Lucid Dreaming

Pithlit · May 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">your experiences, your opinions.</div> Since teh Morpheus guys topic was locked, due to its obvious advertising nature, i openend this one.
Not to continue his very questionalbe claims, but to discuss the mattler of lucid dreaming
(the techinique to control what happens in your dreams)

Therefore i´d like to repost my last words in the dieing thread over there:

<a href='http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_Dreaming:_Introduction' target='_blank'>Info about Lucid dreaming</a>

and i have say, it IS fun and memorable and definitly worth a try if you got the time to apply the techniques they are describing.
The experience is ver rewarding.
I begun just recently to record my dreams via a weblog, since they are a good read after some time and i hate to forget them if they were good.

<a href='http://www.livejournal.com/users/dreameratwork/' target='_blank'>My Dreamdiary</a>

There isn´t much in there, yet, since i only record the larger ones and only if i got the time to do it (stupid collegue and its early hour work sad-fix.gif )
Well, its bound to grow in the future.

So please feel free to share your experiences with the subject, aswell as you view on possible dangers or benefits.

raz0r · May 2005

I just did a bit of reading on the subject, and I wouldn't mind trying this out sometime.

I, however, am not a morning person, and the thought of setting my alarm clock for 6am does not appeal to me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

So, no dreams of flying for me

Omegaman · May 2005

I can't control dreams that well, but I can will events to happen.

Example: If I'm dreaming about Luke and Vader fighting, and Vader is about to chop Luke in half, and I want Luke to jump out of the way, he will.

AllUrHiveRblong2us · May 2005

I used to be able to do something like that all the time when I was a little kid. I had these nightmares really bad all the time, and at some point I started this regimin of thinking really hard that I wouldn't have nightmares when I was just starting to go to sleep, and at one point during any of my dreams it was like I was watching a movie of myself, and if I said something all of the people in my dream would look around like the voice of god had just talked, it was really weird. So when I had a nightmare all I would do was yell really loudly for it to stop, and it would and sometimes I would just wake up. It was weird.

SoulSkorpion · May 2005

I used to get nightmares... until I started fighting back. Then they kinda turned into action movies, which was a lot of fun.

juice · May 2005

Many years ago I was having a dream where I was running, running away from a humanoid guy with big claws, kind of like freddy or wolverine.

Then I thought, hmm, this wouldn't happen in real life! But I didn't wake up right away. I stopped running, turned around, and said "No, b-****-ch," as I extended my hand in a "stop" gesture.

He sort of froze in time and then fell backwards like a cardboard cutout. I was free, haha. And I was still in the dream. I thought "don't lose this." And I began to try to float... and I started floating. Then I started to fly around, and it was fun. I could only manage it for what seemed like 10 seconds though, before I woke up.

Breakthrough · May 2005

I have no will to control my dreams, I like where they go and take me, although I have extremely weird dreams (my head is all cut up and my hair is falling out, WTH?). I do know that I realize that I'm in a dream, and then something else catches my attention and I forget it's a dream.

docchimpy · May 2005

DAMN, this sounds cool. I remember having a couple after actively trying to have them during the summer, but then school happened. They were awesome. NOrmally, however, I realize "WHOAMG IM DREAMING", then get about ten seconds to do whatever I can do in ten seconds, and then I have to force myself to keep sleeping. It's a really weird feeling.

Whee stream of conciousness.

Amped1 · May 2005

I think I accidently had a lucid dream. The basic story was that I had been murdered at my high school and I had decided to become a ghost and haunt the place. The most notable things I remember were:

-I could go into sort of a third person mode whenever I wanted. I was basically just a see through, blue-shaded me (yes, a ghost stereotype <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /> ).

-I remember seeing a buddy while just wandering through the halls (no one seemed to mind that I was a ghost, oddly). I went up to him and explained the rules of become a ghost. One of them was that ghost's had to stay on Earth until the end, but I wasn't worried because the end was very soon. Yet we acted like we were talking about the weather (he wasn't surprised by my statement).

-When I got angry (I forget why) I went on a rampage. Tipping stuff over, knocking stuff out of people's hands, giving rude gestures when I was visible, ah that was great <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /> .

-I remembered the dream extremely well (I remembered it like a regular memory, not just a few strange images).

That was a very interesting experience. I'd love to induce something like it again. Thanks for sharing.

Breakthrough · May 2005

Sleep paralisys FTL <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

Also, I give killer vibes to people - they always tell me about dreams they've had where I kill a lot of other people... Weird.

Vahn_Paktu · May 2005

I have never been able to control a dream. I also haven't had one in a while. I think my childhood nightmares forced my brain to shut them down so I don't remember them. That and my bad sleep habits.

Amped1 · May 2005

I think you are just used to dreaming and don't consiciously think of it when going to sleep/sleeping. I had some pretty terrifying nightmares as a kid and I remember dreams every so often in the present.

