No, seriously, chill the **** out and get a more relaxed attitude towards driving. There's nothing worse than somebody hugging your fender, particularly when you ARE driving at the speed limit. If you have to brake hard for some reason, they'll just plow into your rear end.
Heck, think of yourself: Smashing into the back of another car is that kind of accident that's REALLY hard to explain to your insurance company.
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edited July 2005
<!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Jul 14 2005, 09:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 14 2005, 09:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No, seriously, chill the **** out and get a more relaxed attitude towards driving. There's nothing worse than somebody hugging your fender, particularly when you ARE driving at the speed limit. If you have to brake hard for some reason, they'll just plow into your rear end.
Heck, think of yourself: Smashing into the back of another car is that kind of accident that's REALLY hard to explain to your insurance company. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I never said I tailgate. I usually stay about 20 feet behind the car in front of me, except at stops, in which its about 5-7 feet. If someone's in my way, I either pass them or change roads.
Edit: Oh, and lolfighter, seriously, chill the **** out and get a more relaxed attitude towards posting. There's nothing worse than someone assuming you are doing something when you're doing nothing of the such just because they do something differently than you, especially when the assuming person is being particularly smarmy about it. If you have to post that way for some reason, it'll just turn the topic into a flamewar.
Eh I gotta learn to drive soon. In manual of course, it would be silly not to as far as I can see <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 14 2005, 10:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 14 2005, 10:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.
<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 14 2005, 12:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 14 2005, 12:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i hate it when people drive under the speed limit, its so annoying having to pass them
<!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Jul 14 2005, 04:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 14 2005, 04:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jul 14 2005, 03:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jul 14 2005, 03:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You'll have a shorter life breaking the law, actually: it shaves off years from your life span (I'm serious). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> How? <b>(1)</b>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Really, I think people forget that the Speed <b>Limit</b> is not the Speed <b>Requirement</b>. A speed limit of 45MPH doesn't mean everyone should go <b>at least</b> 45MPH. It means that 45MPH is the <b>fastest</b> everyone should be going.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, but you should be going <b>near</b> that. (Within 1-3 MPH, in my opinion) A little over, a little less, no problem. But when you start slowing down/speeding up a lot, then it's pretty dumb.<b>(2)</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> 1. The stress involved in breaking the law has been shown in a medical study (I read about it in Reader's Digest) to decrease the life span of the law breaker.
2. Actually, the minimum speed on the interstate highways in Michigan are 75/55MPH, 55MPH being the minimum. So it's not 1-3MPH, it's actually 15MPH. Does that mean I go that slow? Only when I feel I have to: otherwise I go a safe speed near the speed limit. Usually, in order to not cause traffic jams, I go whatever speed the rest of the highway drivers are going, which is often <b>over</b> the speed limit. I used the highway speeds to give a wider range of speeds: realistically, the highway is the (only) place I am willing to go faster than the speed limit.
I don't know what you mean by "slowing down/speeding up a lot", though.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Jul 14 2005, 11:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Jul 14 2005, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its even been confirmed by the local police department here that its less of a limit, and more of a "Reccomendation". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, if we're going to go to anecdotal evidence, then let me give you some of my experiences. Speeders get pulled over and ticketed by police. My driving instructor told me that speed limits are "Requirements, <i>not</i> recommendations."
I want to clarify my previous post: the fastest I've ever gone on a highway is around 80MPH. I've only done that a few times. Usually I'm at 60-70MPH (70MPH being the speed limit). I don't have a problem driving slower than everyone else, although I always make sure if I need to go slower, I stick to the right lane. I don't regularly go faster than the speed limit on highways: however, if I want to pass someone and I need to go 80MPH because I'm in the "fast lane", I will do so. Just wanted to make sure I didn't sound like I was contradicting everything I said, heh.
