Problems Lockups/freezes/no Boot

Black_Viper

<div class="IPBDescription">AMD 64 3200+ Help, support forums=dead</div> I asked the same question at every forum i belong in, and i still need help. Know where i can get help? Im not sure whats the problem, so i dont know where to ask this...

Hey there, just built a new computer. Had some troubles with it and wanted to know if you could help me. This is my first time buildign a computer, and i dont know whats going wrong.

Just got:
AMD 64 3200+ Socket 939
Chaintech S1689 Mobo
Corsair Value Select PC3200 Dual Channel (2GB Memory Kit) 184-pin DDR400
500W Intel/AMD ready, Dual Fans(80mm), Dual Heatsinks (Made by MGE)
Ultra Fire HeatPipe/Dual 80mm Fan
One CD-Rom 52X
One Floppy
Two 40 Gig Maxtor IDE Hardrives (One unpluged for time being)
SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit
BFG GeForece FX5500 (Soon to be GeForce 6800)
D-link Wireless Adapter (802.11G 108Mbps)

My problem is that when i can actualy boot into Windows XP Pro it takes forever to load any kind of program, Internet Explorer/Firefox, And after 2-3 mins of browsing my computer freezes for a few seconds, then later on it locks up completly. Sometimes Xp doesnt even get loaded before it locksup on me.

Can be getting to hot, ive got 6 80mm fans, and one 120mm fan.
2 80mm on case(One front/One Side), 2 80mm on Heatsink for CPU, 2 80mm in Powersupply, 1 120mm in back of case. Normal Temp in Bios(On chip) = 40*c Temp in case 30/32*c.

So far ive tryed to unplug uneeded things, like extra hhd, sound card, ive tryed to load windows with just floppy/cdrom/video/hhd1/one stick of ram(Both at different intervals); Tryed disabling Cool 'n' Quiet, ?underclocking?... Its at 800Mhz FSB? Im not to sure about all this(Clocking and whant not). Im pretty sure its down to being RAM/CPU/Mobo.

My dad is the main coputer dude around here, but hes away on a trip right now, and ive got a tournament for a game of mine tonight

Cyndane

Patchy knows the answer. :-)

Black_Viper

Okay, so i jsut tryed one stick of ram, and im thinking one of them was bad... I had no problems, and i restarted to see if i can get the internet working on it now.

Lt_Patch

Go into the BIOS, and set "Load Defaults".

Use only one stick of RAM for troubleshooting purposes, change NO BIOS settings until you're certain the settings aren't affecting it.

This sounds like a dodgy RAM problem to me, at a quick glance.

Settings for any hardware, if you want to know.

CPU, All s939 AMD A64's
FSB: 800MHz, effective.
HT Frequency: 2000MT/s
Cool 'n Quiet: OFF (buggy as hell atm, no use for a gaming system)

RAM:
Timings: All by SPD settings
Frequency: 200MHz

Motherboard:
Audio: Auto/Disable
Chipset functions:
Power mode: S1, or S3 if you want STR...
All IRQ, and DMA settings should be left well alone.

Rapier7

Looks like a RAM problem to me.

Memtest86 ftw.

Cold_NiTe

Yeah you should definitely run a memory test. When it locks up like that, that tends to have to do with the memory.

Leaderz0rz

<a href='http://www.memtest86.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.memtest86.com/</a> download that, burn it, run it and check for errors

Cold_NiTe

You should post your results here Black Viper. With it we might be able to offer more assistance.

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Ratonetwothreetwoone

cold nite loses

Black_Viper

Okay, so i booted with one RAM stick, and it worked fine, but my Wireless adapter wanst loaded for some reason, so i restarted, as soon as i did things started to freeze again. I inserted the other stick, and now thats what im using, im afraid to restart, but i have to in which to use Memtest...

Black_Viper

Okay so heres some weird sh!t for ya, i can get 2 boots into windows with one Stick of RAM then on the 3 boot it scews up, and doesnt load. And on the other stick of RAM i get 3 boots.

I tested the RAM and there okay. No problems. So whats the leave me, my processer and heat management? Because it sure isnt power, ive got a 500w power supply and only 1 hhd, 1 cd-rom, and a few other things needed to run ghay arse windows.


Edit, before i freeze again:


<a href='http://www.savefile.com/files/6554585' target='_blank'>http://www.savefile.com/files/6554585</a>

Mullet

Have you tried using different ram, not the Corsair ram? See if you can bum a stick of ram from a friend or family member and try that, your ram might not be compatible with the motherboard. I've had it happen to me.

Black_Viper

Thats what im thinking, but the only problem is im out in the middle of nowhere, and the only place i can get RAM is from da intranet...


Once i get my computer started, it seems fine, but if i try to restart it scews up for some odd reason.

Rapier7

I don't think it's going to be overheating problems with the CPU. Either it'll work, and crash during heavy loads, or it'll fry within three seconds if the heatsink isn't properly placed.

Yeah, if the sticks of RAM check out on memtest86, it might be a compatibility problem with your motherboard. Many motherboards are very fickle when it comes to RAM. The DFI Ultra-D is a great example, it only accepts the higher end stuff, no value RAM.

Talesin

if you use the Search function, I've covered this problem in the past, as I was having it when I first bought my Ath64. The solution is simple.


<b>REMOVE YOUR SOUNDBLASTER LIVE!</b>


Creative did not design them to comply with the full PCI spec, so they will have problems with a certain race condition, which is brought on by Ath64s, due to their using ACPI. I'm not sure as to the specifics, but removing my SBLive! fixed all crashes, lockups, freezes, and reboots.

Black_Viper

Well the Sound Card wasnt in and i still got the problem. Im sending away for new RAM, in the mean time id like to talk about my gfx card.


I got a XFX GeForce 6800 AGP and all i get when i load up my computers a black screen. XFX doesnt have a Tech Support phone number, and i havent got a e-mail back from them yet.

Cyndane

Cheap Geforce cards ftl black viper.

Talesin

GeForce cards in general ftl.

Black_Viper

Talesin;Cyndane FTL because it was defective and XFX were a-holes tigerdirect is giveing me a coupon for 10% of any Nvidia product, meaning ive got myself a new 6800 Ultra coming my way!!!


Okay so that was a lie, cant help myself... Anywho, i am geting a new card from Tigerdirect, same thing, but at least this one should work.

Lt_Patch

Almost posted without reading the rest of the post.

Never known XFX to be **** when it comes to faulties. Have dealt with them directly, and never had a single problem with them (the engineers deal with all the faulties at work...)

Either way, the only incompatibilites I could find were pertaining to 133-chipsets, with AMD Athlon XPs, not A64's. As far as tha Interweb goes, it will be ok using the SBL! 24-bit card with your system...

Rapier7

If you had an Athlon XP, chances are you had an NF2 chipset with it. And Soundstorm was definitely good enough to stave off Creative cards.