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I thought that the plot was pretty good, considering that it is an alien invasion movie. It beats the **** out of mars attacks and independence day, which was good enough for me. I wasn't expecting Shakespear, but i was still impressed by how good the plot was. I really enjoyed the family element of the film, which made the movie seem a whole lot more <i>real</i>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->rather than sticking with the story.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The story was about a family trying to survive the alien invasion. I thought that they stuck to that pretty well.
I thought that it was pretty nice. Much better than them finally arriving to discover a crater where the house had once been. Sure, the son could have stayed dead, but i'm not really bothered. If it managed to ruin the film (which it didn't), then it ruined the last 15 odd seconds of the film. Nothing more.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So many people need to be kicked in the temple right now with a steel-toed boot.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A tad harsh, considering that it is just a fun film. Some people are taking this way too seriously <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
To be honest.... I liked the old films better. They had the CYLINDERS!
*gets shot*
The only fun thing about this movie was people becoming puffs of ash <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Jul 4 2005, 10:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Jul 4 2005, 10:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To be honest.... I liked the old films better. They had the CYLINDERS!
I felt rather than this movie telling a story with an accurate plot, it decided to tell a case study of just the one family's experience.
In general, I thought it was quite good but so much of it wasn't explained!
I'm going to have to read the book now to make some sense of the actual events.
On a side note <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So many people need to be kicked in the temple right now with a steel-toed boot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I really don't like your tone, you want too seem to hurt people because they enjoyed a movie....well done.
<!--QuoteBegin-Fog cartoons+Jul 9 2005, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fog cartoons @ Jul 9 2005, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it decided to tell a case study of just the one family's experience. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Which was the aim of the movie. If that's the reason people didnt like it then they'd hate the book, which for most of the story is the tale of only one person.
One thing that bugs me is people bringing in Mars Attacks as a comparison to this movie. Mars Attacks went in an utterly different direction in every way to War of the Worlds, so why even include it in the discussion?
<!--QuoteBegin-BloodySloth+Jul 9 2005, 12:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BloodySloth @ Jul 9 2005, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Fog cartoons+Jul 9 2005, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fog cartoons @ Jul 9 2005, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it decided to tell a case study of just the one family's experience. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Which was the aim of the movie. If that's the reason people didnt like it then they'd hate the book, which for most of the story is the tale of only one person. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I liked the idea of viewing the attack threw one family's experiences. Is there really any alternative to presenting a story like this with that much realism?
The plot for Independece Day was bad? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Omega some people like to think that a good movie was bad because it had will smith in it.
He doesn't make or break the movie... after all it has Jeff Goldbloom who was quite good and the Spaceballs guy, who made an excellent president.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+Jul 9 2005, 03:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ Jul 9 2005, 03:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I liked the idea of viewing the attack threw one family's experiences. Is there really any alternative to presenting a story like this with that much realism? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That can work, yes: but the way this movie was presented, it wasn't so much following one family in a group of families, but having only this one family surviving. It felt almost like the family was disconnected from the rest of the events in the film; almost as if they were untouchable.
The movie got so focused on the interpersonal conflicts in the family that it forgot that an alien invasion was going on in the background. Multiple shots of a teary-eyed Cruise aren't really necessary. The film could have gone the other direction and ignored the family's feelings entirely, which would also be a bad decision. However, this film too closely followed the family problems, placing too much importance on things unrelated to the survival of the alien invasion. Mending a family isn't entirely important when aliens are killing everyone around the Cruise clan.
So yes, there is an alternative to presenting this story: it is to stop focusing so heavily on the minutia, and worry about a few people <b>connected</b> to the family. Only twice are we given any indication that Cruise has lost anyone anywhere close to him, and they are treated so carelessly that they're rather forgettable. The director needed to pull back a bit and give a little more scope to the destruction: the movie feels too much like a family in front of a green screen, with computer generated neighbors, rather than those of the flesh and blood variety.
Oh wow. Good point. I forgot about that lady that Cruise meets in right outside the big Ferry boat.
I think you are right because one of the parts I liked especially was when he was hiding out underground with the crazy guy. Introducing a new character with a new perspective... That was really helpful.
The plot for Independece Day was bad? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Omega some people like to think that a good movie was bad because it had will smith in it.
He doesn't make or break the movie... after all it has Jeff Goldbloom who was quite good and the Spaceballs guy, who made an excellent president. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You also think Batman Forever is a good movie.
AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
edited July 2005
I went and saw that movie today for the first time, neither I nor anyone else in the theater that I could tell enjoyed it, we were all yelling at the screen. I really really hate this movie for being made. This movie is a jerk. I saw Fantastic Four earlier today, before I saw WotW, and compared to War, F4 was GOOD. I mean, some movies are bad, but WotW was an assault on common decency in its awfullness.
Ok for things that just glaringly don't make sense or are wrong we have: camcorders that work with magic (and shouldn't all of that reporter's gear have not worked too?!?! I just thought of that now!! GODAMNIT MOVIE!!!!!!!!), the spongebob clip is not synched with the audio at all for some reason (I know that's nitpicky, but honestly, it would not have taken any effort at all to get right, and it seriously peeved me off), buried spacecraft that we somehow didn't notice over several eons, a minivan whos windows magically appear or dissapear AND which drives while clearly in park, a clearly inept military which can't notice birds landing on walker before Tom Cruise can, axes which go through alien metal with relatively little force, aliens that seem perplexed by the concept of THE WHEEL, alien eyes which have very selective hearing and no optical ability beyond the visible spectrum (not even any night vision, it needed lights!! WHAT THE HELL?!?!), not to mention that the alien eye was extremely confused by a FREAKING MIRROR, the walkers vaporized people even though they needed people's blood for fertilization, one block in boston that has no traces of destruction at all (the windows were all still there and everything), and a magical kid who can survive MASSIVE EFFING EXPLOSIONS that can take out whole hillsides!!!!!
As for things that were just ridiculous, we have: alien sphincters, a movie that rips off a really bad (but not worse than this movie) version of itself for the alien design, raining pants (honestly, how can anyone take a movie where it rains pants seriously), the walkers randomly spewing orange kool-aid for no discernable reason, Dakota Fanning's never ending screaming (did the movie want us to hate the main characters or something?) and the most ridiculous thing of all: Tom Cruise's entire existence.
Seriously. Screw this movie. To hell.
Oh man I needed to make that post, it was cleansing. I need to get that movie out of my mind before it does some serious damage. DAMNIT TOM CRUISE!!!!!!
Saw WotW for the third time yesterday <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It wasn't as good as the first two times but I still can't get over the absolute kickarsical nature of the flaming train scene. Genius.
To me, this movie just felt like one long special effects demo reel.
The effects were good, i'll give it that, but it lacked in every other department. Story was next to non-existant, the characters were all irritating and unlikable, and it just dragged on and on and on, i was practically asleep by the end.
There are two things that were kinda cool though, firstly, the train on fire, that was just quite funny, that and the river of corpses, but then the girl decided to open her mouth and ruin my eardrums once again.
But really, this is just a massive case of style over content.
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+Jul 10 2005, 12:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ Jul 10 2005, 12:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> axes which go through alien metal with relatively little force, aliens that seem perplexed by the concept of THE WHEEL, alien eyes which have very selective hearing and no optical ability beyond the visible spectrum (not even any night vision, it needed lights!! WHAT THE HELL?!?!) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 1: Why must metal be completely indestructable just because it's made by aliens? The thing generally was in the protection of its force field, and was never used in combat situations. Why waste the resources on making it out of impenetrable material?
2: In the novel, it explains how the martians never actually came up with the wheel, and that all their machines operate by sliding parts. No rotating gears and no wheels. Thus the legged warmachines, and not big tanks or something. I know it doesnt ever explain this in the movie, but at least there's kind of a reason.
3: So.. because they're aliens they OBVIOUSLY just have magical powers, and every movie that doesnt feature this is LOL***? Sure. Fact of the matter is, the basement was creaking and groaning just by itself, and so a few splashes or mishaps on the humans' part wouldn't have aroused any suspicion.
I'd filter through the rest of your... interesting post, but meh.
AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
<!--QuoteBegin-BloodySloth+Jul 10 2005, 10:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BloodySloth @ Jul 10 2005, 10:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+Jul 10 2005, 12:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ Jul 10 2005, 12:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> axes which go through alien metal with relatively little force, aliens that seem perplexed by the concept of THE WHEEL, alien eyes which have very selective hearing and no optical ability beyond the visible spectrum (not even any night vision, it needed lights!! WHAT THE HELL?!?!) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 1: Why must metal be completely indestructable just because it's made by aliens? The thing generally was in the protection of its force field, and was never used in combat situations. Why waste the resources on making it out of impenetrable material? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok, so we have a WAR MACHINE, made to fight things. Obviously we're going to want to make this war machine as tough as possible. The force field covers up the main body of the machine, but certain parts such as the eye and other tendrilly things are never going to be used inside the force field anyways, so wouldn't you make them strong enough to withstand a good beating? At least more than ONE GUY WITH A FREAKING HATCHET!!! It takes more time/effort that that to take down a small sapling with a hatchet, nevermind a thick hunk of metal and wire. Try cutting through metal with a hatchet sometime, it's not really easy.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2: In the novel, it explains how the martians never actually came up with the wheel, and that all their machines operate by sliding parts. No rotating gears and no wheels. Thus the legged warmachines, and not big tanks or something. I know it doesnt ever explain this in the movie, but at least there's kind of a reason.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I didn't know that, havn't read the book in about a zillion years so I've forgotten many details. I guess I'll give the movie that.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->3: So.. because they're aliens they OBVIOUSLY just have magical powers, and every movie that doesnt feature this is LOL***? Sure. Fact of the matter is, the basement was creaking and groaning just by itself, and so a few splashes or mishaps on the humans' part wouldn't have aroused any suspicion.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL***? What? Anyways the point of that post was that aside from the noise of the humans and a small rat, there was no other noises. Basements don't creak constantly, and the alien eye itself wasn't making any noise to drown out the human's noises. Put yourself in a perfectly dark and silent basment, now make two people fight over a shotgun or mess with a mirror or fight over a hatchet about 2 feet away from you, don't you think you'd be able to tell? But the noises part is not my biggest problem with that scene. The fact that the eye didn't just see them outright using light that may be beyond the visible spectrum was the part that made me angriest. So what, the aliens have perfected interplanetary travel but don't have enough of a grasp of physics to realise that there is a very broad spectrum of light that's good for searching for things? How much does this movie expect us to believe?
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+Jul 10 2005, 04:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ Jul 10 2005, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BloodySloth+Jul 10 2005, 10:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BloodySloth @ Jul 10 2005, 10:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+Jul 10 2005, 12:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ Jul 10 2005, 12:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> axes which go through alien metal with relatively little force, aliens that seem perplexed by the concept of THE WHEEL, alien eyes which have very selective hearing and no optical ability beyond the visible spectrum (not even any night vision, it needed lights!! WHAT THE HELL?!?!) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 1: Why must metal be completely indestructable just because it's made by aliens? The thing generally was in the protection of its force field, and was never used in combat situations. Why waste the resources on making it out of impenetrable material? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok, so we have a WAR MACHINE, made to fight things. Obviously we're going to want to make this war machine as tough as possible. The force field covers up the main body of the machine, but certain parts such as the eye and other tendrilly things are never going to be used inside the force field anyways, so wouldn't you make them strong enough to withstand a good beating? At least more than ONE GUY WITH A FREAKING HATCHET!!! It takes more time/effort that that to take down a small sapling with a hatchet, nevermind a thick hunk of metal and wire. Try cutting through metal with a hatchet sometime, it's not really easy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Duh! Nanites.
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I thought that the plot was pretty good, considering that it is an alien invasion movie. It beats the **** out of mars attacks and independence day, which was good enough for me. I wasn't expecting Shakespear, but i was still impressed by how good the plot was. I really enjoyed the family element of the film, which made the movie seem a whole lot more <i>real</i>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->rather than sticking with the story.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The story was about a family trying to survive the alien invasion. I thought that they stuck to that pretty well.
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I thought that it was pretty nice. Much better than them finally arriving to discover a crater where the house had once been. Sure, the son could have stayed dead, but i'm not really bothered. If it managed to ruin the film (which it didn't), then it ruined the last 15 odd seconds of the film. Nothing more.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So many people need to be kicked in the temple right now with a steel-toed boot.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A tad harsh, considering that it is just a fun film. Some people are taking this way too seriously <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I liked the old films better. They had the CYLINDERS!
*gets shot*
The only fun thing about this movie was people becoming puffs of ash <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I liked the old films better. They had the CYLINDERS!
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Musical FTW.
spoiler sortve,
Urban signs meets Independance day aliens and you got a tom cruise movie apparntly....
