I hope the Washington Post keeps the tradition of naming their sources after porn movies, because I'm gonna laugh my **** off when I open a text book to read the title "How Barely Legal Teens 34 Exposed White House Corruption" as a chapter.
On a more serious note, nothing will come of this. Ever. Presidents have learned from Nixon's "mistakes". :/
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jul 11 2005, 04:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 11 2005, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hope the Washington Post keeps the tradition of naming their sources after porn movies, because I'm gonna laugh my **** off when I open a text book to read the title "How Barely Legal Teens 34 Exposed White House Corruption" as a chapter.
On a more serious note, nothing will come of this. Ever. Presidents have learned from Nixon's "mistakes". :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I unfortunately have to laugh and agree with the almighty DOOMnub.
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Personally, I think the democrats are springing on this too early. They should wait to arouse the public outrage until its conclusive, and demand that the president fire Rove in accordance with his promise to fire everyone responsible for the leak. He won't, and then you have public and damning proof that the president places no value on integrity whatsoever.
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Here are some quotes from the timeline. ***king liars. <a href='http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050711/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_quotes_1' target='_blank'>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...a_leak_quotes_1</a>
Q: You said this morning, quote, "The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved." How does he know that?
A: Well, I've made it very clear that it was a ridiculous suggestion in the first place. ... I've said that it's not true. ... And I have spoken with Karl Rove.
Q: It doesn't take much for the president to ask a senior official working for him, to just lay the question out for a few people and end this controversy today.
A: Do you have specific information to bring to our attention? ... Are we supposed to chase down every anonymous report in the newspaper? We'd spend all our time doing that."
Q: When you talked to Mr. Rove, did you discuss, "Did you ever have this information?"
A: I've made it very clear, he was not involved, that there's no truth to the suggestion that he was.
___
Oct. 7, 2003
Q: You have said that you personally went to Scooter Libby (Vice President **** Cheney's chief of staff), Karl Rove and Elliott Abrams (National Security Council official) to ask them if they were the leakers. Is that what happened? Why did you do that? And can you describe the conversations you had with them? What was the question you asked?
A: Unfortunately, in Washington, D.C., at a time like this there are a lot of rumors and innuendo. There are unsubstantiated accusations that are made. And that's exactly what happened in the case of these three individuals. They are good individuals. They are important members of our White House team. And that's why I spoke with them, so that I could come back to you and say that they were not involved. I had no doubt with that in the beginning, but I like to check my information to make sure it's accurate before I report back to you, and that's exactly what I did.
___
Oct. 10, 2003
Q: Earlier this week you told us that neither Karl Rove, Elliot Abrams nor Lewis Libby disclosed any classified information with regard to the leak. I wondered if you could tell us more specifically whether any of them told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA?
A: I spoke with those individuals, as I pointed out, and those individuals assured me they were not involved in this. And that's where it stands.
Q: So none of them told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA?
A: They assured me that they were not involved in this.
Q: They were not involved in what?
A: The leaking of classified information.
___
July 11, 2005:
Q: Do you want to retract your statement that Rove, Karl Rove, was not involved in the Valerie Plame expose?
A: I appreciate the question. This is an ongoing investigation at this point. The president directed the White House to cooperate fully with the investigation, and as part of cooperating fully with the investigation, that means we're not going to be commenting on it while it is ongoing.
Q: But Rove has apparently commented, through his lawyer, that he was definitely involved.
A: You're asking me to comment on an ongoing investigation.
Q: I'm saying, why did you stand there and say he was not involved?
A: Again, while there is an ongoing investigation, I'm not going to be commenting on it nor is ... .
Q: Any remorse?
A: Nor is the White House, because the president wanted us to cooperate fully with the investigation, and that's what we're doing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You know, the guy is really just a bad press secretary. This isn't the first time he came out with a nervous, stuttering, unprepared, broken-voice-recorder sound.
Yes the natural disaster that comes by every so often and the name of which is picked by scientists is completely because of the Shiavo husband. How can anyone in their right mind think these people are fit to govern?
Yes the natural disaster that comes by every so often and the name of which is picked by scientists is completely because of the Shiavo husband. How can anyone in their right mind think these people are fit to govern? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dude, it's satire. Like The Onion.
Yes the natural disaster that comes by every so often and the name of which is picked by scientists is completely because of the Shiavo husband. How can anyone in their right mind think these people are fit to govern? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dude, it's satire. Like The Onion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah I started looking over the sight more after I posted. But it's kinda sad that I really believed it. If this were put out on a credible source it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Yes the natural disaster that comes by every so often and the name of which is picked by scientists is completely because of the Shiavo husband. How can anyone in their right mind think these people are fit to govern? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dude, it's satire. Like The Onion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah I started looking over the sight more after I posted. But it's kinda sad that I really believed it. If this were put out on a credible source it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You'd think that things like that would be instantly funny and obviously satire. But as I've come to learn, there really are people that dumb in the world and many of them make statements which are like that. Today, no matter how obviously stupid anything can be believed as someones actual serious opinion.
