Ubuntu Has An Usurper

CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
edited May 2005 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Interested in linux, but fearful?</div> A week ago I raved about Ubuntu thinking how could anything possibly be any more convienient than ubuntu and still be Linux?



Behold, Mepis.



First things first. This thing has 3d support out-of-the box. IE: I download say, Enemy territory, install it, and go. No fooling with xservers config. None. Combined with cedega/wineX it feels exactly like windows, sans the bloat. I highly reccomend this distrobution to anyone who is looking for a windows replacement but is afraid of technical mumbo jumbo related to setting up 3D.


Mepis fits in 1 single CD-R/RW Its a live-cd, but has an icon on the desktop that says "install mepis to hard-drive" Which, does the obvious. Don't want to delete windows to try this? Dont have to. Mepis has a built in partitioning tool that is able to split up the windows partition into a second virtual drive, without damaging anything.

www.mepis.org




EDIT:

Yes, it can read/write from NTFS. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    Is there a secret communist rule about not giving people <a href='http://www.mepis.org/' target='_blank'>clickable links</a> to help the cause?
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Man Linux is way too goddamned complicated. I give up. I was all for putting it on this computer when I get my second, but reading instruction for setting it up had me checking if I'm a native english speaker or not. Christ. Why don't these people ever design programs for idiots.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ZeroByte+May 29 2005, 02:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZeroByte @ May 29 2005, 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is there a secret communist rule about not giving people <a href='http://www.mepis.org/' target='_blank'>clickable links</a> to help the cause? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes there is, and CWAG is infamous for doing just that.

    After all, he can't be bothered to type the extra http://.
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    While on this topic, I have a quck question. Whenever I try and boot my computer from any type of bootable CD (such as Windows) it does not read the dic for some reason. My main disc drive is a Lite-On DVD-ROM drive and my secondary drive is a CD/RW. What gives? Shouldn't I be able to boot a bootable disk from a DVD-ROM drive? And yes, it appears to be set correctly in the BIOS.

    Not trying to hojack this thread, I'm just curious.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BaconTheory+May 29 2005, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BaconTheory @ May 29 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> While on this topic, I have a quck question. Whenever I try and boot my computer from any type of bootable CD (such as Windows) it does not read the dic for some reason. My main disc drive is a Lite-On DVD-ROM drive and my secondary drive is a CD/RW. What gives? Shouldn't I be able to boot a bootable disk from a DVD-ROM drive? And yes, it appears to be set correctly in the BIOS.

    Not trying to hojack this thread, I'm just curious. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Does your bios have a specific key you need to press? Mine does, I can't boot from anything besides HD, unless I press F9 and choose USB/NETWORK/CD/FLOPPY
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    So it sets up dual booting for you? That's the only thing that has kept me from trying linux.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+May 29 2005, 03:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ May 29 2005, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Man Linux is way too goddamned complicated. I give up. I was all for putting it on this computer when I get my second, but reading instruction for setting it up had me checking if I'm a native english speaker or not. Christ. Why don't these people ever design programs for idiots. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I am really new too, in fact today was the first time I ever gamed on linux (I just got mepis today)

    So easy, my games all perform better so far under linux too, and my network connection to steam is going at the full 1.5mbps I assigned it, under windows I never got more than half of that
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+May 29 2005, 03:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ May 29 2005, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So it sets up dual booting for you? That's the only thing that has kept me from trying linux. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You do have to pay attention and read the instructions, but yes, you boot to the Live CD, click install to HD, choose the partition tool and just read carefully.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+May 29 2005, 02:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ May 29 2005, 02:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Man Linux is way too goddamned complicated. I give up. I was all for putting it on this computer when I get my second, but reading instruction for setting it up had me checking if I'm a native english speaker or not. Christ. Why don't these people ever design programs for idiots. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because they don't expect idiots to use em?

    What distrobution were you trying to set up? Even Gentoo, which has one of the most compilicated installs I've seen comes with noce documentation and as long as you read it you can't mess up.

    If you go in looking for a Windows replacment, you will fail, because it's not, it's not even close to Windows, as it is in fact Linux.

    Linux is fine if you enjoy tweeking, I think Commie is trying too hard to find a replacement for Windows to which I'd say check out RiscOS, but yea...
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 29 2005, 03:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 29 2005, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BaconTheory+May 29 2005, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BaconTheory @ May 29 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> While on this topic, I have a quck question. Whenever I try and boot my computer from any type of bootable CD (such as Windows) it does not read the dic for some reason. My main disc drive is a Lite-On DVD-ROM drive and my secondary drive is a CD/RW. What gives? Shouldn't I be able to boot a bootable disk from a DVD-ROM drive? And yes, it appears to be set correctly in the BIOS.

    Not trying to hojack this thread, I'm just curious. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Does your bios have a specific key you need to press? Mine does, I can't boot from anything besides HD, unless I press F9 and choose USB/NETWORK/CD/FLOPPY <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It lets me set which devices to boot in what order in the BIOS.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <insert random bashing of the evil penguin using analogies using pocket protectors, glasses, eccentric behavior, and likes there-of>
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BaconTheory+May 29 2005, 03:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BaconTheory @ May 29 2005, 03:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 29 2005, 03:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 29 2005, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BaconTheory+May 29 2005, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BaconTheory @ May 29 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> While on this topic, I have a quck question. Whenever I try and boot my computer from any type of bootable CD (such as Windows) it does not read the dic for some reason. My main disc drive is a Lite-On DVD-ROM drive and my secondary drive is a CD/RW. What gives? Shouldn't I be able to boot a bootable disk from a DVD-ROM drive? And yes, it appears to be set correctly in the BIOS.

