Well it all depends on what you want to use it for, do you want it wireless? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />.
I know Dell have a pretty good one at the moment.
AMD TurionTM 64 Mobile Technology MK-36 XP Home SP2 512MB RAM 15.4 Widescreen 60GB Hard Drive Internal 8x DVD+/-RW Drive
Anyway, the one I own right now that I use for playing HL2/BF2142 and working with 3dsmax costed me about $700 on ebay a year ago. The specs are something like 2.4 ghz, 1 gb ram, Radeon x600. The brandname is "Systemax", and so far I've had 0 problems with it aside from the heating that is to be expected from any laptop.
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edited January 2007
ive got an hp pavilion zv6000, and it has treated me very nicely. it was about $800 new.
amd athlon 64 3200 512 ram ati mobility express 200 dvd burner
it can barely play bf2, but it works great for everything else ive wanted to do. and ive never had a problem with heat or crashing or anything of the sort
but Yeah Im having it with 512 and some sort of athlon most likely. It wont be for game use though, just some basic work and nothing that needs any processor speed of nuthing
I work at a HP repair plant refurbishing laptops, go with one of the laptops with the AMD x2 processor with the geforece GO card. Its pretty damn fast and its not too expensive.
The big question is, how much are you willing to spend?
I work for Dell, and we can configure a wide variety of laptops (as you know already), but if you call my kiosk we can usually work out a better deal than you could just ordering it online or over the telephone (1800 number).
But thats all based on how much you want to spend.
I've had problems with every brand of notebook but Toshiba seems to have the fewest problems and the longest lifespan (it costs a slight bit more but it's well worth it) I've never had to decommission, RMA or service a Toshiba notebook for anything other than a slightly loose power connection that needed a drop of solder. Almost every other brand has their own special thing that makes me hate them. Hewlett-Compaq has the worst support site and driver database EVAR, even random Korean companies nobody has heard of have sites with less engrish. Dell is Dell and they will never be forgiven. Alienware/Falcon and all those fancy places sell you a case that says "mug me, please" but lift enough out of your pocket that you'll be on a ramen-only diet for eternity.
P.S.: I make money provisioning and servicing notebooks for "various people" (tasty contracts that say I can't talk about specifics).
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i didn't say "i got a box of them and only the toshiba worked," i said "i've worked on more notebooks than i care to keep track of and toshiba has had the least problems" please to be reading the posts, kthx. "i don't like dell because of their high parts failiure rate and the fact that they can't keep their drivers in order" != "every dell on earth is broken" (though the latter seems to grow closer to truth every day)
Having done tech work for 2 years, I ended up buying a Toshiba as well. Like BM said, you pay a bit more, but their laptops are generally more durable. At the time, they came with less crap preinstalled too, but that have changed since then <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
So your experience with them is just based off you servicing them?
Kind of a skewed point of view don't you think?
Obviously, working with broken systems all the time may ruin your experience, but as far as I know, Dells are really built to last.
That being said, everyone with a decent head on their shoulders should take your opinions with a grain of salt
"kthx" (blah I thought only 15 year old CS players used that phrase, I was obviously proven wrong) <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
i said "provisioning and servicing." that means "setting up new systems and making old systems work." this includes: - provisioning new "out of box" systems to work with current infrastructure - provisioning old "used" or "recently acquired" systems to do the same - updating systems brought from other areas or systems that have not been updated - preparing systems for "export" (sale) - preparing systems for RMA because of hardware/defect/something - (other stuff that includes working on *non-broken* systems - servicing support tickets
now, given that i work on systems that aren't broken as well as the ones that are, i think it's weird that almost none of my hardware/software/driver/anything issues come from toshibas when we have quite a lot of them running
also, it's true. dells are built to last... until the warranty expires. on the topic of "built to last," <a href="http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/notebook-computers.asp" target="_blank">http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughboo...k-computers.asp</a>
BM, out of pure curiousity, do you have any experience with Sony Vaio's ? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
femme: pretty reliable, nothing exceptional. i dislike them on principal (sony) but they're pretty good for your dollar fire: "our." i like your bias there. also: both, they both suck. end of story. they make awesome heated footrests, though.