<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sure: I wouldn't be going anywhere near the speed limit in a hurricane or snowstorm, nor would I expect to go the speed limit around a construction zone or accident site. Otherwise though, I'll go around the speed limit.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jul 14 2005, 01:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jul 14 2005, 01:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sure: I wouldn't be going anywhere near the speed limit in a hurricane or snowstorm, nor would I expect to go the speed limit around a construction zone or accident site. Otherwise though, I'll go around the speed limit. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah because noone wanna get ticket by the police now do they
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Jul 14 2005, 02:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Jul 14 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 14 2005, 10:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 14 2005, 10:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 14 2005, 02:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 14 2005, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Jul 14 2005, 02:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Jul 14 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 14 2005, 10:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 14 2005, 10:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> well theyre blocking the road for **** sake
<!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Jul 14 2005, 02:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 14 2005, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No, they'd be blocking the road if they were going far below the speed limit or standing still.
I didn't target you specifically with my post, Quaunaut, and I can't take responsibility for you taking it personally. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> anybody driving slower than the the "recommended" speed is blocking the road
The ignorance in this topic astounds me. The only thing you should be **** off at when you are driving is people that are hugging your bumper. And when that happens, you should "accidentally" brake. I agree with lolfighter's earlier post. People need to chill the **** out when driving.
Oh, guys, Tiptronic, isnt just for Porsche. I have it in a Nissan Maxima. Unless it's just a tiptronic knockoff.
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+Jul 14 2005, 03:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ Jul 14 2005, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The ignorance in this topic astounds me. The only thing you should be **** off at when you are driving is people that are hugging your bumper. And when that happens, you should "accidentally" brake. I agree with lolfighter's earlier post. People need to chill the **** out when driving.
Oh, guys, Tiptronic, isnt just for Porsche. I have it in a Nissan Maxima. Unless it's just a tiptronic knockoff. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> no people need to move their arse! we need faster roads and less kids on them, we need tunnels for people that walk and are on bikes, tunnels under the road so people on the street can get some speed
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> well theyre blocking the road for **** sake<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.
And like life itself, you're sometimes dealt cruel hands while driving and have to deal with the stress. That's what this is all about - how you handle the stress. Some people deal with stress better than others. I HAD to deal with it on a daily basis for 31 years.
So the next time a slow-poke is holding you up and you feel like flipping him off, count to ten and take a deep breath, then smile/wave at the dude/dudette as you fly by. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> well theyre blocking the road for **** sake<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.
And like life itself, you're sometimes dealt cruel hands while driving and have to deal with the stress. That's what this is all about - how you handle the stress. Some people deal with stress better than others. I HAD to deal with it on a daily basis for 31 years.
So the next time a slow-poke is holding you up and you feel like flipping him off, count to ten and take a deep breath, then smile/wave at the dude/dudette as you fly by. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> actually i was thinking about getting a crosser or similar because of the freedom it gives you
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Metalcat, I'd move to Germany if I were you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
expand my knowledge<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Autobahn, read up on it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
expand my knowledge<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Autobahn, read up on it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> arent autobahns just regulars highways?
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> well theyre blocking the road for **** sake<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.
And like life itself, you're sometimes dealt cruel hands while driving and have to deal with the stress. That's what this is all about - how you handle the stress. Some people deal with stress better than others. I HAD to deal with it on a daily basis for 31 years.
So the next time a slow-poke is holding you up and you feel like flipping him off, count to ten and take a deep breath, then smile/wave at the dude/dudette as you fly by. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Depot, my dad has been a Truck Driver, and heavy equipment operator, for as long as you. He's done professional driving since the age of 17, and he's at 53 now. He agrees with me fully. Its not borderline road rage, its simple disliking. **** off isn't always a rage.
Alright lets try to stay a bit more on topic then usual eh?
First off:
Quan if I could I would prefer an automatic, not because I learned on one, ( I didn't) but because if you buy a performance car in real world settings those minor increases in power, do not justify the hassle of always having to change gears, especially in city settings, now if you were to live in the country, then it would work out better. As you can stay in one gear longer. Which is why, generally city dwellers burn up clutches more then country, on a manual only.
In addition, CVT's have been in europe for quite some time, probably just on the pricer models. In the US, at the moment, there are only a few that offer them, and they are.<ul><li>Saturn Vue (SUV)</li><li>Audi A4 and A6 (German company, of course nice luxury cars as well, not very quick over all though)</li><li>Nissian Murano (A very fast SUV)</li><li>Honda Insight</li></ul>CVT's are also faster then any other transmission as they don't have to shift gears, which makes them more efficent on mileage and horsepower/torque.
