I Need Some Help Drasticly

MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
I need to talk to someone. Apparently there are people who think that I hack. I'm feeling completely hopeless right now because there is absolutely NO WAY to prove I DON'T hack. Somebody please help me, I will do ANYTHING to prove I don't hack. If there's a file that shows you EVERYTHING on my computer, or a way to let you see my screen when I'm playing, OR ANYTHING. I WILL DO ANYTHING TO PROVE I DON'T HACK. I don't know what to do. People say I snap onto skulks, well to me it's not hard to shoot a skulk that is like 5 feet or further away, skulks are just EASY for me to track and kill easy. Someone please just HELP ME. What about all the excellent marines on Terror and other good clans? Why don't people think THEY hack?? They have to be better then me. Anyone, just help me I am desperate right now.

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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    It's increadibly easy to tell the difference between a good marine and a hacker, and there's alot more too it then just a snap reflex. I wouldn't worry about hackusations, at some point people who know the difference will see demos of the evidence against you and debunk or confirm any rumors of your hacking.
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    It's not just some pub accusations though. Some good respected players are accusing me. I wouldn't care but suddenly there are people I've never even played with calling me a hacker. They are saying I'll be banned from CAL. This is just insane because I don't hack and I'm scared I will be banned. Isn't there some way I can prove I don't hack?
  • MentarMentar Join Date: 2004-08-03 Member: 30321Members
    edited August 2005
    Yeah, you'll allways be accused of hacking,

    often people are just upset their losing, i swear at people while playing ns and call em hackers all the time (i just say it irl, not in the game itself), it's just venting, ns can get very annoying at times, half the time they don't mean it they're just aggrivated. even without 'hacking' there are alot of people that can 1 shot you with a sg practicaly every time or move so swiftly with a skulk you see nothing but a skulk fly at light speed then you die.

    of course then again you get the morons that say it because they honestly think anyone who can do that must be a hacker.

    o and the 5 year olds and the 'anyone that kills me is a hacker' mentallity



    personaly i get accused of lagging or using 'rate hacks' all the time, i don't get it, i've got an 8/1 mb connection and have a steady 80-90 ping, how they can not tell the difference between lag and them just plain missing is beyond me.

    so just ignore them, as he said: to have anything done about your 'hacking' they'd have to show this 'proof' to the server admins who should be able to tell the difference between someone doing well and someone cheating.

    and people will say they're gonna have banned all the time. in general people are egotistical morons who overstate their authority. unless someone who actualy has the ability to ban you says they might ban you don't even give it a second thought.
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    edited August 2005
    You don't understand. These aren't just people venting. They are recording demos, and apparently telling a lot of people that I hack. And they are respected people (CWAG and others) so people ARE going to beleive them no matter WHAT I do or say. They are recording demos and are going to try to get me banned from CAL and probably the servers I play on enjoy very much. They are saying that I am twitching and locking onto skulks. Well yes I probably do do that, but I do it legitimetely. And when I play with skilled players and highly respected people, I play even BETTER because I want to prove myself and make them think I am good. Apparently I need to stop playing in pubs and buy 20 steam accounts and hide behind smurf names, otherwise I won't be able to play in CAL and on the pubs I love. I beleive a great deal of this is because I am in tweed. And we all know Lord Soth was banned for hacking. I keep getting comments when I am playing well like "Soth must have left you a present before he was banned" and crap like this. I'm not taking this lightly, I'm going to do everything I can do defend myself. If there is a CAL place or admin or something near where I live, I will even take my PC there. I'm not just saying this crap to make you all beleive me, I need to defend myself. You guys don't even know how FURIOUS this is making me. The good players in Terror don't get accused of hacking, but _I_ do?! Apparently if I'm found not guilty, I could be Terror-materiel.


