What i used to do was reserve the mygot tag in my users.ini file for adminmod. Then i had a shell script run through, and whenever it found someone try to access the server using that tag, it would auto ban the IP. I wonder if i still have that. If not i know there are other scripts that do similiar things, and could be modified to do this. If you're on the hlds_l mailing list, take a look at the script from Jules (aka Buddha-Pest) i think.
<!--QuoteBegin--Aaron+Nov 9 2002, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ Nov 9 2002, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Scarface121+Nov 9 2002, 01:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scarface121 @ Nov 9 2002, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->why hasnt anyone made a server bot that kick/ban's anyone wearing [myg0t] ? it would be so incredibly useful...
[myg0t]Idiot has connect to server you have been kicked and banned permanently by the server op [myg0t]Idiot: WTF!?!?!?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, then they'd probably just stop wearing the tag, which would even be worse because you couldn't visually identify them. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
A vote kick/ban seems the most appropriate because they will undoubtedly be outnumbered by the rest of well behaved players.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, the reason no one bans people with the [myg0t] tag automatically is because they then post to all their IRC buddies and script kiddie friends to "r4g3" your server, which means getting all their IRC fl00d bots to flood your connection..
If you read their board, they use the [myg0t] tag intentionally to gain noteriety and to try to panic people. I have met a myg0t wanna-be in person, and they are all pretty much misfits, for whom the internet is everything.
Hey, when myg0t is targetting your game, it means you've finally hit the big time and are in the ranks of the likes of Counter-Strike.
Well gentlemen, i must come forward and tell you all that back in the days before CS 1.4, i was a frequent Myg0t user because of the fact that CS was just boring.
Now, belive me or not as the internet and most people in it are very unforgiving, i am sorry for such things. I hardly think of those days of darkness anymore, for it was evil, it was shameless, and i was the lowest thing on earth.
I only tell you this now because i still have an old net of Myg0t friends that keep in tune with the myg0t dev team.
Word is that no cheats currently exist for NS. Myg0t hasn't been modded or converted to cover NS yet.
Not that it is really needed for NS anyway, the marines use a conical bullet spread for the randomnity.
I must say that also because there is no locational damage in NS, aiming for specific spots is also useless.... and the fact that the alien world models would be incredibly hard to use Myg0t's aiming system to track with because of their irregular shape.
Wallhacking would be crazy in NS because of all the new map-builds... you couldnt make out anything.
Now, i will say this again, i do not cheat now, and i will not cheat again. I was cruel and stupid in my youth. I have reached a stage of physical maturity that makes me cringe at the thought of it.
- Those people wearing the Myg0t tags were doing so just for sport, and not out of actually using the aimbot. I am almost completely sure of this.
The fact is, I can't stand to see people talking about how much they "pwned" others by making their game horrible, and I will not see it on this board or in the IRC room(s). They can talk to eachother all they want elsewhere, but when they're here, I expect them, as I expect everyone, to post with some sensibility about them.
Agh...is there not one thing that those crack heads dont ruin? Oh well, could be worst.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
At the moment, adminmod only works for linux servers, but they've isolated the problem with the win32 servers and are working on the solution.
As to why adminmod functions aren't integrated into NS... Why should they duplicate the effort AM has put into it? AdminMod is, in my opinion, a great addition to any HL server provided that it is configured and used properly.
<!--QuoteBegin--LazerMane+Nov 9 2002, 10:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LazerMane @ Nov 9 2002, 10:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Word is that no cheats currently exist for NS. Myg0t hasn't been modded or converted to cover NS yet.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> OpenGL cheats work for any game that uses OpenGL, with slight alterations depending on which shapes the game uses to draw walls, models, etc. Since NS is just a HL mod, any HL OpenGL cheat works just fine. <i>Fortunately</i>, these all rely on making the game ugly to give the player an advantage. Examples are things like bright models, white walls, wireframes, or transparent walls (aka wallhack). Not only is the advantage slight when using an OpenGL hack, it makes everything look horrible. I wouldn't worry about anyone abusing them.
Heres a question: Why hasn't valved stopped myg0t? Isn't their hacking infringing on some copyrights or laws? Why don't they just shut them down?
Heres another: I can find hacks easily. I tested this theory and put in +HL +Half Life +Hacks +Cheats and came up with a crap load of everything. If I can find them this easily, why don't the companies make a move? I see several trainers, I see an EQ hack, HL(CS,BS,OPF,DM,TFC,DOD,Etc.) hacks, etc.
cheats, aimbots, trainers and the like are perfectly legal because they are installed on the client, which you own
after initial confrontations with the law, myg0t now takes great effort to stay away from all illegal stuff like server crashing or cd-key stealing, at least officially
Exactly Misfire. The "Abilities" that you can aquire in NS pretty much make any existing cheat redundant. Not even an aimbot would help much, as there is no locational damage, or one shot kill guns.
Wallhack? Marines motion tracking, alien hivesight, parisite. Aimbot? Well, there was one, Overwatch, but it was taken out for 1.0 as it was to powerful. Changing the textures/models? Why in holy hell would you want to do that? Thats like spraybombing the Mona Lisa.
One way to stop a myg0t from destroying the base is by eliminating tournament mode all together. Myg0ts will use that to destroy their own buildings which I find to be a very bad idea. Also I went onto a server that had friendly fire on and one person kept killing his own teammates besides the enemy. Stuff like this should not be in a mod this good it just gives lamers. llama, and myg0ts that chance to ruin the game.