When you step on the gas pedal of a car with a continuously variable transmission, you notice the difference immediately. The engine revs up toward the rpms at which it produces the most power, and then it stays there. But the car doesn't react immediately. Then, a moment later, the transmission kicks in, accelerating the car slowly, steadily and without any shifts. In theory, a car with a CVT should reach 60 mph (100 km/hr) 25-percent faster than the same car with the same engine and a manual transmission [ref]. That's because the CVT converts every point on the engine's operating curve to a corresponding point on its own operating curve.
If you look at the power output curve for the car without a CVT, you can see this to be true. Notice that the tachometer in this situation shows the engine revving up and down with each gear change, which is recorded as a spike in the power output curve (and which the driver feels as a jolt).
CVTs are equally efficient on hills. There is no "gear hunting," because the CVT cycles steplessly down to a gear ratio appropriate for the driving conditions. A conventional automatic transmission shifts back and forth trying to find the right gear, which is far less efficient.
Triptronic transmissions actually started with Audi, Porsche adopted it next, then Mits then Nissian and now even Ford has one. :-)
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> well theyre blocking the road for **** sake<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.
And like life itself, you're sometimes dealt cruel hands while driving and have to deal with the stress. That's what this is all about - how you handle the stress. Some people deal with stress better than others. I HAD to deal with it on a daily basis for 31 years.
So the next time a slow-poke is holding you up and you feel like flipping him off, count to ten and take a deep breath, then smile/wave at the dude/dudette as you fly by. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Depot, my dad has been a Truck Driver, and heavy equipment operator, for as long as you. He's done professional driving since the age of 17, and he's at 53 now. He agrees with me fully. Its not borderline road rage, its simple disliking. **** off isn't always a rage. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Tell your dad he should deal with it, it happens. And you should deal with it too, it's certainly not worth blowin' your blood pressure sky high like you let it. <b>You can<span style='color:white'>NOT</span> control other people's driving - you <span style='color:white'>CAN</span> control how you react to it.</b> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
They only aren't listed because he didn't know about them.
Which is why I brought it up.
@Metalcat: They are slightly more expensive then your standard automatic, they are also a tad bit heavier (around 10 to 25lbs) since they are quite a bit more efficient, well that more then makes up for it. It also goes to show they aren't that expensive if saturn is putting them in their Vues.
Just to boggle Cyndanes mind their is actually IVT as well (Infinitely Variable Transmission) primarily used on heavy machinery E.G Tractors.
As for me giving I haven’t passed my driving test yet and in the UK if you pass on an automatic you are only allowed to drive automatics ill have to say manuals.
As for the debate on CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) it is the way forward over Manuals and automatics that use torque converters and heavy fluid filled flywheels. CVT gearboxes allow the engine to always run at its most efficient; estimates say you can save up to 35% on fuel by switching.
As for my favourite type of transmission sequential has to win, with a gear change time of under .1 of a second it really cant be beat for performance and flexibility. Shame about the cost of sequential gearboxes, mainly why they are only used on very high performance cars.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jul 14 2005, 02:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jul 14 2005, 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. The stress involved in breaking the law has been shown in a medical study (I read about it in Reader's Digest) to decrease the life span of the law breaker. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What about sociopaths and people who disagree with the law and truly believe that they won't get in trouble for it? I don't imagine that any stress would be involved, if you've been told that it's okay to go a bit above the speed limit on a highway.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2. Actually, the minimum speed on the interstate highways in Michigan are 75/55MPH, 55MPH being the minimum. So it's not 1-3MPH, it's actually 15MPH. Does that mean I go that slow? Only when I feel I have to: otherwise I go a safe speed near the speed limit. Usually, in order to not cause traffic jams, I go whatever speed the rest of the highway drivers are going, which is often <b>over</b> the speed limit. I used the highway speeds to give a wider range of speeds: realistically, the highway is the (only) place I am willing to go faster than the speed limit.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I mean unofficially, not legally. It tends to bother some other drivers if you go more than 3 MPH under the limit.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't know what you mean by "slowing down/speeding up a lot", though.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Er, that was my mistake. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I didn't word it properly. What I meant was, if you go more than 5 MPH below the speed limit or more than 10 MPH above the limit, when it's not absolutely necessary.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Stop <i>telling</i> people how they feel when they've just told you that that is not how they feel.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Just because it's not a big deal <i>to you</i> doesn't mean that it isn't a big deal for others. Everyone deals with stress in their own way. Some prefer to let it out, others prefer to bottle it up, others prefer to dissipate it.