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I don't mean to add more fuel to the fire (haw-haw), but I have to agree in warning against Dell. I've never known of one in my close entourage that hasn't had its share of problems (in all parts of the hardware). Most recently, my roommate's year old Dell spontaneously fried its video card (nVidia 6600 iirc) to the point of no return.
Personally, I'm a PC guy all the way, but if I were to get a laptop I would be leaning towards a Mac. They're a little more expensive, but now that they run Windows a MacBook (Pro) looks very appealing. They're not without their problems, mind you, but they do seem generally well constructed.
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I know Dell have a pretty good one at the moment.
AMD TurionTM 64 Mobile Technology MK-36
XP Home SP2
512MB RAM
15.4 Widescreen
60GB Hard Drive
Internal 8x DVD+/-RW Drive
Whats the cost of that thing up there?
Anyway, the one I own right now that I use for playing HL2/BF2142 and working with 3dsmax costed me about $700 on ebay a year ago. The specs are something like 2.4 ghz, 1 gb ram, Radeon x600. The brandname is "Systemax", and so far I've had 0 problems with it aside from the heating that is to be expected from any laptop.
amd athlon 64 3200
512 ram
ati mobility express 200
dvd burner
it can barely play bf2, but it works great for everything else ive wanted to do.
and ive never had a problem with heat or crashing or anything of the sort
D-D-D-D-DOUBLE POST-POST-POST
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Wwwant a dddboulebittchslap?
but Yeah Im having it with 512 and some sort of athlon most likely. It wont be for game use though, just some basic work and nothing that needs any processor speed of nuthing
I work for Dell, and we can configure a wide variety of laptops (as you know already), but if you call my kiosk we can usually work out a better deal than you could just ordering it online or over the telephone (1800 number).
But thats all based on how much you want to spend.
P.S.: I make money provisioning and servicing notebooks for "various people" (tasty contracts that say I can't talk about specifics).
Seems a little ridiculous to me.
You're forgetting that Alienware are actually part of Dell now...
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and it gets the worst of both brands.
i didn't say "i got a box of them and only the toshiba worked," i said "i've worked on more notebooks than i care to keep track of and toshiba has had the least problems"
please to be reading the posts, kthx. "i don't like dell because of their high parts failiure rate and the fact that they can't keep their drivers in order" != "every dell on earth is broken" (though the latter seems to grow closer to truth every day)
Kind of a skewed point of view don't you think?
Obviously, working with broken systems all the time may ruin your experience, but as far as I know, Dells are really built to last.
That being said, everyone with a decent head on their shoulders should take your opinions with a grain of salt
"kthx" (blah I thought only 15 year old CS players used that phrase, I was obviously proven wrong) <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
this includes:
- provisioning new "out of box" systems to work with current infrastructure
- provisioning old "used" or "recently acquired" systems to do the same
- updating systems brought from other areas or systems that have not been updated
- preparing systems for "export" (sale)
- preparing systems for RMA because of hardware/defect/something
- (other stuff that includes working on *non-broken* systems
- servicing support tickets
now, given that i work on systems that aren't broken as well as the ones that are, i think it's weird that almost none of my hardware/software/driver/anything issues come from toshibas when we have quite a lot of them running
also, it's true. dells are built to last... until the warranty expires.
on the topic of "built to last," <a href="http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/notebook-computers.asp" target="_blank">http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughboo...k-computers.asp</a>
I know our home systems are solid as a rock, and I heard our business systems are as well.
I guess you are working with some screwy systems.
fire: "our." i like your bias there. also: both, they both suck. end of story. they make awesome heated footrests, though.
K duder, you eNerded me in to submission. You win.
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Did you just do what I think you just did? You called somebody a nerd.... <i>over the internet?</i>
Seriously, doing that in general is just admitting defeat, grow up.
Personally, I'm a PC guy all the way, but if I were to get a laptop I would be leaning towards a Mac. They're a little more expensive, but now that they run Windows a MacBook (Pro) looks very appealing. They're not without their problems, mind you, but they do seem generally well constructed.