Don't worry, the dev's hear your complaints, even if 4000 people make the same one over and over again <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin--Twex+Nov 13 2002, 05:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Twex @ Nov 13 2002, 05:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->cheats, trainers and all the other stuff is perfectly legal because they are installed on the client, which you own
after initial confrontations with the law, myg0t now takes great effort to stay away from all illegal stuff like server crashing or cd-key stealing<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, but remember software is usually <i>licensed</i> (you know, the EULA you never read and just click "next") as in, you never own it, it is just a contract. Now despite the arguments about why <i>licensing</i> is a bad thing for software in general, I can imagine that Valve could just insert a statement like:
"In order to use this software you may not cheat on public servers. If you do your license will be revoked"
Or something in equivalent legalese.
I think this might be a good way to handle it. Of course you actually have to <i>catch</i> those losers in action, but once you do, you could totally drag them to court (IANALawyer)...e.g. catch a head myg0t member and use him as an example to others.
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[myg0t]Idiot has connect to server
you have been kicked and banned permanently by the server op
[myg0t]Idiot: WTF!?!?!?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, then they'd probably just stop wearing the tag, which would even be worse because you couldn't visually identify them. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
A vote kick/ban seems the most appropriate because they will undoubtedly be outnumbered by the rest of well behaved players.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, the reason no one bans people with the [myg0t] tag automatically is because they then post to all their IRC buddies and script kiddie friends to "r4g3" your server, which means getting all their IRC fl00d bots to flood your connection..
If you read their board, they use the [myg0t] tag intentionally to gain noteriety and to try to panic people. I have met a myg0t wanna-be in person, and they are all pretty much misfits, for whom the internet is everything.
Hey, when myg0t is targetting your game, it means you've finally hit the big time and are in the ranks of the likes of Counter-Strike.
Now, belive me or not as the internet and most people in it are very unforgiving, i am sorry for such things. I hardly think of those days of darkness anymore, for it was evil, it was shameless, and i was the lowest thing on earth.
I only tell you this now because i still have an old net of Myg0t friends that keep in tune with the myg0t dev team.
Word is that no cheats currently exist for NS. Myg0t hasn't been modded or converted to cover NS yet.
Not that it is really needed for NS anyway, the marines use a conical bullet spread for the randomnity.
I must say that also because there is no locational damage in NS, aiming for specific spots is also useless.... and the fact that the alien world models would be incredibly hard to use Myg0t's aiming system to track with because of their irregular shape.
Wallhacking would be crazy in NS because of all the new map-builds... you couldnt make out anything.
Now, i will say this again, i do not cheat now, and i will not cheat again. I was cruel and stupid in my youth. I have reached a stage of physical maturity that makes me cringe at the thought of it.
-
Those people wearing the Myg0t tags were doing so just for sport, and not out of actually using the aimbot. I am almost completely sure of this.
LazerMane
The fact is, I can't stand to see people talking about how much they "pwned" others by making their game horrible, and I will not see it on this board or in the IRC room(s). They can talk to eachother all they want elsewhere, but when they're here, I expect them, as I expect everyone, to post with some sensibility about them.
<a href='http://www.adminmod.org/ascript/plugin.php#3726973194' target='_blank'>myg0t auto-ban adminmod plugin</a>
At the moment, adminmod only works for linux servers, but they've isolated the problem with the win32 servers and are working on the solution.
As to why adminmod functions aren't integrated into NS... Why should they duplicate the effort AM has put into it? AdminMod is, in my opinion, a great addition to any HL server provided that it is configured and used properly.
Check 'em out: <a href='http://www.adminmod.org' target='_blank'>AdminMod</a>
OpenGL cheats work for any game that uses OpenGL, with slight alterations depending on which shapes the game uses to draw walls, models, etc. Since NS is just a HL mod, any HL OpenGL cheat works just fine. <i>Fortunately</i>, these all rely on making the game ugly to give the player an advantage. Examples are things like bright models, white walls, wireframes, or transparent walls (aka wallhack). Not only is the advantage slight when using an OpenGL hack, it makes everything look horrible. I wouldn't worry about anyone abusing them.
Heres another: I can find hacks easily. I tested this theory and put in +HL +Half Life +Hacks +Cheats and came up with a crap load of everything. If I can find them this easily, why don't the companies make a move? I see several trainers, I see an EQ hack, HL(CS,BS,OPF,DM,TFC,DOD,Etc.) hacks, etc.
after initial confrontations with the law, myg0t now takes great effort to stay away from all illegal stuff like server crashing or cd-key stealing, at least officially
Wallhack? Marines motion tracking, alien hivesight, parisite.
Aimbot? Well, there was one, Overwatch, but it was taken out for 1.0 as it was to powerful.
Changing the textures/models? Why in holy hell would you want to do that? Thats like spraybombing the Mona Lisa.
Don't worry, the dev's hear your complaints, even if 4000 people make the same one over and over again <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
after initial confrontations with the law, myg0t now takes great effort to stay away from all illegal stuff like server crashing or cd-key stealing<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, but remember software is usually <i>licensed</i> (you know, the EULA you never read and just click "next") as in, you never own it, it is just a contract. Now despite the arguments about why <i>licensing</i> is a bad thing for software in general, I can imagine that Valve could just insert a statement like:
"In order to use this software you may not cheat on public servers. If you do your license will be revoked"
Or something in equivalent legalese.
I think this might be a good way to handle it. Of course you actually have to <i>catch</i> those losers in action, but once you do, you could totally drag them to court (IANALawyer)...e.g. catch a head myg0t member and use him as an example to others.
valve CAN revoke the right to play the game online; in fact this is what they are currently doing with the global ban list on VAC