Drfuzzy · May 2005

I had lucid dreams a few times, but as soon as I thought 'oh cool this is a dream' I usually wake up a few seconds after, kinda like my dream state becomes unstable. For some reason, lucid dreams happen to me when I wake up from a good dream and I go back to sleep and go back into the good dream, but for some reason I remeber going back to sleep so I kinda know I'm dreaming. Weird to explain eh?

RaVe · May 2005

I'm so envious of everyone.

I couldn't remember any of my dreams....maybe apart from that one with that really big tsunami....

That was scary. I literally drowned in it and it felt like I was really in the water when I woke up.
Boo for breathlessness during wake ups >.>

EDIT : And all of my other dreams that I remember always end up with me jumping off some building's roof.
Tragic I know <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

Pithlit · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ May 7 2005, 05:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'm so envious of everyone.

I couldn't remember any of my dreams....maybe apart from that one with that really big tsunami....  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Its not easy to remember your dreams correctly if you don´t train it.
Often you have multiple dreams a night and when you remember them in the morning they mix up and start to get blurry.
But if you train to focus on what you dreamed that night, right after you wake up (yes, you need willpower <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />) it gets better and better and you will be able to recognise much more details.

And if you dream the dream again, you´ll notice that it is only a dream, because you can remember it.

For myself i have about 5 dreamsetting wich occur quite often and i have a good chance that, when one of these dreams come up, i´ll recognize it as a dream and the dream will stay stable. Thats because i go intop lucid "mode" right after reaching the dream. occasionally lucid dream happen because you get slowly concious at the end of you dream, but stick to it a little longer (the 10 sec some people have talked about)

Well for the recording dreams early in the morning, since im a lazy bum, i use a dictation machine (my crappy mp3 player <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />) to record them early in the morning, while staying in bed.
It doesn´t take as much time as writing and you can better concentrate if you talk about them.

Later i listen to the tape and write down what i said.
Usually if i listen to the tape, more details come alive aswell, since i sort of "relive" the dream.

If you have any possibilites to do things like this, you should really try it.

UltimaGecko · May 2005

I realise I'm dreaming ...probably every time. I don't remember them everynight, and they're a lot easy to remember if you've been interupted in sleeping [ie: roommate gets up and you notice you're awake for a secod] or if I sleep for a long time [sort of like with above, except that since being asleep for so long your sleep tends to naturally interupt itself]).

However, despite realising it's a dream (I have a very logical mind, and anything strange immediately draws my attention to being unrealistic (like my entire family eating mashed potatoes at my grandparents' cottage). I tend to let the dream continue however it wants, though. Sometimes I'll go through a door or leave a scene of my own free will (how could 10 people eating mashed potatoes possibly tell me about myself...or interest me in any way?), which generally tends me towards things I'd much rather dream about.

Sometimes you should just see what your brain wants to show you, and go with the flow (and since you can take control at any time you'll be a bit more apt to remember it). Maybe I'm just like that because I have a very visual memory, and if I wanted to "paint sunrises" I could do that whenever I want.

Cold_NiTe · May 2005

I've only ever had one lucid dream I could remember. It was back when I used to play svencoop a lot, I was 14 at the time I think. Anyway I played it for like 6 hours straight during the summer once, and when I went to sleep I dreamt I was chubby the chumtoad and I was hopping around watching Gordon go through the events at black mesa from all the vents. So like I'd have my own adventure as chubby then I'd look down from like the rafters or like one of those big fish tanks and see Gordon doing some famous scene like the first Marine Grunt battle.

DontShootMePlease · May 2005

I've had a few lucid dreams (though I didn't know they were called lucid dreams at the time). They always happen when I can tell myself that I'm dreaming. Sort of a realization thing, and then I've been able to control them. But they never last long after that point, similar to what the other person said, it sort of unstablizes the dream and I wake up, but it does last more than a few seconds.

I've heard of another thing, that if you can force yourself to look at your hands in your dream, then you can turn it into a lucid dream.

Lucid dreaming is very fun I must say, I wish I could do it more often. *keeps reading the info page to see if he can*

TheSavior · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I've had a few lucid dreams (though I didn't know they were called lucid dreams at the time). They always happen when I can tell myself that I'm dreaming. Sort of a realization thing, and then I've been able to control them. But they never last long after that point, similar to what the other person said, it sort of unstablizes the dream and I wake up, but it does last more than a few seconds.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

I dream like this about once a week... I rather enjoy it, really. Almost 95% of the time I somehow make the dream take place in a game-type setting.

I've dreamed where I was the last CT against an unknown number of T's at my school...
I've dreamed where I was a Marine with my best friend, both of us with Jetpacks, me with an HMG and him with a GL...
I've also dreamed alot of "fantasy" themed dreams... one where I was leading an Elven Legion against a bunch of...wierd looking things. I think that was one of my favorites.
Unfortunately, I've NEVER "completed" a dream like this. It always just starts at a random mid-point and ends before some sort of climax. For example, the most recent dream I had, the Elven Legion one, I woke up right after the archers fired and the foot-charge began.... uhg.