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On a more serious note, nothing will come of this. Ever. Presidents have learned from Nixon's "mistakes". :/
On a more serious note, nothing will come of this. Ever. Presidents have learned from Nixon's "mistakes". :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I unfortunately have to laugh and agree with the almighty DOOMnub.
He exposed an American spy... during wartime. How low can you go, slimeball?
And Duff: this is America, duh.
The name is strangely appropriate.
The press secretary just gets ***king grilled.
<a href='http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Scotty_Rove.wmv' target='_blank'>http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Scotty_Rove.wmv</a>
<a href='http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050711/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_quotes_1' target='_blank'>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...a_leak_quotes_1</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sept. 29, 2003
Q: You said this morning, quote, "The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved." How does he know that?
A: Well, I've made it very clear that it was a ridiculous suggestion in the first place. ... I've said that it's not true. ... And I have spoken with Karl Rove.
Q: It doesn't take much for the president to ask a senior official working for him, to just lay the question out for a few people and end this controversy today.
A: Do you have specific information to bring to our attention? ... Are we supposed to chase down every anonymous report in the newspaper? We'd spend all our time doing that."
Q: When you talked to Mr. Rove, did you discuss, "Did you ever have this information?"
A: I've made it very clear, he was not involved, that there's no truth to the suggestion that he was.
___
Oct. 7, 2003
Q: You have said that you personally went to Scooter Libby (Vice President
**** Cheney's chief of staff), Karl Rove and Elliott Abrams (National Security Council official) to ask them if they were the leakers. Is that what happened? Why did you do that? And can you describe the conversations you had with them? What was the question you asked?
A: Unfortunately, in Washington, D.C., at a time like this there are a lot of rumors and innuendo. There are unsubstantiated accusations that are made. And that's exactly what happened in the case of these three individuals. They are good individuals. They are important members of our White House team. And that's why I spoke with them, so that I could come back to you and say that they were not involved. I had no doubt with that in the beginning, but I like to check my information to make sure it's accurate before I report back to you, and that's exactly what I did.
___
Oct. 10, 2003
Q: Earlier this week you told us that neither Karl Rove, Elliot Abrams nor Lewis Libby disclosed any classified information with regard to the leak. I wondered if you could tell us more specifically whether any of them told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA?
A: I spoke with those individuals, as I pointed out, and those individuals assured me they were not involved in this. And that's where it stands.
Q: So none of them told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA?
A: They assured me that they were not involved in this.
Q: They were not involved in what?
A: The leaking of classified information.
___
July 11, 2005:
Q: Do you want to retract your statement that Rove, Karl Rove, was not involved in the Valerie Plame expose?
A: I appreciate the question. This is an ongoing investigation at this point. The president directed the White House to cooperate fully with the investigation, and as part of cooperating fully with the investigation, that means we're not going to be commenting on it while it is ongoing.
Q: But Rove has apparently commented, through his lawyer, that he was definitely involved.
A: You're asking me to comment on an ongoing investigation.
Q: I'm saying, why did you stand there and say he was not involved?
A: Again, while there is an ongoing investigation, I'm not going to be commenting on it nor is ... .
Q: Any remorse?
A: Nor is the White House, because the president wanted us to cooperate fully with the investigation, and that's what we're doing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just a simple "No comment" would have done it.
<a href='http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/07/jeb_bush_hurric.html#more' target='_blank'>http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/07/...urric.html#more</a>
Yes the natural disaster that comes by every so often and the name of which is picked by scientists is completely because of the Shiavo husband. How can anyone in their right mind think these people are fit to govern?
<a href='http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/07/jeb_bush_hurric.html#more' target='_blank'>http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/07/...urric.html#more</a>
Yes the natural disaster that comes by every so often and the name of which is picked by scientists is completely because of the Shiavo husband. How can anyone in their right mind think these people are fit to govern? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dude, it's satire. Like The Onion.
<a href='http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/07/jeb_bush_hurric.html#more' target='_blank'>http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/07/...urric.html#more</a>
Yes the natural disaster that comes by every so often and the name of which is picked by scientists is completely because of the Shiavo husband. How can anyone in their right mind think these people are fit to govern? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dude, it's satire. Like The Onion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah I started looking over the sight more after I posted. But it's kinda sad that I really believed it. If this were put out on a credible source it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
<a href='http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/07/jeb_bush_hurric.html#more' target='_blank'>http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/07/...urric.html#more</a>
Yes the natural disaster that comes by every so often and the name of which is picked by scientists is completely because of the Shiavo husband. How can anyone in their right mind think these people are fit to govern? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dude, it's satire. Like The Onion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah I started looking over the sight more after I posted. But it's kinda sad that I really believed it. If this were put out on a credible source it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You'd think that things like that would be instantly funny and obviously satire. But as I've come to learn, there really are people that dumb in the world and many of them make statements which are like that. Today, no matter how obviously stupid anything can be believed as someones actual serious opinion.
Does that make you cry? I hope it does.
I hope it does.