Music Cd Editing

CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Blasphemous fascism.</div> So, I was visiting my mom and she asks me to tag along to walmart so she can pick up some gardening supplies, and I go along planning to pick up S.O.A.D's newest album, when I get there Im happy that there are a bunch left, and I soon understand why. I was reading the tracklist and on the side it said "EDITED VERSION" They were ALL edited. Is it just me or is this just disgusting, I mean, the entire point of listening to them is to hear them hate on stuff exactly like this. Censorship is a P.O.S, just because some people can't properly raise their children the rest of us suffer. Rant over. (No, I didn't buy it.)

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  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    Edited? Naughty words cut out?
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Well considering all the pro-democracy propaganda this place has all over its walls I wouldn't discount the idea of them editing more of it. What drives me nuts is Wal-mart has all these pro-democracy posters and stuff and the United States isn't even a democracy, its a republic.
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    Some of the songs might have a political aspect to them...like BYOB I suppose, but half of them are about having a big **** aren't they? I never really read that much into them...but still I don't see why it should be edited, you got the whole freedom of speech and 1st amendment thing going down havent you.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    No and wal-mart has proven the only thing that matters in life is the $$$CASHMONEY$$$
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited May 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:white'><u>Music Cd Editing</u></span>
    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:grey'>Yet another reason to use absolutely overblown adjectives.</span></span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They're Wal Mart, CWAG. A retail store chain. To proclaim in an accusing tone of voice that they're all about the cash is like blaming fire for being hot.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    Censorship commits Blasphemous, vehicular manslaughter on my creative mind... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+May 21 2005, 05:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ May 21 2005, 05:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:white'><u>Music Cd Editing</u></span>
    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:grey'>Yet another reason to use absolutely overblown adjectives.</span></span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They're Wal Mart, CWAG. A retail store chain. To proclaim in an accusing tone of voice that they're all about the cash is like blaming fire for being hot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fire also burns.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Only burns when combined with oxygen though...

    Food for thought.
  • SpacerSpacer Invented dogs Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16008Members
    And what's the point in fire if there's nothing to cook! EH!?
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 21 2005, 11:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 21 2005, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+May 21 2005, 05:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ May 21 2005, 05:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They're Wal Mart, CWAG. A retail store chain. To proclaim in an accusing tone of voice that they're all about the cash is like blaming fire for being hot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fire also burns. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well then, stay out of it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Black_ViperBlack_Viper Join Date: 2003-12-08 Member: 24157Members
    Oh theres your problem, Wal-Mart, its the reason for everything, never trust that yellow happy face... Ive heard stories about him, he may seem nice on TV and in the Store, but behind closed doors, *Chills* Its just better to say go to another place that focuses on music and not world domination.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    Who cares? Honestly, it's freakin' WAL MART! Jesus Christ on a Stick, it's not like they're actually trying to appeal to a 20 year old communist. They don't care about you, CWAG. They care about the fact that they're supposed to be a "Family Friendly" company, and one of the points to make sure that they stay that way in people's minds is by editing CD's, not selling porn, etc.

    Really, get off your little box and sit down. Censorship is a fact of life. Any respectful person censors themselves at some point. Most people do it everyday. Editing provides a compromise for parents who don't feel like letting their kids hear filthy language from yet another source. It only works for a few years, but the biggest market for nu-metal and angst metal is the 13-16 year old market anyways.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-illuminex+May 21 2005, 10:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illuminex @ May 21 2005, 10:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Who cares? Honestly, it's freakin' WAL MART! Jesus Christ on a Stick, it's not like they're actually trying to appeal to a 20 year old communist. They don't care about you, CWAG. They care about the fact that they're supposed to be a "Family Friendly" company, and one of the points to make sure that they stay that way in people's minds is by editing CD's, not selling porn, etc.

    Really, get off your little box and sit down. Censorship is a fact of life. Any respectful person censors themselves at some point. Most people do it everyday. Editing provides a compromise for parents who don't feel like letting their kids hear filthy language from yet another source. It only works for a few years, but the biggest market for nu-metal and angst metal is the 13-16 year old market anyways. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Family friendly=!Ruthlessness.
  • SpacerSpacer Invented dogs Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16008Members
    This situation could be resolved by buying it from somewhere else.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Spacer+May 21 2005, 11:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer @ May 21 2005, 11:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This situation could be resolved by buying it from somewhere else.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This situation could be resolved by buying it from somewhere else.
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dubbilex+May 21 2005, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dubbilex @ May 21 2005, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Spacer+May 21 2005, 11:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer @ May 21 2005, 11:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This situation could be resolved by buying it from somewhere else.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This situation could be resolved by buying it from somewhere else. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He didn't buy it there, one assumes he went elsewhere if he got it at all. He still has the right to complain <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    In that case, perhaps this is a nice lesson that I, truthfully, had figured that most everybody had already learned: Wal-mart edits music. DO NOT SHOP AT WAL-MART FOR MUSIC UNLESS YOU ARE LOOKING FOR EDITED MUSIC.