    P.S. I have talked to some of the accusers and they aren't even being mature about this. I ask where I can talk to admins and they say stuff like "Why would you want to do that?" "And what are you gonna talk to them about, pancakes" Apprently these guys just care about getting me banned, unfairly or not. And if any of these people want to start acting mature, maybe you could let me have a look at some of demos you have. I want to make sure they aren't downloading hacks themselves and recording demos of other people hacking, and just saying it's me..
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Let me put it this way, you're either incredibly lucky AND a better shot than mustang, or toggling, nothing else to it.
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    Look CWAG. That time I snapped onto you near ventilation hive in ns_caged. You were hiding behind that box, and I was taking potshots at you. I knew you were down to VERY low health. We had MT. I saw one of your teammates trying to sneak up behind me from a vent. I knew you weren't gonna come charging at me with your low health, so I ignored you for the time being. You teammate came out of the vent, and I killed him. As I was shooting him, I knew you would take the oppurtunity to retreat to your hive and heal. So I finished him as fast as I could so I could take my fight back to you.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMakaveli+Aug 2 2005, 03:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMakaveli @ Aug 2 2005, 03:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Look CWAG. That time I snapped onto you near ventilation hive in ns_caged. You were hiding behind that box, and I was taking potshots at you. I knew you were down to VERY low health. We had MT. I saw one of your teammates trying to sneak up behind me from a vent. I knew you weren't gonna come charging at me with your low health, so I ignored you for the time being. You teammate came out of the vent, and I killed him. As I was shooting him, I knew you would take the oppurtunity to retreat to your hive and heal. So I finished him as fast as I could so I could take my fight back to you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Im not referring to that, or the time you suspiciously snapped to multiple skulks when your obs went down, I've been watching you under a smurf name for a few days now.
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    I know the best thing to do would be to ignore all this and let the admins handle it. But I have been wrongfully banned in the past, granted not by high-up admins, but just regular server admins. I know wrongful-bans are not completely non-existant. I am scared the CAL admins will listen to respected NS players like CWAG, and what CWAG says will be in their mind as they watch the demos, and they will already have the mind-set that I am a hacker. I have also heard stories about cal admins being mostly experienced in CounterStrike, and not knowing exactly how NS works. I'm going crazy here because I DONT HACK, and these people think I do and there's nothing I can do to defend myself. If a couple admins think I hack, BOOM I'm a hacker. Even if I don't hack. Be warned people, being good at a game on the Internet sucks, because you can't defend yourself in person.
  • voulgevoulge Join Date: 2005-07-20 Member: 56337Members
    MrMakaveli,

    People are calling you a hacker. Now its time to think like LOBO.
    Situation A) - people call you "hacker" on a server
    AnswerA- Tell them you do not hack. When they say "BS HAXZOR!11" either ignore them, or abuse the hell out of them. be careful about your abuse however, because you get the occasional impartial admin, plus, if you abuse them and they kill you, you will never hear hte end of it.

    Situation B) - people call you "hacker" on a server
    AnswerB [warning, this is not for the shallow hearted] [ methodB however is preferred]
    - Stop what you are doing, F4, and then join their' team. WHat i do is tell them to quite your whinging (much more effective if you have mic, as it is more personal) and tell them to start working as a team. Tell them you have no time for people whinging about every small thing you do. Spend the next 20 or so minutes doing nothing but helping the team (which means screaming for orders and capping rt's/gorging for hive and rt's etc.) DO NOT STAY IN SPAWN or they start to abuse you... you must take an active role in attempting to aid the team. Once you have aided the team to a point where you would like to start having fun again, save for levels/do what you want within confines of Comm's orders. If they continue to hassle you, telll them to shove off, and ignore them (mute them). Hassles solved.

    If you sincerely have no HAX running, then you have nothing to worry about. The only way you will be banned from CAL or any server (apart from when server is accusing you of HAX and just don't plain like you) a demo of you must be supplied, and if you are ligit in not hacking, then anone will be able to see that the whingers are just who they are: whingers.