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Heck, think of yourself: Smashing into the back of another car is that kind of accident that's REALLY hard to explain to your insurance company.
Heck, think of yourself: Smashing into the back of another car is that kind of accident that's REALLY hard to explain to your insurance company. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I never said I tailgate. I usually stay about 20 feet behind the car in front of me, except at stops, in which its about 5-7 feet. If someone's in my way, I either pass them or change roads.
Edit: Oh, and lolfighter, seriously, chill the **** out and get a more relaxed attitude towards posting. There's nothing worse than someone assuming you are doing something when you're doing nothing of the such just because they do something differently than you, especially when the assuming person is being particularly smarmy about it. If you have to post that way for some reason, it'll just turn the topic into a flamewar.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i hate it when people drive under the speed limit, its so annoying having to pass them
How? <b>(1)</b>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Really, I think people forget that the Speed <b>Limit</b> is not the Speed <b>Requirement</b>. A speed limit of 45MPH doesn't mean everyone should go <b>at least</b> 45MPH. It means that 45MPH is the <b>fastest</b> everyone should be going.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, but you should be going <b>near</b> that. (Within 1-3 MPH, in my opinion) A little over, a little less, no problem. But when you start slowing down/speeding up a lot, then it's pretty dumb.<b>(2)</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. The stress involved in breaking the law has been shown in a medical study (I read about it in Reader's Digest) to decrease the life span of the law breaker.
2. Actually, the minimum speed on the interstate highways in Michigan are 75/55MPH, 55MPH being the minimum. So it's not 1-3MPH, it's actually 15MPH. Does that mean I go that slow? Only when I feel I have to: otherwise I go a safe speed near the speed limit. Usually, in order to not cause traffic jams, I go whatever speed the rest of the highway drivers are going, which is often <b>over</b> the speed limit. I used the highway speeds to give a wider range of speeds: realistically, the highway is the (only) place I am willing to go faster than the speed limit.
I don't know what you mean by "slowing down/speeding up a lot", though.
Well, if we're going to go to anecdotal evidence, then let me give you some of my experiences. Speeders get pulled over and ticketed by police. My driving instructor told me that speed limits are "Requirements, <i>not</i> recommendations."
I want to clarify my previous post: the fastest I've ever gone on a highway is around 80MPH. I've only done that a few times. Usually I'm at 60-70MPH (70MPH being the speed limit). I don't have a problem driving slower than everyone else, although I always make sure if I need to go slower, I stick to the right lane. I don't regularly go faster than the speed limit on highways: however, if I want to pass someone and I need to go 80MPH because I'm in the "fast lane", I will do so. Just wanted to make sure I didn't sound like I was contradicting everything I said, heh.
<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sure: I wouldn't be going anywhere near the speed limit in a hurricane or snowstorm, nor would I expect to go the speed limit around a construction zone or accident site. Otherwise though, I'll go around the speed limit.
The following sentence is evil.
<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The speed limit is posted for ideal conditions. If weather or traffic dictate otherwise you are expected to adjust your speed accordingly.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sure: I wouldn't be going anywhere near the speed limit in a hurricane or snowstorm, nor would I expect to go the speed limit around a construction zone or accident site. Otherwise though, I'll go around the speed limit. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah because noone wanna get ticket by the police now do they
i did this to annoy medhead:
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around.
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To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around.
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To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well theyre blocking the road for **** sake
I didn't target you specifically with my post, Quaunaut, and I can't take responsibility for you taking it personally.
