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<!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Jun 1 2005, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jun 1 2005, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+Jun 2 2005, 01:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Jun 2 2005, 01:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Valve has EA's talent in a single cell of it's body
And that's being generous to EA <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And that's being insulting to all EA's talented workers who are just doing their jobs and have no creative input as to what the game they're crunching this week is.
Sure, year after year cranking out a shinier version of a sports franchise is dull, but hey, that's gone on year after year, that's not a recent thing and it's most certainly not an exclusive thing. Other companies do it now, other companies did it then. Live with it.
The games industry, whilst still pretty removed from the likes of the music or film industry, is growing more and more with each new year, heaven forbid making your company profitable!
The music industry has existed for decades, and are there still independant musicians and publishers? Yes.
The film industry has existed for decades, and are there still independant films? Yes.
The games industry is still pretty much in it's infancy compared to the aformentioned entertainment giants, you really can't expect big companies to simply not exist or turn down a profit, can you. That's just being niave.
EDIT: And on the Valve issue, i really wish people would stop brown-nosing them quite so much. Valve made a total fluke with Half-Life, it turned out very successful and very popular, which isn't too common with new, independant developers, and followed it up with a game that would've sold millions <i>even if it sucked</i>. So that's a grand total of 2 games they've put out, and the second one they did, in a number of areas, a pretty sloppy job with. Now compare that to EA who have some extremely talented coders, artists, mappers, etc. Just because they're a profitable company, that gives you the right to insult what are some very talented people working under their banner? I thought not. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Only 2 games, but i know I would be hard-pressed to find a company that supported its games better than Valve.
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+Jun 2 2005, 09:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ Jun 2 2005, 09:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-raz0r+Jun 2 2005, 03:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (raz0r @ Jun 2 2005, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Jun 2 2005, 05:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Jun 2 2005, 05:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Drfuzzy+Jun 1 2005, 09:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drfuzzy @ Jun 1 2005, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Microsoft is almost just as bad, they bought out rare, which was extremly flipping stupid. Rare made awesome games, like goldeneye and perfect dark. We wont see perfect dark 2 because of them, gg m$ :/
ONLY thing I didnt like about rare was that their titles were nintendo-only, no pc versions for the awesome games like stated above <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Rare has been a overrated developer since the day they were borne into existence. None of their games have been above average, and everyone overlooks their downright bad games. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Name me a bad Rare game.
from back in the N64 days, that is, because all their good talent left when microsoft bought them out. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, Banjo-Kazooie, the original one, was average. I quite liked 2, though. Rare has been doing awful lately because microsoft is so wrapped up into the "Adult" gaming scene, a game such as Banjo-Kazooie would be canceled the minute a Rare director thought it up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-WaterBoy+Jun 2 2005, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WaterBoy @ Jun 2 2005, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Jun 1 2005, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jun 1 2005, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+Jun 2 2005, 01:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Jun 2 2005, 01:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Valve has EA's talent in a single cell of it's body
And that's being generous to EA <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And that's being insulting to all EA's talented workers who are just doing their jobs and have no creative input as to what the game they're crunching this week is.
Sure, year after year cranking out a shinier version of a sports franchise is dull, but hey, that's gone on year after year, that's not a recent thing and it's most certainly not an exclusive thing. Other companies do it now, other companies did it then. Live with it.
The games industry, whilst still pretty removed from the likes of the music or film industry, is growing more and more with each new year, heaven forbid making your company profitable!
The music industry has existed for decades, and are there still independant musicians and publishers? Yes.
The film industry has existed for decades, and are there still independant films? Yes.
The games industry is still pretty much in it's infancy compared to the aformentioned entertainment giants, you really can't expect big companies to simply not exist or turn down a profit, can you. That's just being niave.
EDIT: And on the Valve issue, i really wish people would stop brown-nosing them quite so much. Valve made a total fluke with Half-Life, it turned out very successful and very popular, which isn't too common with new, independant developers, and followed it up with a game that would've sold millions <i>even if it sucked</i>. So that's a grand total of 2 games they've put out, and the second one they did, in a number of areas, a pretty sloppy job with. Now compare that to EA who have some extremely talented coders, artists, mappers, etc. Just because they're a profitable company, that gives you the right to insult what are some very talented people working under their banner? I thought not. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Only 2 games, but i know I would be hard-pressed to find a company that supported its games better than Valve. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Or Blizzard.