I liked the old films better. They had the CYLINDERS!
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Musical FTW. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seconded.
I liked the old films better. They had the CYLINDERS!
*gets shot* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Musical FTW. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seconded. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/002-1510016-1885645' target='_blank'>buy now. buy now!</a>
In general, I thought it was quite good but so much of it wasn't explained!
I'm going to have to read the book now to make some sense of the actual events.
On a side note
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So many people need to be kicked in the temple right now with a steel-toed boot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I really don't like your tone, you want too seem to hurt people because they enjoyed a movie....well done.
Which was the aim of the movie. If that's the reason people didnt like it then they'd hate the book, which for most of the story is the tale of only one person.
One thing that bugs me is people bringing in Mars Attacks as a comparison to this movie. Mars Attacks went in an utterly different direction in every way to War of the Worlds, so why even include it in the discussion?
Which was the aim of the movie. If that's the reason people didnt like it then they'd hate the book, which for most of the story is the tale of only one person. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I liked the idea of viewing the attack threw one family's experiences. Is there really any alternative to presenting a story like this with that much realism?
The plot for Independece Day was bad?
The plot for Independece Day was bad? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Omega some people like to think that a good movie was bad because it had will smith in it.
He doesn't make or break the movie... after all it has Jeff Goldbloom who was quite good and the Spaceballs guy, who made an excellent president.
That can work, yes: but the way this movie was presented, it wasn't so much following one family in a group of families, but having only this one family surviving. It felt almost like the family was disconnected from the rest of the events in the film; almost as if they were untouchable.
The movie got so focused on the interpersonal conflicts in the family that it forgot that an alien invasion was going on in the background. Multiple shots of a teary-eyed Cruise aren't really necessary. The film could have gone the other direction and ignored the family's feelings entirely, which would also be a bad decision. However, this film too closely followed the family problems, placing too much importance on things unrelated to the survival of the alien invasion. Mending a family isn't entirely important when aliens are killing everyone around the Cruise clan.
So yes, there is an alternative to presenting this story: it is to stop focusing so heavily on the minutia, and worry about a few people <b>connected</b> to the family. Only twice are we given any indication that Cruise has lost anyone anywhere close to him, and they are treated so carelessly that they're rather forgettable. The director needed to pull back a bit and give a little more scope to the destruction: the movie feels too much like a family in front of a green screen, with computer generated neighbors, rather than those of the flesh and blood variety.
I think you are right because one of the parts I liked especially was when he was hiding out underground with the crazy guy. Introducing a new character with a new perspective... That was really helpful.
The plot for Independece Day was bad? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Omega some people like to think that a good movie was bad because it had will smith in it.
He doesn't make or break the movie... after all it has Jeff Goldbloom who was quite good and the Spaceballs guy, who made an excellent president. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You also think Batman Forever is a good movie.
Ok for things that just glaringly don't make sense or are wrong we have: camcorders that work with magic (and shouldn't all of that reporter's gear have not worked too?!?! I just thought of that now!! GODAMNIT MOVIE!!!!!!!!), the spongebob clip is not synched with the audio at all for some reason (I know that's nitpicky, but honestly, it would not have taken any effort at all to get right, and it seriously peeved me off), buried spacecraft that we somehow didn't notice over several eons, a minivan whos windows magically appear or dissapear AND which drives while clearly in park, a clearly inept military which can't notice birds landing on walker before Tom Cruise can, axes which go through alien metal with relatively little force, aliens that seem perplexed by the concept of THE WHEEL, alien eyes which have very selective hearing and no optical ability beyond the visible spectrum (not even any night vision, it needed lights!! WHAT THE HELL?!?!), not to mention that the alien eye was extremely confused by a FREAKING MIRROR, the walkers vaporized people even though they needed people's blood for fertilization, one block in boston that has no traces of destruction at all (the windows were all still there and everything), and a magical kid who can survive MASSIVE EFFING EXPLOSIONS that can take out whole hillsides!!!!!
As for things that were just ridiculous, we have: alien sphincters, a movie that rips off a really bad (but not worse than this movie) version of itself for the alien design, raining pants (honestly, how can anyone take a movie where it rains pants seriously), the walkers randomly spewing orange kool-aid for no discernable reason, Dakota Fanning's never ending screaming (did the movie want us to hate the main characters or something?) and the most ridiculous thing of all: Tom Cruise's entire existence.