I didn't target you specifically with my post, Quaunaut, and I can't take responsibility for you taking it personally. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
anybody driving slower than the the "recommended" speed is blocking the road
Oh, guys, Tiptronic, isnt just for Porsche. I have it in a Nissan Maxima. Unless it's just a tiptronic knockoff.
Oh, guys, Tiptronic, isnt just for Porsche. I have it in a Nissan Maxima. Unless it's just a tiptronic knockoff. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
no people need to move their arse! we need faster roads and less kids on them, we need tunnels for people that walk and are on bikes, tunnels under the road so people on the street can get some speed
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around.
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To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well theyre blocking the road for **** sake<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.
And like life itself, you're sometimes dealt cruel hands while driving and have to deal with the stress. That's what this is all about - how you handle the stress. Some people deal with stress better than others. I HAD to deal with it on a daily basis for 31 years.
So the next time a slow-poke is holding you up and you feel like flipping him off, count to ten and take a deep breath, then smile/wave at the dude/dudette as you fly by. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around.
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To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well theyre blocking the road for **** sake<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.
And like life itself, you're sometimes dealt cruel hands while driving and have to deal with the stress. That's what this is all about - how you handle the stress. Some people deal with stress better than others. I HAD to deal with it on a daily basis for 31 years.
So the next time a slow-poke is holding you up and you feel like flipping him off, count to ten and take a deep breath, then smile/wave at the dude/dudette as you fly by. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
actually i was thinking about getting a crosser or similar because of the freedom it gives you
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Metalcat, I'd move to Germany if I were you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
why?
expand my knowledge
expand my knowledge<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Autobahn, read up on it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
expand my knowledge<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Autobahn, read up on it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
arent autobahns just regulars highways?
Generally normal highways, only have speed limits on dangerous sections, skip down to the regulations part and the speed limits part.
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around.
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To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well theyre blocking the road for **** sake<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.
And like life itself, you're sometimes dealt cruel hands while driving and have to deal with the stress. That's what this is all about - how you handle the stress. Some people deal with stress better than others. I HAD to deal with it on a daily basis for 31 years.
So the next time a slow-poke is holding you up and you feel like flipping him off, count to ten and take a deep breath, then smile/wave at the dude/dudette as you fly by. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Depot, my dad has been a Truck Driver, and heavy equipment operator, for as long as you. He's done professional driving since the age of 17, and he's at 53 now. He agrees with me fully. Its not borderline road rage, its simple disliking. **** off isn't always a rage.
First off:
Quan if I could I would prefer an automatic, not because I learned on one, ( I didn't) but because if you buy a performance car in real world settings those minor increases in power, do not justify the hassle of always having to change gears, especially in city settings, now if you were to live in the country, then it would work out better. As you can stay in one gear longer. Which is why, generally city dwellers burn up clutches more then country, on a manual only.
In addition, CVT's have been in europe for quite some time, probably just on the pricer models. In the US, at the moment, there are only a few that offer them, and they are.<ul><li>Saturn Vue (SUV)</li><li>Audi A4 and A6 (German company, of course nice luxury cars as well, not very quick over all though)</li><li>Nissian Murano (A very fast SUV)</li><li>Honda Insight</li></ul>CVT's are also faster then any other transmission as they don't have to shift gears, which makes them more efficent on mileage and horsepower/torque.
When you step on the gas pedal of a car with a continuously variable transmission, you notice the difference immediately. The engine revs up toward the rpms at which it produces the most power, and then it stays there. But the car doesn't react immediately. Then, a moment later, the transmission kicks in, accelerating the car slowly, steadily and without any shifts. In theory, a car with a CVT should reach 60 mph (100 km/hr) 25-percent faster than the same car with the same engine and a manual transmission [ref]. That's because the CVT converts every point on the engine's operating curve to a corresponding point on its own operating curve.
If you look at the power output curve for the car without a CVT, you can see this to be true. Notice that the tachometer in this situation shows the engine revving up and down with each gear change, which is recorded as a spike in the power output curve (and which the driver feels as a jolt).
CVTs are equally efficient on hills. There is no "gear hunting," because the CVT cycles steplessly down to a gear ratio appropriate for the driving conditions. A conventional automatic transmission shifts back and forth trying to find the right gear, which is far less efficient.
