting devices.
Why carry around 5 computers when you only need to use one for your business work? One laptop can carry around all the portable information he needs, so why have two?
If he works for a biotech company, it stands to reason they'd have some sort of tracking system to avoid any sort of breach of information. Most companies are paranoid enough for this to be viable.
I'm no authority on windows, so the only thing I can SUGGEST is that if he works for a big company, and he lost the laptop, then they're going to be checking to see if its in use. Dunno how windows works for that, but I'm just tossing it into the circle.
TBH the bluffing argument is also good, but its an easy matter to check the lecturer's records and see if he IS connected to any company.
The time pressure seems a bit convenient, but again would tie into the premise of someone doing work for several groups.
At the end of the day, the thief has to be thinking "Did he fire six shots or only five".
<!--QuoteBegin-Necrosis+Apr 22 2005, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Apr 22 2005, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->At the end of the day, the thief has to be thinking "Did he fire six shots or only five".<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well said.
I'll just add my input real quick. The best way to verify this is to go and find this professor's records and see if he is associated with that company. Now I don't believe the professor named the company, which to me is shady because if he had, then at least it wouldn't have seemed he had anything to hide. However, if he does show up as a consultant to some Fortune 1000 company, the rest seems more reasonable. The transponder is BS <i>unless</i> this man is a consultant. Same with the FBI threat.
Now assuming this guy really does have information worth 100's of millions, but can didn't actually have witnesses, and could only find the computer once it is turned on, how would you deal with just that? The only thing I could think of was to;
<b>A.)</b> Take the computer apart, and remove the ethernet card, thus making it impossible for the computer to access the internet. Then turn the computer on, access the test information and do whatever the original plan was.
OR
<b>B.)</b> Leave the range of the wireless hubs on campus and turn on the computer then. Then go on to whatever the original plan was.
I am in <u>no way advocating</u> what this kid did, I'm just curious what his options are, if any.
You know, this all gives me a great idea for a character in a short story - a student who accidentally got million-dollar info into his grasp, escaped to the Indonesia, sold the data, and turned that 'initial funding' into a major corporation <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+Apr 25 2005, 10:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ Apr 25 2005, 10:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What is that whole "You need to prove you didn't copy anything" bullcrap? Innocent until proven guilty, anyone? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I was thinking the same. Even if someone stole his laptop, i still think that lecturer is evil.
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That's no fun though
I don't think he's bluffing.
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It was like a major WTHOMG<b>LOL</b> thing for us, hehe.
Can we all give a huge "0wned" for the theif? I think he's bluffing. Does anyone know if his stories check out?
Why don't you find out mr Berkley? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
--Scythe--
mp4 needs to be played in quicktime to work correctly on windows, unless you find a really good codec or somthing.
I used mplayer, and got only video.
Upon watching the video, he's bluffing.
"The people in Redmond, Washington were very interested to know that the same version of windows was being erm... signalled to them at the same time."
What a load of crap, Microsoft doesn't ring people up and tell them that someone has installed another copy of windows with the same key. Additionally, windows doesn't transmit a continuous signal to MSHQ.
Transponder? Don't make me laugh. Does he expect me to believe that there are position trackers scattered all over the campus, accurate enough to locate the laptop inside a particular room?
He makes brief mention of the wireless card. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no difference in the wireless card connecting to the uni's network, and the thief plugging it into the network directly. I know those network admins are pretty hot when it comes to blocking unauthorised network traffic, but I doubt they’d be quick enough to spot the lappy being plugged in and lumber to that network port and yell at someone.
He is obviously trying to scare the thief into a panic and behave irrationally in order to get his laptop back.
--Scythe--
This is just a guy who wants his laptop back and is hoping the person who stole it is technically inept and he can bluff his property back...
A transponder in the laptop? Ahahahahahahah, that's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Sure he COULD have put a transponder in there, but unless he's a secret agent, I doubt he did. And what's that about him being able to track down where the person is when they turn the computer on? It's not like they have a little radar showing where every computer on the campus is...
Even when the professor talks about the FBI handeling the matter, that's all BS. Why the hell would the FBI waste their time on a stolen laptop. Those are like the #1 stolen items in college! The only thing that would make me nervous (if I were the student) is that there were witnesses and they know who you are. After all the other crap he said, it's hard to beleive, but you never know...
yep. when i worked with IBM briefly as a temp, if you lost a laptop and you didn't lock it with a cord, you will be swimming in dog doo
I'm not saying he's telling the truth, but if just that one line was true- its likely the rest was too.
If he works for a biotech company, it stands to reason they'd have some sort of tracking system to avoid any sort of breach of information. Most companies are paranoid enough for this to be viable.
I'm no authority on windows, so the only thing I can SUGGEST is that if he works for a big company, and he lost the laptop, then they're going to be checking to see if its in use. Dunno how windows works for that, but I'm just tossing it into the circle.
TBH the bluffing argument is also good, but its an easy matter to check the lecturer's records and see if he IS connected to any company.
The time pressure seems a bit convenient, but again would tie into the premise of someone doing work for several groups.
At the end of the day, the thief has to be thinking "Did he fire six shots or only five".
Well said.
I'll just add my input real quick. The best way to verify this is to go and find this professor's records and see if he is associated with that company. Now I don't believe the professor named the company, which to me is shady because if he had, then at least it wouldn't have seemed he had anything to hide. However, if he does show up as a consultant to some Fortune 1000 company, the rest seems more reasonable. The transponder is BS <i>unless</i> this man is a consultant. Same with the FBI threat.
Now assuming this guy really does have information worth 100's of millions, but can didn't actually have witnesses, and could only find the computer once it is turned on, how would you deal with just that? The only thing I could think of was to;
<b>A.)</b> Take the computer apart, and remove the ethernet card, thus making it impossible for the computer to access the internet. Then turn the computer on, access the test information and do whatever the original plan was.
OR
<b>B.)</b> Leave the range of the wireless hubs on campus and turn on the computer then. Then go on to whatever the original plan was.
I am in <u>no way advocating</u> what this kid did, I'm just curious what his options are, if any.
I was thinking the same. Even if someone stole his laptop, i still think that lecturer is evil.