Seriously. Screw this movie. To hell.
Oh man I needed to make that post, it was cleansing. I need to get that movie out of my mind before it does some serious damage. DAMNIT TOM CRUISE!!!!!!
It wasn't as good as the first two times but I still can't get over the absolute kickarsical nature of the flaming train scene. Genius.
soo many things wrong with the movie.
The effects were good, i'll give it that, but it lacked in every other department. Story was next to non-existant, the characters were all irritating and unlikable, and it just dragged on and on and on, i was practically asleep by the end.
There are two things that were kinda cool though, firstly, the train on fire, that was just quite funny, that and the river of corpses, but then the girl decided to open her mouth and ruin my eardrums once again.
But really, this is just a massive case of style over content.
1: Why must metal be completely indestructable just because it's made by aliens? The thing generally was in the protection of its force field, and was never used in combat situations. Why waste the resources on making it out of impenetrable material?
2: In the novel, it explains how the martians never actually came up with the wheel, and that all their machines operate by sliding parts. No rotating gears and no wheels. Thus the legged warmachines, and not big tanks or something. I know it doesnt ever explain this in the movie, but at least there's kind of a reason.
3: So.. because they're aliens they OBVIOUSLY just have magical powers, and every movie that doesnt feature this is LOL***? Sure. Fact of the matter is, the basement was creaking and groaning just by itself, and so a few splashes or mishaps on the humans' part wouldn't have aroused any suspicion.
I'd filter through the rest of your... interesting post, but meh.
1: Why must metal be completely indestructable just because it's made by aliens? The thing generally was in the protection of its force field, and was never used in combat situations. Why waste the resources on making it out of impenetrable material? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok, so we have a WAR MACHINE, made to fight things. Obviously we're going to want to make this war machine as tough as possible. The force field covers up the main body of the machine, but certain parts such as the eye and other tendrilly things are never going to be used inside the force field anyways, so wouldn't you make them strong enough to withstand a good beating? At least more than ONE GUY WITH A FREAKING HATCHET!!! It takes more time/effort that that to take down a small sapling with a hatchet, nevermind a thick hunk of metal and wire. Try cutting through metal with a hatchet sometime, it's not really easy.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2: In the novel, it explains how the martians never actually came up with the wheel, and that all their machines operate by sliding parts. No rotating gears and no wheels. Thus the legged warmachines, and not big tanks or something. I know it doesnt ever explain this in the movie, but at least there's kind of a reason.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't know that, havn't read the book in about a zillion years so I've forgotten many details. I guess I'll give the movie that.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->3: So.. because they're aliens they OBVIOUSLY just have magical powers, and every movie that doesnt feature this is LOL***? Sure. Fact of the matter is, the basement was creaking and groaning just by itself, and so a few splashes or mishaps on the humans' part wouldn't have aroused any suspicion.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL***? What? Anyways the point of that post was that aside from the noise of the humans and a small rat, there was no other noises. Basements don't creak constantly, and the alien eye itself wasn't making any noise to drown out the human's noises. Put yourself in a perfectly dark and silent basment, now make two people fight over a shotgun or mess with a mirror or fight over a hatchet about 2 feet away from you, don't you think you'd be able to tell? But the noises part is not my biggest problem with that scene. The fact that the eye didn't just see them outright using light that may be beyond the visible spectrum was the part that made me angriest. So what, the aliens have perfected interplanetary travel but don't have enough of a grasp of physics to realise that there is a very broad spectrum of light that's good for searching for things? How much does this movie expect us to believe?
1: Why must metal be completely indestructable just because it's made by aliens? The thing generally was in the protection of its force field, and was never used in combat situations. Why waste the resources on making it out of impenetrable material? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok, so we have a WAR MACHINE, made to fight things. Obviously we're going to want to make this war machine as tough as possible. The force field covers up the main body of the machine, but certain parts such as the eye and other tendrilly things are never going to be used inside the force field anyways, so wouldn't you make them strong enough to withstand a good beating? At least more than ONE GUY WITH A FREAKING HATCHET!!! It takes more time/effort that that to take down a small sapling with a hatchet, nevermind a thick hunk of metal and wire. Try cutting through metal with a hatchet sometime, it's not really easy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Duh! Nanites.