The Opera Web Browser Thread
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Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">No Caek, Pai Welcome</div>Welcome to my newest thread, in which I attempt to convince you to ditch your godawful, slow, security-unfriendly or memory-leaky browser and embrace the free, fast, sleek, standards-compliant USB-portable innovative super mega browser <a href="http://www.opera.com/" target="_blank"><b><u>Opera</b></u></a>.
So, why do you want Opera, you ask? That's a stupid question, just download it. But since you're here:
<ul><li>Easy ad-blockage, sans confusing plugins</li><li>Easy tab management, sans memory-hogging plugins</li><li>Window-within window support if you wish (sans plugins)</li><li>Integrated RSS, mail, calendar, etc, sans plugins (if you want them)</li><li>Super mega fast compared to Firefox</li><li>Super mega secure compared to IE</li><li>Super mega runs on Windows compared to Safari</li><li>Super mega won't log your keyboard entries and send them to bad people compared to a keylogger</li><li>Runs Greasemonkey scripts (if you don't know what they are, you don't need to care)</li><li>Standards compliant, one of the first browsers to pass the <a href="http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html" target="_blank">acid test</a> 100%</li><li><a href="http://www.opera-usb.com/operausben.htm" target="_blank">Can be carried around on a nice little USB stick</a></li><li>Hasn't crashed on my anywhere near as much as Firefox</li><li>It's got a download manager and a Bittorrent client and a sidebar if you want</li><li>Easy bookmark management with stuff like session saving without any plugins</li><li><a href="http://widgets.opera.com/" target="_blank">WIDGETS! My favorite runs Pandora Internet Radio</a></li><li>You can act elitist not only to IE users but even to Firefox users</li><li>Tycho uses it!</li><li>Chuck Norris would use it if he used the Internet!*</li><li>Flayra uses it!*</li><li>It's good.</li><li>Seriously it's a lot less clunky than Firefox</li><li>Infinitely customizable right out of the box compared to other browser: drag just about any menu anywhere you want, or turn them on/off</li></ul>
*Unconfirmed
Do you need more convincing? Well, did you know that Firefox has a 25% of reducing the viable life of any hard drive it accesses more than 3 times a day by up to a year? It might be a lie, but then again, <i>it could be true</i>.**
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So, why do you want Opera, you ask? That's a stupid question, just download it. But since you're here:
<ul><li>Easy ad-blockage, sans confusing plugins</li><li>Easy tab management, sans memory-hogging plugins</li><li>Window-within window support if you wish (sans plugins)</li><li>Integrated RSS, mail, calendar, etc, sans plugins (if you want them)</li><li>Super mega fast compared to Firefox</li><li>Super mega secure compared to IE</li><li>Super mega runs on Windows compared to Safari</li><li>Super mega won't log your keyboard entries and send them to bad people compared to a keylogger</li><li>Runs Greasemonkey scripts (if you don't know what they are, you don't need to care)</li><li>Standards compliant, one of the first browsers to pass the <a href="http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html" target="_blank">acid test</a> 100%</li><li><a href="http://www.opera-usb.com/operausben.htm" target="_blank">Can be carried around on a nice little USB stick</a></li><li>Hasn't crashed on my anywhere near as much as Firefox</li><li>It's got a download manager and a Bittorrent client and a sidebar if you want</li><li>Easy bookmark management with stuff like session saving without any plugins</li><li><a href="http://widgets.opera.com/" target="_blank">WIDGETS! My favorite runs Pandora Internet Radio</a></li><li>You can act elitist not only to IE users but even to Firefox users</li><li>Tycho uses it!</li><li>Chuck Norris would use it if he used the Internet!*</li><li>Flayra uses it!*</li><li>It's good.</li><li>Seriously it's a lot less clunky than Firefox</li><li>Infinitely customizable right out of the box compared to other browser: drag just about any menu anywhere you want, or turn them on/off</li></ul>
*Unconfirmed
Do you need more convincing? Well, did you know that Firefox has a 25% of reducing the viable life of any hard drive it accesses more than 3 times a day by up to a year? It might be a lie, but then again, <i>it could be true</i>.**
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I guess I'll move to Opera, if it has BugMeNot, Dictionary Search, DownThemAll, ForecastFox, and Image Zoom.
