Microsoft Security Subscription

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Story is <a href='http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8A2EQ480.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down' target='_blank'>here</a>.

Basic info:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Microsoft Corp. is rolling out a test version of an all-in-one subscription service that aims to protect computer users from viruses and spyware and give them tools to make machines speedier.

The Redmond-based software company is distributing Windows OneCare to its 60,000 employees this week. It plans to run a larger invitation-only test this summer, then launch a full-scale test by year's end.

Microsoft hasn't set a price for an annual subscription, but Hamlin said it would include unlimited phone, e-mail and chat support.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So, Microsoft is going to finally release some attempt at fixing the problems they help make, and make us pay for it? Their free anti-spyware was a good step, but this just annoys me. Maybe I hate them too much already, and making people pay for anti-virus won't force people who work for Symantec or Mcaffee out of jobs at least, but this just feels wrong. I mean, we already have wonderful anti-virus programs like AVG and Avast which work just fine, and are free, and if I subscribe to this, now I have more crap running in the background chewing up more RAM, sigh.

Am I just bitter?

Comments

  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Depending on ones level of "Ethics" anything can be free.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 14 2005, 02:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 14 2005, 02:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Depending on ones level of "Ethics" anything can be free. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well done. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Comprox+May 14 2005, 02:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ May 14 2005, 02:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So, Microsoft is going to finally release some attempt at fixing the problems they help make, and make us pay for it? Their free anti-spyware was a good step, but this just annoys me. Maybe I hate them too much already, and making people pay for anti-virus won't force people who work for Symantec or Mcaffee out of jobs at least, but this just feels wrong. I mean, we already have wonderful anti-virus programs like AVG and Avast which work just fine, and are free, and if I subscribe to this, now I have more crap running in the background chewing up more RAM, sigh.

    Am I just bitter? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, you're bitter. You're also getting angry because a company is doing what a company should be: Making money. Microsoft has to pay people to develop this thing, to keep it updated, to watch for new viruses/malware and to provide support. This is <i>expensive</i>. You need to get out of your dream world if you think that Microsoft is EVER going to do ANYTHING out of the goodness of their hearts.

    I have no clue how the people who make AVG and Avast manage to stay afloat, since their sales numbers for the professional versions can't be that high, though...
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+May 14 2005, 03:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ May 14 2005, 03:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You need to get out of your dream world if you think that Microsoft is EVER going to do ANYTHING out of the goodness of their hearts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bill Gates is a philanthropist, you know. He's not a total monster or something.

    And uh... google: microsoft donates

    Or just <a href='http://www.google.com/search?q=microsoft+donates&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official' target='_blank'>click here</a> if you are lazy.

    So yeah please google "microsoft donates".
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited May 2005
    You know <i>why</i> they're donating money? It improves their image. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> People see that Microsoft is "generous", and they're drawn in to the whole 'family' image that companies tend to put out. They may even be donating only to causes that can benefit them in some way.

    I never said that he's a monster, I said that he's a businessman. People need to realize that he doesn't <i>care</i> if he makes you smile. He cares that he gets your money, so he will do what he has to to satisfy you and keep the cash heading his way.

    [EDIT:] And while Bill Gates may be a philanthropist, the company is not. He doesn't make every single decision for the company.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I won't be happy with microsoft until they donate to the "Give cwag a million bucks"
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    If Columbian drug lords donated millions to orphanages it wouldn't vindicate their business model either.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+May 14 2005, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ May 14 2005, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If Columbian drug lords donated millions to orphanages it wouldn't vindicate their business model either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dont blame them, it's just business <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+May 14 2005, 12:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ May 14 2005, 12:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+May 14 2005, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ May 14 2005, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If Columbian drug lords donated millions to orphanages it wouldn't vindicate their business model either. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dont blame them, it's just business <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well I wish they'd keep their business out of other people's noses. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    I dono...

    Personaly I see nothing wrong with MS doing this. The only way you can blame MS for the amount of malware on the net is by blaming them for making computers avalible to the common person.

    This is now making anti-malware avaliable to the common person. Yes, there are pleanty of free programs out there (AVG, Avast, Adware, SpybotS&D etc etc etc).

    However they don't have tech help, they don't have a help line, they have no customer suport (thus why they are free). This tends to make the free anti-malware programs not very viable to the barely computer literate.

    Now MS comes up with an all in on product, backed by one of the most well known brands in the world, with full tech help.....

    yah, they should charge for it. and I will be HAPPY when it comes out b/c that will be a large number of unsecure nodes sudenly nolonger acting as repeaters for this stupid crap.


    /me ponders in MonsE will show up and give us more info <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    One day I might understand why everyone here hates Microsoft.


    I doubt it.
  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Douglas Adams+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Douglas Adams)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+May 14 2005, 09:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ May 14 2005, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Douglas Adams+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Douglas Adams)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lets fix that quote shall we?

    <!--QuoteBegin-Douglas Adams+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Douglas Adams)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, <b> by making technology available to everyone, allowed them to use said technology in the first place. </b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I would also like to add in there, had Jobs not fscked up the first time by allowing gates to see mac source, there would never have been windows. :-)

    We would all be pwning on Mac OS instead.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 14 2005, 02:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 14 2005, 02:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We would all be pwning on Mac OS instead. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank god we're not.
  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+May 14 2005, 03:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ May 14 2005, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 14 2005, 02:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 14 2005, 02:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We would all be pwning on Mac OS instead. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank god we're not.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If Windows would have not been, Mac OS would actually have been more fleshed out, because they would have not had to work their way around patents layed down by microsoft.

    Cydane, you just contradicted yourself. If windows had not gotten out of the gate, Mac would have made technology centrally available to use. Anyway, I'm not a Mac fanboy. I hate Macs. But I also hate Microsoft fanboys.
  • TrevelyanTrevelyan Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14834Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+May 14 2005, 02:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ May 14 2005, 02:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Cydane, you just contradicted yourself. If windows had not gotten out of the gate, Mac would have made technology centrally available to use. Anyway, I'm not a Mac fanboy. I hate Macs. But I also hate Microsoft fanboys. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    so.... Linux FTW? o_O

    <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    Yep...Linux FTW. That's what I'm getting after I move out

    (They're probably going to have VR by then.)
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    Of course, if every OS was like Linux, most people still wouldn't have computers.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+May 14 2005, 02:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ May 14 2005, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yep...Linux FTW. That's what I'm getting after I move out

    (They're probably going to have VR by then.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You do realize the macintosh operating system was about quite a while before windows right? (Aka after the apple lisa)
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+May 14 2005, 10:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ May 14 2005, 10:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+May 14 2005, 12:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ May 14 2005, 12:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+May 14 2005, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ May 14 2005, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If Columbian drug lords donated millions to orphanages it wouldn't vindicate their business model either. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dont blame them, it's just business <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well I wish they'd keep their business out of other people's noses. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You, sir, win at the Internet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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