Using Game Engines For Movies

KoulnisKoulnis Join Date: 2005-04-13 Member: 48337Members
So as I went through one of the last cutscenes for Doom3, I was thinking of a new and interesting way to make and download movies, however it would defeat some purposes of having a dvd/theatre/vhs system.

A person wouldn't have control throughout the entire mod for a game, whether it be Quake3, Halflife 2 or Doom3, but whomever put the mod together is using the in-game engine to deliver a story real-time whether it be 30 minutes long or 2 full hours. This does provide a few advantages:

Depending on the game, if you're using in-game textures, how much and how high quality the voice acting is/ sfx, you're getting about the same amount if not less of MB than a divx file.

This also allows the creator to use their imagination without having to use a big budget.

However, people would need to have an up-to-date computer and whatever game it is to watch the "movie." If needs be, I suppose you could export it to AVI. However, I thought it would be an interesting idea. Navigate the menu by walking around in a room to select special features, subtitle options, etc.

I don't want to revolutionize the world with this, it's just a random thought. Treat it as such.

Comments

  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    Already been done, a good number of times.
    Some good examples are <a href='http://www.redvsblue.com' target='_blank'>Red Vs Blue</a>
    and the finalists in the movie catagory of Epics <a href='http://www.unrealtournament.com/ut2003/ct_finals/ct_movie.php' target='_blank'>Make something Unreal</a> contest.
  • KoulnisKoulnis Join Date: 2005-04-13 Member: 48337Members
    I've watched Red Vs. Blue, and that is a hilarious series. However, they exported it to a video format and later to dvd.

    What I am talking about is downloading it as a mod and you hit "start game" and it plays back that way.


    ...checking into the Make Something Unreal part though.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Yeah, and RvB is impossible to "get into" now as they took the old episodes off the web.
  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    Thanks, I now have a third year project to work on. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Jun 22 2005, 03:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jun 22 2005, 03:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, and RvB is impossible to "get into" now as they took the old episodes off the web. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No they didn't. Wait for the <a href='http://rvb.roosterteeth.com/archive/archive.php' target='_blank'>rolling archive</a> to get to the first episode and start from there.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Wow, you're about 9 years too late. What you speak of is Machinima.

    Basically, your idea is a bad one. Back around the Quake scene there used to be machinima like you describe, distributed as small mods that you'd download and run, but there is one massive flaw with this. Anyone who doesn't have the game can't run it. Simple as that.

    So by distributing in a popular video format (avi, wmv, mov, etc) you have a much wider audience than if you distributed in mod format. However, this doesn't stop you doing both.
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Jun 22 2005, 08:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jun 22 2005, 08:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow, you're about 9 years too late. What you speak of is Machinima.

    Basically, your idea is a bad one. Back around the Quake scene there used to be machinima like you describe, distributed as small mods that you'd download and run, but there is one massive flaw with this. Anyone who doesn't have the game can't run it. Simple as that.

    So by distributing in a popular video format (avi, wmv, mov, etc) you have a much wider audience than if you distributed in mod format. However, this doesn't stop you doing both. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFT
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Jun 22 2005, 06:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Jun 22 2005, 06:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Jun 22 2005, 03:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jun 22 2005, 03:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, and RvB is impossible to "get into" now as they took the old episodes off the web. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No they didn't. Wait for the <a href='http://rvb.roosterteeth.com/archive/archive.php' target='_blank'>rolling archive</a> to get to the first episode and start from there. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ooh, I stopped watching mid-season 2, so this is handy. How often does the archive page get a different set of episodes up?
  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    You guys might also wanna try search the internet archives (www.archive.org). It has most if not all the RvB.
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-RVB FAQ+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RVB FAQ)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A: Or you could just visit our online archive under RvB Videos. When a Season is running, the archive shows a rolling window of videos every week. This archive rolls every Tuesday night to the next 3-5 episodes. When it hits the end it starts over again.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    The Unreal engine 2.5 (UT2004 and UT2003) support this quite well, through the map editor no less. MSUC entries should definitely be looked at, but if you want to do it yourself, there are few easier places than in unreal.

    Heck, even i've done it....
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    It can be done in the original Half-life as well, but through a series of mini-hacks.

    The beggining of the Todengast (or something similiar) mod had a mini sort of movie to it in the beggining. Was pretty cool for its time.
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    "Hacks" like "Giving the camera a fixed position" and "Triggering a scripted sequence"?
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Wow, I stopped RvB during the second season, and now I see that they've redone the website. I thought they said they'll never redo the website <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • urinalcakeurinalcake Can&#39;t work a sound card United States Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7799Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Jun 22 2005, 05:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jun 22 2005, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, and RvB is impossible to "get into" now as they took the old episodes off the web. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can send you any old episodes you want.
    I have everything RvB has came out with, as I've watched them loong before they were CockBite productions. Infact, I watched their Mac stuff before RvB was even out.

    I have the old teaser (episode 0) and the rare announcement trailer all the way up to where I've left off, like episode 40 something.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    You know, I just stopped watching RvB some time back. I think it's when they stopped doing a new episode every Sunday, I just got sick of waiting.
  • KoulnisKoulnis Join Date: 2005-04-13 Member: 48337Members
    Well, if you have any of those mods that you're talking about, I have q3a, doom3, hl, q2 and a few others. I was around for Quake and q2, but unfortunately I didn't get internet until late highschool. And I graduated in 2002.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-urinalcake+Jun 22 2005, 12:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (urinalcake @ Jun 22 2005, 12:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Jun 22 2005, 05:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jun 22 2005, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, and RvB is impossible to "get into" now as they took the old episodes off the web. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can send you any old episodes you want.
    I have everything RvB has came out with, as I've watched them loong before they were CockBite productions. Infact, I watched their Mac stuff before RvB was even out.

    I have the old teaser (episode 0) and the rare announcement trailer all the way up to where I've left off, like episode 40 something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you some kind of Savior?
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-urinalcake+Jun 22 2005, 11:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (urinalcake @ Jun 22 2005, 11:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Jun 22 2005, 05:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jun 22 2005, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, and RvB is impossible to "get into" now as they took the old episodes off the web. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can send you any old episodes you want.
    I have everything RvB has came out with, as I've watched them loong before they were CockBite productions. Infact, I watched their Mac stuff before RvB was even out.

    I have the old teaser (episode 0) and the rare announcement trailer all the way up to where I've left off, like episode 40 something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You know.. you should upload those to my FTP so everyone can enjoy their goodness and you guys can leech off of me... I'm assuming that is legal yes?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    actualy, if you poke around on fileplanet they might still have all of the old eps..


    not positive (and can't check from work as our connection is slow as molassas trying to run up hill, aka ISDN <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    It doesn't even classify as ISDN Thansal darling. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Its like glorified 33.6.
  • KoulnisKoulnis Join Date: 2005-04-13 Member: 48337Members
    Back to topic (sort of), when ns goes source, is there anyone out there who would write such movies in a mod for us to watch in the ns universe? If so, what would you do?

    Or moreso, is anyone working on those types of mods at the moment?
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Back when the HL mod community was in full swing there were some groups that specialized in this.
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