    No probs, but use diplomacy at all costs, unless you'r just plain fed up, in which case turn the mute on, let them know, then abuse them... it works for me hehe <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    LOBO
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    Man... Snapping to skulks is just easy for me. I've been playing NS for years now, and when I first started playing I was playing for 5 or more hours a day. I just have aiming down to science in this game. Sometiems I can't track skulks completely, because I have gotten used to certain movement patterns while I aim. If a skulk is on my left side, he's basically screwed because I move to the right and go around him in a circular motion. If a skulk is in a certain position around me, he's gonna die. If I compltely stand still, I can't aim. If a skulk is on my right side, it's harder for me to hit him. I'm basically saying there's much more to it then just snapping on him. I can't explain all this... Oh well it doesn't matter anyway. Anything I say won't help. Just to cut to the point, what can I do to defend myself? Run VAC on my PC? I mean ANYTHING I will do it.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMakaveli+Aug 2 2005, 03:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMakaveli @ Aug 2 2005, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Man... Snapping to skulks is just easy for me. I've been playing NS for years now, and when I first started playing I was playing for 5 or more hours a day. I just have aiming down to science in this game. Sometiems I can't track skulks completely, because I have gotten used to certain movement patterns while I aim. If a skulk is on my left side, he's basically screwed because I move to the right and go around him in a circular motion. If a skulk is in a certain position around me, he's gonna die. If I compltely stand still, I can't aim. If a skulk is on my right side, it's harder for me to hit him. I'm basically saying there's much more to it then just snapping on him. I can't explain all this... Oh well it doesn't matter anyway. Anything I say won't help. Just to cut to the point, what can I do to defend myself? Run VAC on my PC? I mean ANYTHING I will do it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So have I and granted im no where near as good as I used to be it really gets suspicious when 5-6 high level delta players start stalking you as a smurf and are all on the same ventrilo analyzing your every move without you even knowing.
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    Well voulge it all boils down to this: I am scared of being wrongfully banned. I don't care what people are saying. I don't care about the abuse and people not liking me. I just don't want to be wrongfully banned.
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    Well I'm gonna go play some NS now. Keep speccing me if you want, I'm not suddenly gonna be a horible player. I'll keep playing how I've been: legit.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    It also dosen't help your case at all that Lord Soth was caught doing the same thing you were accused of, and that you were both in the same team.
  • HellabeansHellabeans Universal NS Scapegoat Join Date: 2005-04-12 Member: 48269Members, Constellation
    Ive specced you before..you dont snap around the place..you try to hide it and only snap when youre naturally close to the skulk through your own aiming..then you go in for the kill
  • voulgevoulge Join Date: 2005-07-20 Member: 56337Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMakaveli+Aug 2 2005, 03:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMakaveli @ Aug 2 2005, 03:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well voulge it all boils down to this: I am scared of being wrongfully banned. I don't care what people are saying. I don't care about the abuse and people not liking me. I just don't want to be wrongfully banned. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    whell then if ur only scared (minus the hax) who gives a ****!!!
    They CANT rongfully ban you dude... the only people that CAN rongfullly ban you is nasty little dedicated server owners who just dont plain like you, and the only thing that you can do is to accept that some people are just plain idiots, and move on to other servers. As with banning you from NS or any server that is run by a worthwhile server/person, they gotta send it in to their ppl/ give steam a call and a half and demo you and get your scripts and all this other stuff that i dont understand (like cwags big words like 'ventrillo' and things like that... i just dont know enough about console/spectator programs.) but anyways, if your legit, dont worry about anything, and if the abuse dont worry you, then dont worry even more. there are always people that say 'he hax'. Actualy, i think it is quite funny when people say i "hax" its sooo funny, specially when i have a score of like 10-3
    >_<... hrrmmmm, there are just plain wierd ppl out there, and ppl that are jealous/nasty after too much coffee... it is sad however that hax accusations are becoming as frequent as LA muggings <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Splinter_SteveSplinter_Steve Join Date: 2005-03-20 Member: 45881Members
    edited August 2005
    It really is a scary thing sometimes. You never know if you're gonna have a good game where you could be portrayed as a hacker when your aim gets up there. I've gotten a few "have fun trying to play in CAL" and stuff myself from people you'd believe know what they're talking about. There is a line between blatant (aiming at the direct center of the skulk with perfect reg time after time with locking on and junk) and conspicuous (motion tracking and hitting a cloaked skulk who stopped in a corner not too long ago in the next room, etc).

    That said, I have absolutely zero confidence that people will only ban by proof, from some of the things I've seen with server admins, CAL admins, veterans, etc. If somebody with a lot of credibility starts throwing around accusations it's usually for a good reason, though. If you get a witchhunt on your **** (which good thing there's rules on here against), you better believe you're guilty until proven innocent. And how the heck do you prove innocence when guilt doesn't need to be proved to deem you guilty? Really can be scary if you've done nothing wrong.
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    When I'm building something, I keep my crosshair right on the building I am building, but I don't look at it. I usually look at vents or corners where skulks could come from. SO just cuz my crosshair is on something, doesn't mean my eyes are looking at where my crosshair is.
    So when I'm building, I look where skulks can come from, and if I hear one around the corner, I don't necessarily stop building. I keep building to make him think I don't know he's coming, then I let him get into good killing range, and when he does, I stop building, and snap my crosshair right where I'm looking at with my eyes. Put yourself in my shoes, you kick **** at this game and you don't cheat, and people think you do, and there's nothing you can do about it.
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    You guys say competitive NS is dying, and a new player joins who has some skill, and you try to kick him out.
  • voulgevoulge Join Date: 2005-07-20 Member: 56337Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMakaveli+Aug 2 2005, 04:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMakaveli @ Aug 2 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You guys say competitive NS is dying, and a new player joins who has some skill, and you try to kick him out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LIES!!!

    WE are not trying to kick you out... it is purely the whingers.
    True - if you are building an RT, and are looking at it whilst building, people cannot see you looking at your map if they are demo'ing you.

    take their scepticism with a grain of salt. Ignore Ignore Ignore!
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    Can a mod delete/lock this please?
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Well thats a 2x4 to the nuts.
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