    Not trying to hojack this thread, I'm just curious. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Does your bios have a specific key you need to press? Mine does, I can't boot from anything besides HD, unless I press F9 and choose USB/NETWORK/CD/FLOPPY <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It lets me set which devices to boot in what order in the BIOS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Set them all to CD and make sure the ISOs were burned properly
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    hmmm.. tempting to try... i am certainly going to at least attempt installing linux on my new machine whenever i can get around to buying the damn thing, this distribution would be the one for me to try <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Its tempting... but do I dare join the Dark Side?
  • BryBry Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12609Members
    Is this like knoppix which can be run purely from the cd? i.e. no installtion required?

    If not then i really recommend people try <a href='http://www.knoppix.org/' target='_blank'>knoppix</a> as you dont need to worry about installing or partioning as it runs straight off the cd <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Otheriws eif this does run off cd then just download it burn it and see what it is like at end of the day all you can lose is 1 cd
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Bry+May 29 2005, 04:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bry @ May 29 2005, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is this like knoppix which can be run purely from the cd? i.e. no installtion required?

    If not then i really recommend people try <a href='http://www.knoppix.org/' target='_blank'>knoppix</a> as you dont need to worry about installing or partioning as it runs straight off the cd <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Otheriws eif this does run off cd then just download it burn it and see what it is like at end of the day all you can lose is 1 cd <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Unless you use CDRW like me.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Bry+May 29 2005, 04:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bry @ May 29 2005, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is this like knoppix which can be run purely from the cd? i.e. no installtion required?

    If not then i really recommend people try <a href='http://www.knoppix.org/' target='_blank'>knoppix</a> as you dont need to worry about installing or partioning as it runs straight off the cd <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Otheriws eif this does run off cd then just download it burn it and see what it is like at end of the day all you can lose is 1 cd <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Its live CD that can do all that a live CD can, and more. Also, its the main install method.
  • antifreezeantifreeze The guy with the goods&#33; Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16232Members, Constellation
    CWAG, awesome. now this one i am interested in.

    Can it run from NTFS? Does it have any laptop battery management support?
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    as stated earlier in the thread, yes it runs from an NTFS disk
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-antifreeze+May 29 2005, 05:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (antifreeze @ May 29 2005, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CWAG, awesome. now this one i am interested in.

    Can it run from NTFS? Does it have any laptop battery management support? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, Im not sure about the battery, but I was able to copy files from NTFS.
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    I might try this, I tried Fedora Core a long while ago, but never really got to do much with it.
    This looks easy.

    In related news -
    <a href='http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/' target='_blank'>Damn Small Linux</a> seems interesting.
    It's only 50megs, and can apparently 'Boot from within a host operating system (that's right, it can run *inside* Windows)'
    Handy for trying thing's out , providing it all works correctly.
    I'm downloading now.
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-UnCritical+May 29 2005, 06:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnCritical @ May 29 2005, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I might try this, I tried Fedora Core a long while ago, but never really got to do much with it.
    This looks easy.

    In related news -
    <a href='http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/' target='_blank'>Damn Small Linux</a> seems interesting.
    It's only 50megs, and can apparently 'Boot from within a host operating system (that's right, it can run *inside* Windows)'
    Handy for trying thing's out , providing it all works correctly.
    I'm downloading now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    DSL seems interesting...I'm going to give it a try.
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    Here it is folks, Damn Small Linux running inside Windows:

    <img src='http://img75.echo.cx/img75/1172/dsl0112hy.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • TheSaviorTheSavior Join Date: 2003-10-14 Member: 21688Members
    edited May 2005
    I'm in the mood to reformat soon... and I've lost my Winxp Pro CD's...

    I might give this a shot... I use a *slightly* modified compaq presario. (All things original save for the Video card, all of the ram, and the power supply.)

    Any tips? I really only play MMORPG's...and occasional Steam games. Nothing else, for the most part.

    I hear this talk of NTSF and hooba-jooba such - I'm not adept at all this, but I can quickly learn my way around.

    Anyone think I should just avoid this out-right? If I should, anyone have any suggestions for a reasonable alternative to Windows?
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Would it be possible to put this on a Macintosh Laptop?
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+May 29 2005, 08:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ May 29 2005, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Would it be possible to put this on a Macintosh Laptop? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes, most linux distros have ppc isos
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    What exactly is the difference between the Pro and "Simply" ISOs? Does the pro one simply come with more software?
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-GWAR+May 29 2005, 09:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GWAR @ May 29 2005, 09:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What exactly is the difference between the Pro and "Simply" ISOs? Does the pro one simply come with more software? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just get simply the differences are not obvious at all, if any.
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    It seems mepis is a no-go on my rig, I get up to to the point where its loading the GUI and it spits me to console instead. Chances are if I did get it to install to HD it would do the same thing to me.

    Funny that knoppix never gave me any problems at all =X Are there any other good distros out there with 3D support from install?
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    *le sigh*

    It all becomes so much easier if you tweak it yourself. Installing drivers isn't that hard if you rtfm for a while untill you get the hang of things.

    Compile a kernel module, insert said module. Viola! 3D support!
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