Stargate Vs. Farscape

relsanrelsan Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
Does anyone know why a deep immersive series like Farscape was cancelled while the very dull and unappetizing Stargate still lives on the Sci-Fi channel? Babylon 5 would also be a good replacement. Why is this show still on the air? I guess I just don't find an Egyptian mythology mixed with US government politics to be a very exciting or original sci-fi plot. What do you guys think?
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    there were alot of things going on with Farscape.

    I was VERY sad to see it go, but oh well....

    If you google around you can find alot of info on farscape and why it was canned.

    Oh, and I like stargate also (not as much, but I still like it)...

    so *pbbbbttttt*
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    We all know next generation pwns them all.... but uh... tbh I didn't like either.... I couldn't stand to watch entire seasons of Farscape just to understand what was going on, and couldn't stand Stargate for the fact that they lacked an overall storyline other than "OMG KILL THE STAFF DUDES"
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    I like them both very much, and I hated to see farscape go.

    I understand they had to cut it, but THEY COULD OF F-ING ENDED IT ON A BETTER F-ING NOTE! %**#*%*@*%*(@*%(*@

    I WANTED TO KILL EVERY SCIFI EXEC!

    phew...
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    for a worse note...

    I think they basicaly just cut one season, mabey 2 (the plot DID have a definate ending point coming up)
  • Scorpion571Scorpion571 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9800Members
    I like Stargate more. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    On another note, does anyone remember that show "Red Dwarf"? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    edited April 2004
    im waiting for the Chiana show.

    /drool

    edit: see here for what im talking about <a href='http://members.tripod.com/ligrim/Othr/tvg14.jpg' target='_blank'>http://members.tripod.com/ligrim/Othr/tvg14.jpg</a>
  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    red dwarf imo was a much greater loss than FarScape. tbh farscape always confused me. i like stargate, mainly because it doesn't have the plastic acting and fake emo sub-plots of most sci-fi these days.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    Otto, Stargate SG-1's plot goes a little deeper than that. However, you are right - the overriding theme is to get rid of all Goa'uld. Not sure why that is a problem, but to each his or her own, I suppose.

    I reallly disliked Farscape once the extra characters came on board (such as that white skinned woman, and the old hag with the extra eye). I wasn't fond of the show before, mainly because I felt the writers purposely chose strange angles of the story merely for the sake of being strange. An alien with helium flatulence and a tongue that knocks people out?! It's one example of how the show felt purposely stupid to me.

    However, I assume because I didn't faithfully follow the show, I didn't catch the deeper plot lines that ran through each episode (much as how you have missed Stargate SG-1's plot lines). It's hard to catch up on shows when episodes have been missed.

    On a parting note, I do think I should add that Stargate SG-1's title theme absolutely destroys every note of the Farscape theme, with its synthesized wailing of a dying pig.
  • FinaFina Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3267Members
    I've never been a fan of Farscape. I tried to watch the show a few times, but as soon as that awful theme song started, the channel was changed and not changed back.

    I have greatly enjoyed Stargate SG-1, however. The later seasons have gotten better, not that they were bad in the first place. One thing that always intrigued me about the series is how they've mixed it in with ancient history and cultures, which is something I've always found cool.
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    FIREFLY ROXORS MY PANTS!!!111

    Yeah, someone had to bring it up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> It's a fairly good series.

    But on to the question: Why intelligent and all around good series get cancelled while those stupid series don't? Well, my theory is that crap floats.

    And stupid people watch stupid series(like Starg?te) and there's too many stupid people on this god damned planet. No offense(well maybe a little) to you people who watch SG here.
  • redeemed_darknessredeemed_darkness Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12565Members
    Hmm 6 posts (+1 more me) like both
    2 hate Stargate
    2 hate Farscape

    So nine stupid people here or is dread statement is a bit incorrect
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    Farscape was cool o.o. Sucks it was canned though.
    Stargate SG1 = WIN. Enough said.
  • DoG-MeAtDoG-MeAt Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21553Members
    Stargate is amazing and so is red dwarf...they are both shows that i watch. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • docchimpydocchimpy Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18266Members
    I happen to like Stargate SG1. Never seen farscape, though, so I can't compare the two.
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    Red Dwarf was fantastic and I'm proud that it's British comedy. Rumours of a film never cease. Here's hoping.

    Farscape was suprisingly enjoyable, considering I'm not a great fan of sci-fi shows. Great characters and surreal episodes made it really special, as well as fantastic, well-acted characters such as the superb John Crichton. It's returning for a special miniseries, which is nice. Details <a href='http://www.farscape.com/' target='_blank'>here</a>.

    Stargate is extremely cheesy, but lovable. I can't take it seriously to be honest, but it's worth watching if nothing else is on.

    As for The Next Generation, I'm not much of a Star Trek fan but Jean Luc Picard is one hell of a man. Much respect? Make it so.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Stargate is good, but I hardly ever see a whole episode all the way through, nor do I see them consecutively, so I have a sort of jumbled idea of the plot. I think Daniel dies at some point and then... comes back. And there's some new guy called Jonas and I missed the episode where he was introduced <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Red Dwarf pwns all, the movie started development and rehersals but afaik it's gone on hold repeatedly what with the cast's other parts (Danny John-Jules in Blade 2, Craig Charles in Robot Wars, Chris Barrie in some car program on the discovery channel...).

    So anyway Red Dwarf pwns all.

    Oh, and Farscape sucks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    Red Dwarf 4 lyf!!!!1112!