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Opera can do all that and more. Dictionary Search is built in (highlight and right click a word, or use the built in search box), <a href="http://widgets.opera.com/widget/4172" target="_blank">BugMeNot</a> and <a href="http://widgets.opera.com/search/?search=weather&scope=all&x=0&y=0" target="_blank">ForecastFox</a> are available through widgets, <a href="http://userjs.org/scripts/browser/enhancements/zoom-image" target="_blank">ImageZoom</a> via a script, and DownThemAll functionality that is built in (ctrl + j).
Edit: And that's just how I do it. BugMeNot is also a script you could install, and I'm sure that's the case for lots of other things too.
Everything works, its fast, and like Tycho said, a lot of Firefox plugins are already widgets.
<ul><li>Translate into or out of 8 different languages on the fly, even from one language to another, bypassing English.</li><li>Install new scripts and widgets easily without restarts</li><li>Change your UI on the fly</li><li>Get used to the browser before the Wii comes out, because Opera's what the Wii is gonna use</li><li>Fast, responsive, customizable mouse gestures without a plugin</li><li>Optional voice control</li><li>You can surf ENTIRELY with the keyboard. Great for... people without mice</li><li>Intelligent "fast forward" to move through a series of pages with the "forward" button without having to have loaded them all before</li><li>Better webpage zoom than Firefox, without an extension</li><li>All sorts of neat tools for web developers, even a thingie that lets you see what it looks like on a mobile device</li><li>Just about everything you've ever done with Firefox, except faster and built in instead of tucked within a slow (or memory-leaky) extension</li><li>Pop-up blocking! This doesn't sound cool now but in 1996 you would have been all over this</li></ul>
I've heard all this before. I got sick and tired of the Firefox users when they were on their advertising rampage. They were like Jehova's Wittnesses. They'd come up, ask you if you were using Firefox, then flip out and go "OMG WHY NOT?! DO YOU NOT WANT YOUR COMPUTER TO BE ONE OF THE ONLY 192000 THAT GET INTO SPYWARE-FREE LAND???" if you said that you didn't.
And now I'm sick and tired of Opera users. Your religious fanaticism is getting tiresome.
FACT: FireFox has a nifty feature/extension (I really can't remember which since they're so freaking easy to install and forget) that lets me open a page in an IE tab. As well as mark an entire site so that it will always be opened in IE. And don't think it doesn't help, the easiest example that comes to mind is <a href="http://www.ytmnd.com" target="_blank">http://www.ytmnd.com</a>
So, go drink some slow roasted javascript while some beatnik rants about fully compliant html. HIPPIES!
FACT: Standards got thrown away a long time ago when they were inconvenient. So now the majority of pages are authored and tested to work with IE or Mozilla (FireFox).
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Actually, standards are used more and more when it comes to web development.
I'm not a fan of Opera, I've gotten very annoying CSS-bugs with it (mainly absolute positioning in fluid layouts).
You are though. I mean, Firefox IS that much better than IE: tabs, popup blocking, integrated search, no exploits. The only downsides are that you have to find an extension of possibly dubious quality for all the features you want, and Firefox itself can be downright sluggish handling tabs and loading pages. Opera, as far as I've experienced, is much faster both in switching from tab to tab/opening and closing tabs, and in loading new pages or especially old pages (like when I hit the back button).
But, firefox > opera, soz, but it's true! I like your footnote about flayra using opera!
[...]And lolf, I don't think I ever called you stupid for considering another browser.[...]
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Nope. But you did in the next sentence. Quod erat demonstrandum.
(That's latin for "I've spent more time memorising latin expressions than you.")
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Lawwwll, lolfighter, are you seriously still using IE?[...]
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Nope.