Saddam Hussein sentenced to death

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Saddam Hussein was found guilty of crimes against humanity on Sunday and sentenced to hang for the 1982 killing of 148 Shia Muslims in a town north of Baghdad.

The former Iraqi president shouted "God is Great" and "You are servants of the occupiers — you are traitors," before Judge Rauf Abdel Rahman finished reading the verdict and sentence.

"Life for us and death to our enemies, death to the enemies of the people. Long live this glorious nation and death to the enemies," Saddam said as four guards took him out of the courtroom.

His chief lawyer later issued a statement, saying Saddam wanted Iraqis to reject the sectarian violence that could increase in the wake of the verdict.

"The president said that 'Saddam Hussein won't be defeated," lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi told the Associated Press. "He said the people will remain strong and steadfast."

The former dictator's trial had heard that he ordered the 148 executions in revenge for an assassination attempt in Dujail, 65 kilometres north of Baghdad.

Half-brother sentenced to death

Two of Saddam's senior aides, including his half-brother Barzan al-Tikriti and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, the head of Iraq's former Revolutionary Court, were also sentenced to hang.

Iraq's former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan was convicted of premeditated murder and sentenced to life in prison.

Three defendants were sentenced to 15 years in prison for torture and premeditated murder. Abdullah Kazim Ruwayyid and his son Mizhar Abdullah Ruwayyid were party officials in Dujail, along with Ali Dayih Ali. They were believed responsible for the Dujail arrests.

Another co-defendant, Baath party official Mohammed Azawi Ali, was acquitted.

Some feared the verdicts could intensify Iraq's sectarian violence after a trial that stretched over nine months. Clashes immediately broke out Sunday in north Baghdad's heavily Sunni Azamiyah district.

Elsewhere in the capital, celebratory gunfire rang out.

"This government will be responsible for the consequences, with the deaths of hundreds, thousands or even hundreds of thousands, whose blood will be shed," Salih al-Mutlaq, a Sunni political leader, told the al-Arabiya satellite television station.

In Saddam's hometown of Tikrit, about 1,000 people defied the curfew that began on Saturday and carried pictures of the former leader through the streets.

But many Iraqis cheered the verdict in the predominantly Shia district of east Baghdad, known as Sadr City. During his 24 years as president, Saddam favoured his Sunni minority for top government jobs and persecuted the Shia majority and the Kurds.

Lawyers plan appeal

Saddam's chief lawyer condemned Saddam's trial as a "farce," claiming the verdict handed down by the U.S.-sponsored panel of judges was planned. He said the defence team would appeal within 30 days.

The death sentences automatically go to a nine-judge appeals panel, which has unlimited time to review the case. If the verdicts and sentences are upheld, the executions must be carried out within 30 days.

"Since day one, we said the trial was politically motivated 100 per cent and that it's completely illegal," defence laywer Al-Dulaimi said. "The defence voice was not allowed to be heard at all."

Al-Dulaimi also said that the security situation in Baghdad was "very dangerous."

"Iranian intelligence and U.S. invaders are patrolling around. There's nobody else on the streets," he said. "Baghdad looks like a ghost town."

On Saturday, Iraqi authorities ordered both cars and people off the streets of Baghdad and three surrounding provinces ahead of the verdict.

Throughout the capital, people were scrambling to stock up on up on food and water as authorities set up additional roadblocks, stepped-up patrols and cancelled all leave for Iraqi troops.

Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled in April 2003 during a campaign led by U.S. forces, on the assertion that Iraq possessed hidden stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction.

After an intense manhunt, the former dictator was captured by American soldiers in December 2003 at a farmhouse in the town of Adwar, not far from his hometown of Tikrit.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The former Iraqi president shouted "God is Great" and "You are servants of the occupiers — you are traitors," before Judge Rauf Abdel Rahman finished reading the verdict and sentence.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "God is great" is an odd thing to shout for one of the most secular middle-eastern leaders.
  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    Don't know why they bother with a trial. Anyone could have seen this one coming. Although in my opinion, the bugger shouldn't be hanged. It was just the US putting its nose into where it didnt belong. US dont even have a good reason for invading the country.

    US is a gd country but that was one big mistake in my opinion.
  • LofungLofung Join Date: 2004-08-21 Member: 30757Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1573643:date=Nov 5 2006, 11:47 PM:name=BadMouth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BadMouth @ Nov 5 2006, 11:47 PM) [snapback]1573643[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Don't know why they bother with a trial. Anyone could have seen this one coming. Although in my opinion, the bugger shouldn't be hanged. It was just the US putting its nose into where it didnt belong. US dont even have a good reason for invading the country.