Depot · May 2005

I envy those who can recall their dreams ... I seldom do. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

Venmoch · May 2005

For me personally this seems like a really bad idea. Usually, I don't remember what I dream. However when I do, it tends to cross-over with the "Real" world. (A simple case in point, if I dream its Friday I will awake and believe it is Friday even though it may be Monday. However its also not been as trivial. I know I've woken up beliving a project to be broken or in the next day or even believe someone to have had an accident.)

I think I need to see a psychiatrist.

StormLiong · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ May 7 2005, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> For me personally this seems like a really bad idea. Usually, I don't remember what I dream. However when I do, it tends to cross-over with the "Real" world. (A simple case in point, if I dream its Friday I will awake and believe it is Friday even though it may be Monday. However its also not been as trivial. I know I've woken up beliving a project to be broken or in the next day or even believe someone to have had an accident.)

I think I need to see a psychiatrist. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Well I think i had it worse last week. I was day dreaming wat would happen if I won the lottery. I was planinng out how I would go and calmly make my claim, what investments I would make etc etc. I think I was day dreaming about it so hard (this was also in the morning when I was half awake) that the rest of the day I was haflly believing I actually won the lottery. THere was one moment I think I was just about to tell my friend I won the lottery. And every few minutes or so I had to really shake my head off to get me back to reality.

Scary <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Last time I ever try to day dream that hard

Lucid dreaming is ok. It really gives you complete freedom. ie You kill someone there, no one is there to stop you. All the moral/law boundaries are off there. Which I guess is dangerous but because lucid dreaming is such a hard thing to maintain, you will soon get back to reality when you wake up.

When someone invents technology to maintain lucid dreaming then its where it might get really dangerous.

TheSavior · May 2005

If we could have 24/7 Lucid dreaming, and if I DIDN'T already have a "life", I'd say hook me up to a human powered generator ala Matrix and let me Lucid Dream the rest of my life. Wake me up for sex.

Cold_NiTe · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheSavior @ May 7 2005, 10:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> If we could have 24/7 Lucid dreaming, and if I DIDN'T already have a "life", I'd say hook me up to a human powered generator ala Matrix and let me Lucid Dream the rest of my life. Wake me up for sex.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I think you meant, "put me to sleep for dreamsex."

InsaneBarney · May 2005

My dreams are pretty interesting.

Once I dreamed I was at this military complex, but it was being overrun by zombies.
So I made a break for the armory, running past a guy getting killed. Then when I get to the armory all they have are flipping muskets. Somehow I manage to make it into a truck with some other guy, but then during our escape we get run off the road by this maniac and die.

Apart from being interesting, they often make no sense whatsoever.

Cxwf · May 2005

Yeah...the problem with using Lucid Dreams to do things that aren't impossible, but are <i>wrong</i>, in Real Life, is that after a while that might start to affect your waking consciousness...

I mean, say you hate your boss. So you start having lucid dreams where you think of interesting ways to kill him. Nothing wrong with that, its just a dream, right? But what if you forget to do your "reality check" in one dream, go kill your boss, and then discover you were actually awake this time? Then you'll have lots of time to perfect lucid dreaming in jail...

I've had a few lucid dreams, but my problem is that the more lucid I get, the more my mind connects to my real life body, which is in sleep paralysis...so when I realize that I can supernaturally control the dream, at the same time I lose the ability to naturally control my body.

Best example, and the only one I still remember clearly...my first lucid dream, this was years ago. Somehow I realized that I was dreaming, and figured that meant I could control things. I was thirsty, and there was a glass of water on the table a few feet away from me. But I felt extremely tired, and couldn't move towards it to pick it up. So I decided to teleport to it, since it was a dream after all. So I closed my eyes, and reopened them in a different place. Didn't work very well though--I was teleporting, but I kept missing the glass of water. I teleported all around it without getting to it, and eventually woke up. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

Drfuzzy · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cxwf @ May 7 2005, 10:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Best example, and the only one I still remember clearly...my first lucid dream, this was years ago. Somehow I realized that I was dreaming, and figured that meant I could control things. I was thirsty, and there was a glass of water on the table a few feet away from me. But I felt extremely tired, and couldn't move towards it to pick it up. So I decided to teleport to it, since it was a dream after all. So I closed my eyes, and reopened them in a different place. Didn't work very well though--I was teleporting, but I kept missing the glass of water. I teleported all around it without getting to it, and eventually woke up. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Lol sounds like some fades I fight in pubs <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

I kinda like the dreams that dont make sense at all too, nothing is funnier than going all day thinking 'WTH....' because you had a dream about being a monkey that jumped on the clouds eating the singing bees.... lol

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