    Stargate is propably one of the best scifi series ever. I watched a few episodes of Farscape, but I just didnt like it so much. And not a long ago, they started showing Firefly, which I think is not-so-good.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Red Dwarf is the best Sci-Fi show of all time. Along with the NExt Generation. I watch Stargate if absolutely nothing is on TV, and I've only seen half an episode of Farscape.
  • PykmiPykmi Join Date: 2003-04-14 Member: 15473Members
    I've never been a fan of either of these shows. Star Trek is way better <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> .

    I've watched a few eps of Farscape, it's kinda interesting. Could some fanboy tell me what's the name of the actressess that play the blue chick and the busty doctor? I'm lazy.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    Farscape owns Stargate, stargate was all a bit too familiar:a bunch of people people want to eradicate some supposedly 'bad' people from existence, a bit like nazi germany then.

    and yes, red dwarf r0x0r j00 b0x0rz!!!1!!1!1!111!!
  • JaspJasp Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13076Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Red Dwarf is the best Sci-Fi show of all time. Along with the NExt Generation. I watch Stargate if absolutely nothing is on TV, and I've only seen half an episode of Farscape.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If your wondering red dwarf has started coming out on DVD at roughly 10-18 pound a series, currently they have made upto series 4 and 5 should be out in 3/4 of the year.

    As for the movie, work should begin on it later this year (least i hope so).

    As for farscape it started off very well but i lost intrest with all the mind games being played in about series 3? was it with the mind probe thingy scorpius put in his brain. Then zan snuffed it and we got that new funny woman that seemed to do nothing usefull.

    DS9>Stargate.
  • EmseeEmsee Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16644Members, Constellation
    I started watching Farscape and it was really good. Then I went on Holiday for a few weeks (missed last few episode of a season) and havn't been able to figure out whats going on since. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    SG1 is great though. Sure it's cheesy in some places, but it's not there to be taken completely seriously. It's great what they did with such a mediocre film as a source. Love it, personally.

    <a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/03/22/news_6091900.html' target='_blank'>Good(?) News though...</a> the Stargate SG1 license and any futre spin off series (Including Atlantis) have been snapped up by <a href='http://www.jowood.com/' target='_blank'>JoWood Productions</a>. (The people behind S?ldner and Aquanox.)
    As I've never played or even seen any of their games I can't say whether it's good or bad. But fingers crossed...
  • Vahn_PaktuVahn_Paktu Join Date: 2002-10-28 Member: 1666Members, Constellation
    I like Stargate and Farscape. I stopped watching Farscape and then came back and I was like WTH is happening <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Both are good shows though I like SG better.

    Also for Stargate fans <a href='http://www.stargatetc.com/' target='_blank'>The Stargate mod!</a> It's ok but needs work. The next patch (soon) should fix a lot of bugs and have better models.
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-redeemed darkness+Apr 20 2004, 11:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (redeemed darkness @ Apr 20 2004, 11:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So nine stupid people here or is dread statement is a bit incorrect <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, stupid people watch SG. However, maybe some other people watch it too(poor sods).

    But seriously though, it's pretty obvious that intelligent series get canned because they are...well...too intelligent while stupid shows packed with cliches, explosions and nekkid women are watched by millions. I mean there's nothing wrong with explosions and nekkid women but ffs, can't people watch some other shows too?
  • JimJim Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9989Members
    I liked Stargate because it was quite easy-going in comparison to Farscape :o

    Although I watch Red Dwarf to unhealthy levels <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Stargate is okay if there's nothing else to watch. I don't Farscape is on at an oppurtunistic time to be viewed for me. However, back when Sliders was around, I'd watch that (I think it got cancelled, otherwise, I'm just not seeing it in the TVGuide channel...ever...at least, when the TVGuide channel actually showed cable channels you had).

    Sliders was nice when you got to the alternate universes and stuff...some of them were cool...no real sub-plots or love affairs or anything that really bogged it down overly much.

    Stargate has pretty bad acting most of the time. They're too stone faced (espcially that gray haired guy). MST3K still owns everything that has ever been on SciFi (except maybe the 3am anime movie hour from 4 years ago).
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    I never got into stargate but maybe it's the same as what happens with farscape...

    First time I saw farscape it was half-way through the series or something and I just thought 'ick... more muppets in space'. Skip forward a few years though and I was lucky enough to catch the first ep as the series started being shown again on sci-fi and all of a sudden I was hooked. The characters make it more than anything else. They're all full of fun and quirks and interesting pasts and interests even the ship itself and the funky pilot =D

    I suspect a lot of people got put off babylon 5 for the same reason; if you came in half-way through you'd miss all the build up and not know much about the characters.

    Red Dwarf was great but the newer stuff just wasn't as funny for some reason until they got put in prison =P
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <a href='http://scifi.com/farscape/faq/' target='_blank'>Farscape's Cancellation Reasons Here</a>
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Apr 20 2004, 07:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Apr 20 2004, 07:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's returning for a special miniseries, which is nice. Details <a href='http://www.farscape.com/' target='_blank'>here</a>. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Words cannot expression my elation at this moment.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Apr 20 2004, 02:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Apr 20 2004, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    Sliders was nice when you got to the alternate universes and stuff...some of them were cool...no real sub-plots or love affairs or anything that really bogged it down overly much.

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh yea. Definitley my favourite universe was the one that was exactly the same as ours, but everyone had a giant sword. Thats just awsome.
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