    (although I've bought music from there in the past, and it has not been edited. They usually have both versions, for you, the consumer's, convenience.)
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Goes to show how frequent I shop there, I also don't have anywhere else to buy it from other than wal-mart so once again p2p saves the day.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Online sources work well.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    CWAG was correct about this from the beginning, folks.

    Remember how we had many, many huge trials a decade ago, and those others that were 2, 3, and 4 decades ago, all banning censorship?

    <b>Thats</b> whats wrong here. What the f*** is the use of courts if they don't do jack s***?
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 21 2005, 09:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 21 2005, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->CWAG was correct about this from the beginning, folks.

    Remember how we had many, many huge trials a decade ago, and those others that were 2, 3, and 4 decades ago, all banning censorship?

    <b>Thats</b> whats wrong here. What the f*** is the use of courts if they don't do jack s***?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because you can shop at a million other places? Is Sam Walton holding a gun to your head and forcing you to see him for the relief of all those secret and dirty music needs?

    Like I said - I'm nearly positive that Wal-Mart carries both versions (clean and unedited). It would just appear that the freakish nu-metal animals had already gotten to the unedited albums before our intrepid enemy of the state arrived there in the first place.

    Or hell, maybe the explicit things I've bought there in the past were just examples of albums that had slipped through the cracks. In that case, get it from any of a billion other fine retailers around the country; an example being Amazon dot com (I've heard rumors that they'll deliver right to your <i>house</i>!).
  • theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
    Walmart doesn't carry explicit media for the same reason why EA doesn't release M-rated games. They make more money that way. Think about it. Lots of teenage kids bug their parents to buy them the latest album. The parents are OK with buying an album for the kids, but not one that is vulgar. If Walmart is the only major chain that offers censored CDs, then they'll get 100% of the concerned parent market.

    Sure, it sucks, but it wouldn't exist if there wasn't demand for it. Walmart sucks anyway, I won't shop there if I have other options.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 21 2005, 09:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 21 2005, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CWAG was correct about this from the beginning, folks.

    Remember how we had many, many huge trials a decade ago, and those others that were 2, 3, and 4 decades ago, all banning censorship?

    <b>Thats</b> whats wrong here. What the f*** is the use of courts if they don't do jack s***? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can't get my music at the same place I get my milk and ice cream sandwiches because the bad man edited the bad words out of the CD and then wrote on the CD case that they did. Boo freaking hoo.

    I blame the NS boards for censoring me when I say ****, **** or ****.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    commie, you have the pirate king as your avatar.

    you dissapoint me
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 21 2005, 05:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 21 2005, 05:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So, I was visiting my mom and she asks me to tag along to walmart <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    See that was your first problem...

    Walmart like bans and censors everything <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Dont go there to by overpriced content edited cds. Go elsewhere and get the real deal.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    ROFL you went shopping for music... At WALMART!? HAHHAHAHA

    I laugh at you. I knew better since I was 10 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Well I sure as hell wasn't going to drive 70 miles to the mall, spending 20 bucks on gas on a 14 dollar cd.
  • CageyCagey Ex-Unknown Worlds Programmer Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8829Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 21 2005, 06:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 21 2005, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CWAG was correct about this from the beginning, folks.

    Remember how we had many, many huge trials a decade ago, and those others that were 2, 3, and 4 decades ago, all banning censorship?

    <b>Thats</b> whats wrong here. What the f*** is the use of courts if they don't do jack s***? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Those trials established that recording artists had the right to distribute whatever they wanted. Those trials did not establish that retail store owners must stock things that they don't agree with (freedom of speech doesn't cover using the private property of others without their permission). If a court ruled that I had to allow a piece of music, art, or literature into my home or business even if I didn't want it there, that's *not* defending freedom.

    As long as they can still sell the unedited version somewhere else, I don't see the problem... vote with your wallet that you prefer unedited music. Besides, it's not like the edited versions are bootleg--either the artist or (more likely) the publisher had to give a green flag to the edited cuts for them to be produced; Wal-Mart isn't going to actually censor music without permission--they wouldn't want to deal with the lawsuits. If you want to be **** at someone, be **** at the publisher that felt watering down the music was worth a the money.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited May 2005
    Dubbliex already gave the <a href='http://www.amazon.com' target='_blank'>answer</a>. Wait 'till you have two CDs to buy, and shipping's free.
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