"EA sucks my b**s, infact, the E sucks my right, and the A my left." Pure pwnage couldnt have said it better. Man i love that show <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-WaterBoy+Jun 2 2005, 01:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WaterBoy @ Jun 2 2005, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Only 2 games, but i know I would be hard-pressed to find a company that supported its games better than Valve. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Epic.
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And that's being generous to EA <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And that's being insulting to all EA's talented workers who are just doing their jobs and have no creative input as to what the game they're crunching this week is.
Sure, year after year cranking out a shinier version of a sports franchise is dull, but hey, that's gone on year after year, that's not a recent thing and it's most certainly not an exclusive thing. Other companies do it now, other companies did it then. Live with it.
The games industry, whilst still pretty removed from the likes of the music or film industry, is growing more and more with each new year, heaven forbid making your company profitable!
The music industry has existed for decades, and are there still independant musicians and publishers? Yes.
The film industry has existed for decades, and are there still independant films? Yes.
The games industry is still pretty much in it's infancy compared to the aformentioned entertainment giants, you really can't expect big companies to simply not exist or turn down a profit, can you. That's just being niave.
EDIT: And on the Valve issue, i really wish people would stop brown-nosing them quite so much. Valve made a total fluke with Half-Life, it turned out very successful and very popular, which isn't too common with new, independant developers, and followed it up with a game that would've sold millions <i>even if it sucked</i>. So that's a grand total of 2 games they've put out, and the second one they did, in a number of areas, a pretty sloppy job with. Now compare that to EA who have some extremely talented coders, artists, mappers, etc. Just because they're a profitable company, that gives you the right to insult what are some very talented people working under their banner? I thought not. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only 2 games, but i know I would be hard-pressed to find a company that supported its games better than Valve.
ONLY thing I didnt like about rare was that their titles were nintendo-only, no pc versions for the awesome games like stated above <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Rare has been a overrated developer since the day they were borne into existence. None of their games have been above average, and everyone overlooks their downright bad games. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Name me a bad Rare game.
from back in the N64 days, that is, because all their good talent left when microsoft bought them out. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, Banjo-Kazooie, the original one, was average. I quite liked 2, though. Rare has been doing awful lately because
microsoft is so wrapped up into the "Adult" gaming scene, a game such as Banjo-Kazooie would be canceled the minute a Rare director thought it up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Banjo Kazooie was good!
And that's being generous to EA <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And that's being insulting to all EA's talented workers who are just doing their jobs and have no creative input as to what the game they're crunching this week is.
Sure, year after year cranking out a shinier version of a sports franchise is dull, but hey, that's gone on year after year, that's not a recent thing and it's most certainly not an exclusive thing. Other companies do it now, other companies did it then. Live with it.
The games industry, whilst still pretty removed from the likes of the music or film industry, is growing more and more with each new year, heaven forbid making your company profitable!
The music industry has existed for decades, and are there still independant musicians and publishers? Yes.
The film industry has existed for decades, and are there still independant films? Yes.
The games industry is still pretty much in it's infancy compared to the aformentioned entertainment giants, you really can't expect big companies to simply not exist or turn down a profit, can you. That's just being niave.
EDIT: And on the Valve issue, i really wish people would stop brown-nosing them quite so much. Valve made a total fluke with Half-Life, it turned out very successful and very popular, which isn't too common with new, independant developers, and followed it up with a game that would've sold millions <i>even if it sucked</i>. So that's a grand total of 2 games they've put out, and the second one they did, in a number of areas, a pretty sloppy job with. Now compare that to EA who have some extremely talented coders, artists, mappers, etc. Just because they're a profitable company, that gives you the right to insult what are some very talented people working under their banner? I thought not. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only 2 games, but i know I would be hard-pressed to find a company that supported its games better than Valve. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or Blizzard.
Pure pwnage couldnt have said it better. Man i love that show <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Epic.