    US is a gd country but that was one big mistake in my opinion.
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    for the sake of oil?
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited November 2006
    For freedom and justice! And for Halliburton. But primarily freedom and justice. Only a little Halliburton really. Seriously. Well, just a tiny bit more. But hey, money is good, right? You like money, don't you? And you love your country, right? I mean, you're not telling me you're not a patriot, right? You ARE a patriot, right? And you support our troops, right? I mean, what kind of monster wouldn't support our troops? You're not such a monster, are you? Are you a monster? Think long and hard about it. Are you with us, or are you a monster? Because there really isn't any other choice. You're not a monster, are you?

    Oh, and before anyone accuses me of sympathising with <strike>Hitler</strike> Saddam: The pot calling the kettle black doesn't make either of them less sooty.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1573643:date=Nov 5 2006, 07:47 AM:name=BadMouth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BadMouth @ Nov 5 2006, 07:47 AM) [snapback]1573643[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Don't know why they bother with a trial. Anyone could have seen this one coming. Although in my opinion, the bugger shouldn't be hanged. It was just the US putting its nose into where it didnt belong. US dont even have a good reason for invading the country.

    US is a gd country but that was one big mistake in my opinion.
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    Trials are done, as the moment you remove one person's rights, no matter how guilty you all know they are, you bring into question everyone's rights.

    Or at least, thats how it is in America. I don't know about Iraq's new law system.
  • ExploderExploder Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58202Members
    I just saw this in the news. I guess he deserved it. Something that scares me is the amount of protests going on about this. Somehow he managed to brainwash his people.
  • MantaManta Join Date: 2005-01-12 Member: 35056Members
    Interesting. I didn't know hanging was still a utilized method of execution under law.
  • RevlicRevlic Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58367Members
    It is in a lot of states in the US.

    Ironically the Iraqis abolished the firing squad.

    I find it funny how we can start invading countries on human rights. But then do a 360 on middle eastern countries. Saddam was a irredeemable killer and sociopath who actively gassed his own people and we can barely find any mass graves in Serbia.
  • exoityexoity Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14620Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Him being executed is a mistake, he ran his country like his country and we didn't even have a reason to even go to Iraq besides of the fact for "terrorist reasons". To me Saddam is not much different then Bush, they just have different ways of killing people. I recently had a friend that was suppose to come back from Iraq after a year of being there, however, he was hit with some "90 Day Extention" garbage that George Bush approved. He was told only a week before he was about to return home that he would have to stay. He was killed three days after he was suppose to come back. Different leaders, different terrorists.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1573766:date=Nov 6 2006, 12:26 AM:name=exoity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(exoity @ Nov 6 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]1573766[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Him being executed is a mistake, he ran his country like his country and we didn't even have a reason to even go to Iraq besides of the fact for "terrorist reasons". To me Saddam is not much different then Bush, they just have different ways of killing people. I recently had a friend that was suppose to come back from Iraq after a year of being there, however, he was hit with some "90 Day Extention" garbage that George Bush approved. He was told only a week before he was about to return home that he would have to stay. He was killed three days after he was suppose to come back. Different leaders, different terrorists.
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    So since Saddam and Bush are both *******s, neither should be executed? My reasoning would've led in the other direction, if you catch my drift...
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Meh, it doesn't matter really. For the things he did, he deserves it. But removing his regime, not sure what good it has done for the future of Iraq or the entire middle east for that matter? As soon as our troops (international troops) are gone to keep the peace and the area "stable", which I think is not going to happen any time soon. All hell will probably break loose in just a few months...
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    That's just what we need, another martyr.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Well, getting sentenced to death and getting executed are two different things really.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Suggest moving this to the discussion forum?

    I'm just going to avoid this one altogether...
  • wankalotwankalot Join Date: 2005-02-05 Member: 39872Members
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Interesting. I didn't know hanging was still a utilized method of execution under law.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    well it depends where u go.. japan still hang people and that kinda suprised me. Three guards each simultaneously press a button, one of which releases a trap door allowing the victim to be hung. Like it matters though, it is virtually impossible to make executing someone "humanely". It is predicted that up to 20% of lethal injections entail tremendous pain for the victim as the stages are administered incorrectly by the executioner, perhaps even more. It is impossible to tell because the first stage of the procedure paralyses the victim, so u wouldnt even know if they are in pain. other countries, particularly in southeast asia, still use the firing line, and im guessing the bullets dont always hit the head. Um i dunno because im not american... but is the chair still used anywhere in the US?

    Im not trying to start a capital punishment debate (though i am against it) but i think its naive to think that any method of killing someone can somehow be "more appropriate" or "humane" than another.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    He seemed to be the only person who could successfully run a damned country out there, we need to stop pretending that we can "americanize" a country THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND. Iraq wasn't THAT terribly off as far as some countries go. They did something, and they did it well. It was like an actual country. Their leader was wacked and killed some of his own people, but of all the regimes in that part of the world it isn't the worst thing that has happened. We came in, screwed up their country, kidnapped their leader, and are only making things worse now. Putting saddam to death will not help anything, it will only make it worse.
  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    a shot to the head is the most painless. Instant death cos the brain ceases functioning immediately. messy but effective.
  • wankalotwankalot Join Date: 2005-02-05 Member: 39872Members
    true... but thats assming the shooter actually manages to get his aim right <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" />
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1573786:date=Nov 5 2006, 07:51 PM:name=Nil_IQ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nil_IQ @ Nov 5 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]1573786[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Suggest moving this to the discussion forum?