Triptronic transmissions actually started with Audi, Porsche adopted it next, then Mits then Nissian and now even Ford has one. :-)
is cvt expensive? cheap? the same as auto? the same as manual? the same as a bike?
And if ANYone is driving 5 or 10 mph under the speed limit take a chill pill and deal with it. If they're driving to slow and creating a hazard, notify the police and let THEM deal with it. Stop acting like a damn vigilante ffs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT I JUST DISLIKE IT QUITE A BIT. READ POSTS, DONT ASSUME.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dislike it a bit? HA! Allow me to quote you
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around.
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To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well theyre blocking the road for **** sake<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.
And like life itself, you're sometimes dealt cruel hands while driving and have to deal with the stress. That's what this is all about - how you handle the stress. Some people deal with stress better than others. I HAD to deal with it on a daily basis for 31 years.
So the next time a slow-poke is holding you up and you feel like flipping him off, count to ten and take a deep breath, then smile/wave at the dude/dudette as you fly by. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Depot, my dad has been a Truck Driver, and heavy equipment operator, for as long as you. He's done professional driving since the age of 17, and he's at 53 now. He agrees with me fully. Its not borderline road rage, its simple disliking. **** off isn't always a rage. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Tell your dad he should deal with it, it happens. And you should deal with it too, it's certainly not worth blowin' your blood pressure sky high like you let it. <b>You can<span style='color:white'>NOT</span> control other people's driving - you <span style='color:white'>CAN</span> control how you react to it.</b> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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CVT's really aren't that popular yet, and certainly not one of the 2 options listed by the author.
I do think it's been established that driving an automatic is certainly no less "driving" than a manual.
Which is why I brought it up.
@Metalcat: They are slightly more expensive then your standard automatic, they are also a tad bit heavier (around 10 to 25lbs) since they are quite a bit more efficient, well that more then makes up for it. It also goes to show they aren't that expensive if saturn is putting them in their Vues.
As for me giving I haven’t passed my driving test yet and in the UK if you pass on an automatic you are only allowed to drive automatics ill have to say manuals.
As for the debate on CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) it is the way forward over Manuals and automatics that use torque converters and heavy fluid filled flywheels. CVT gearboxes allow the engine to always run at its most efficient; estimates say you can save up to 35% on fuel by switching.
As for my favourite type of transmission sequential has to win, with a gear change time of under .1 of a second it really cant be beat for performance and flexibility. Shame about the cost of sequential gearboxes, mainly why they are only used on very high performance cars.
What about sociopaths and people who disagree with the law and truly believe that they won't get in trouble for it? I don't imagine that any stress would be involved, if you've been told that it's okay to go a bit above the speed limit on a highway.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2. Actually, the minimum speed on the interstate highways in Michigan are 75/55MPH, 55MPH being the minimum. So it's not 1-3MPH, it's actually 15MPH. Does that mean I go that slow? Only when I feel I have to: otherwise I go a safe speed near the speed limit. Usually, in order to not cause traffic jams, I go whatever speed the rest of the highway drivers are going, which is often <b>over</b> the speed limit. I used the highway speeds to give a wider range of speeds: realistically, the highway is the (only) place I am willing to go faster than the speed limit.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I mean unofficially, not legally. It tends to bother some other drivers if you go more than 3 MPH under the limit.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't know what you mean by "slowing down/speeding up a lot", though.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Er, that was my mistake. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I didn't word it properly. What I meant was, if you go more than 5 MPH below the speed limit or more than 10 MPH above the limit, when it's not absolutely necessary.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To me that sounds like more than disliking a bit ... sounds like borderline road rage. Don't get **** off at someone driving 5mph under, it's just ... not ... worth it Q.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Stop <i>telling</i> people how they feel when they've just told you that that is not how they feel.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I drove professionally for 31 years, well over 2,000,000 miles - so it does little good to tell me "theyre blocking the road for **** sake", because it's part of life.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just because it's not a big deal <i>to you</i> doesn't mean that it isn't a big deal for others. Everyone deals with stress in their own way. Some prefer to let it out, others prefer to bottle it up, others prefer to dissipate it.