Athlon 64 Pcs

QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
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<div class="IPBDescription">What is Comparable with Intel?</div> I know how fast generally Intel Processors are. But these new Athlon 64s just confuse me.

What would be comparable(processor speed wise) to a Pentium 4, 3.0ghz?

And please list the Operating Frequency.
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  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    i just wanted to post first reply
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Apr 29 2005, 11:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Apr 29 2005, 11:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I know how fast generally Intel Processors are. But these new Athlon 64s just confuse me.

    What would be comparable(processor speed wise) to a Pentium 4, 3.0ghz?

    And please list the Operating Frequency. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think AMD actually has anything clocked up to 3 GHz, but if you're looking for the competitor to a P4 3.0 GHz, I believe that that is the Athlon XP 3000+. I think that the "3000+" means that it would perform as well as a 3 GHz from their last processor line. (Most people think that it's against the P4. It very well may be, so correct me if I'm wrong.)

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i just wanted to post first reply<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Congratulations, you're a moron. You win a cookie. But it's a cookie made with ground up maggots and bleach. Get off the forum if you don't meet the minimum IQ requirements, please.
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  • MrRadicalEdMrRadicalEd Turrent Master Join Date: 2004-08-13 Member: 30601Members
    edited April 2005
    You have to understand that with AMD processors is that their actual core clock speed cannot be compared directly to those of Intel processors as a whole. AMD labels their processors to the equivilant level of performance of Intel's scheme.


    As it turns out clock speed isn't everything and AMD is the crowning example of that, that's your short answer really.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrRadicalEd+Apr 29 2005, 09:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrRadicalEd @ Apr 29 2005, 09:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You have to understand that with AMD processors is that their actual core clock speed cannot be compared directly to those of Intel processors as a whole. AMD labels their processors to the equivilant level of performance of Intel's scheme.


    As it turns out clock speed isn't everything and AMD is the crowning example of that, that's your short answer really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Right, but I was just looking for comparable products, power-wise.

    I'm thinking of getting <a href='http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103502' target='_blank'>this</a> or <a href='http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103483' target='_blank'>this</a>.

    Which would ya'll reccomend of those 2? Or come up with your own, under $200 for price.
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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    You'll want the one with the 939 pin connection. Last I checked, general consensus was that the 754 pins would be phased out and 939 would be flagship.

    I've been looking at these too. Let us know how it works out for you.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Okay, would that 939(the first one) be compatable with <a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4s800-mx/overview.htm' target='_blank'>this</a>.
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited April 2005
    Nope, that's for a Pentium 4 processor only. Go for <a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket939/a8v-d/overview.htm' target='_blank'>this</a>. There's also a PCI-Express version, if you prefer. (A8V-E)

    [EDIT:] Or this, if you're on a tight budget. <a href='http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=K8V-X&langs=09' target='_blank'>http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=K8V-X&langs=09</a>
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Apr 29 2005, 09:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Apr 29 2005, 09:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nope, that's for a Pentium 4 processor only. Go for <a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket939/a8v-d/overview.htm' target='_blank'>this</a>. There's also a PCI-Express version, if you prefer. (A8V-E) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is it possible to get one both PCI express and AGP?
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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Apr 29 2005, 11:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Apr 29 2005, 11:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay, would that 939(the first one) be compatable with <a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4s800-mx/overview.htm' target='_blank'>this</a>. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope, that's the P4 version. Try <a href='http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket939/a8v-d/overview.htm' target='_blank'>this one instead.</a>
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Apr 29 2005, 12:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Apr 29 2005, 12:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Apr 29 2005, 09:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Apr 29 2005, 09:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nope, that's for a Pentium 4 processor only. Go for <a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket939/a8v-d/overview.htm' target='_blank'>this</a>. There's also a PCI-Express version, if you prefer. (A8V-E) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is it possible to get one both PCI express and AGP? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not as far as I know. You'd have to take the plunge and get an X600 or 800.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yeah. And what a plunge that is, for abajilliondollars.

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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    So far you're looking through Asus boards which means you'll be spending the bucks. If you're on a tight budget and you want a 939 board with an AGP port, <a href='http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813152052' target='_blank'>try this one.</a>
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    Or save your money. Saving isn't against the law except in Beverly Hills, California.
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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    you can go for a <a href='http://www.mwave.com/mwave/bundle.hmx' target='_blank'>motherboard and cpu bundle</a>? from Mwave... I like Mwave.
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  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Apr 29 2005, 11:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Apr 29 2005, 11:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah. And what a plunge that is, for abajilliondollars.

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    Well actually the X700's aren't too expensive, ~$175 is actually cheap for a graphics card in todays world.
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  • ShoeboxShoebox Join Date: 2004-11-15 Member: 32817Members
    my AMD 64 3200+ is clocked at 2.2 ghz and runs much faster than our other computer which is a P4 2.66 ghz. only thing is i went with the 754 pin which i kinda wish i didnt but o well. runs great.
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  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    The genral jist is this:

    If you're running in a 32 bit environment and do a lot of encoding (divx, virtual dub, winzip, lame, etc) then get a P4

    For everything else.. get an Athlon (gaming especailly)
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  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    I have a mobo for my LGA 775 mobo with PCI-E 16x and AGP 8x... Dunno the name, got it off of Newegg.
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