    I'm just going to avoid this one altogether...
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    Do we really need 3 threads on Iraq in there?

    In any event, did anyone really expect there to be any other verdict for this trial whatsoever in the end? Could you imagine what might have occured there if he had NOT been found guilty and sentenced to execution?
  • LofungLofung Join Date: 2004-08-21 Member: 30757Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1573782:date=Nov 6 2006, 08:38 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Nov 6 2006, 08:38 AM) [snapback]1573782[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Well, getting sentenced to death and getting executed are two different things really.
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    hm sorry i dun have those kind of things in my place. what are the differences?
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1573825:date=Nov 5 2006, 11:10 PM:name=BadMouth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BadMouth @ Nov 5 2006, 11:10 PM) [snapback]1573825[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    a shot to the head is the most painless. Instant death cos the brain ceases functioning immediately. messy but effective.
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    Not necessarily. I believe two people were shot in the head during the Dawson College shootings in Montreal, and they both lived... You have to have better aim than just "in the head". It'd be better if they had someone fire point-blank at exactly the right spot, rather than using a firing squad.

    Though personally, I'd rather that people who would receive the death penalty be sent to prison for the rest of their life. And spend the entire time in solitary confinement. I'd much rather that they live and suffer horribly for what they've done, than get the "easy way" out.

    That being said, they should send Saddam to an American prison. He won't last a week. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    send him to a ###### prison camp. give him plenty of soap too for his showers.
  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    edited November 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1573626:date=Nov 6 2006, 01:09 AM:name=CForrester)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CForrester @ Nov 6 2006, 01:09 AM) [snapback]1573626[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    [Saddam Hussein was found guilty of crimes against humanity on Sunday and sentenced to hang for the 1982 killing of 148 Shia Muslims in a town north of Baghdad.
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    well going by that they might as well hang GW Bush and while they are at it, cause he's killed a load more of innocents..........
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1573854:date=Nov 6 2006, 06:45 AM:name=Lofung)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lofung @ Nov 6 2006, 06:45 AM) [snapback]1573854[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    hm sorry i dun have those kind of things in my place. what are the differences?
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    It's not really a question of having them. Anyway, getting sentenced to death means you get placed on death row. Plenty of people serve a life sentence and die a natural death on death row without ever being executed.
  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    No matter what he did, he doesn't deserve to be hanged.

    Saddam is a leader of a people, not a god damn thief. At least ask how he would like to die.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    Well, there's no doubt in my mind that he deserved it. But I don't think the end justified the mean. It's hard to see which is the lesser of the two evils this time. Less Iraqi probably died when Saddam was still in charge, albeit a group was murdered by him...
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1573900:date=Nov 6 2006, 11:15 AM:name=RustySpoon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RustySpoon @ Nov 6 2006, 11:15 AM) [snapback]1573900[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    No matter what he did, he doesn't deserve to be hanged.

    Saddam is a leader of a people, not a god damn thief. At least ask how he would like to die.
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    Thieves don't get sentenced to death.
  • RevlicRevlic Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58367Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1573900:date=Nov 6 2006, 10:15 AM:name=RustySpoon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RustySpoon @ Nov 6 2006, 10:15 AM) [snapback]1573900[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    No matter what he did, he doesn't deserve to be hanged.

    Saddam is a leader of a people, not a god damn thief. At least ask how he would like to die.
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    Sure if you mean mass executions as a fully legitament way of getting political power and maintaining it. There's no excuse for the crimes he committed. We call these things human rights violations on the most massive scale since Adolf Hitler. But we are perfectly content with that.

    Likewise, no one cares about anyone aside from themselves.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    So those squaddies that found him in that hole could have done the job a long time ago, saved alot of time and resources and money? Nice one Team USA/UK.
  • ExploderExploder Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58202Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1573730:date=Nov 5 2006, 09:45 PM:name=Revlic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Revlic @ Nov 5 2006, 09:45 PM) [snapback]1573730[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    It is in a lot of states in the US.

    Ironically the Iraqis abolished the firing squad.

    I find it funny how we can start invading countries on human rights. But then do a 360 on middle eastern countries. Saddam was a irredeemable killer and sociopath who actively gassed his own people and we can barely find any mass graves in Serbia.
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    I find it hard to believe that the USA still use the hanging execution method. Are you absolutely sure?
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