<!--QuoteBegin-ViPr+Jun 5 2004, 11:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ViPr @ Jun 5 2004, 11:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this is a blatant exploit. it's obviously a bug if the shotgun pellets don't go out randomly coz in real shotguns the pellets are designed to come out randomly. once flayra knows about this he will obviously change the code to make it random. this exploit allows you to snipe with the shotgun. ridiculous. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Apart from the fact that shotgun bullets disappear after ~16-17 metres.
Also, I do believe the thread you are looking for is <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72365' target='_blank'>here</a>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->ViPr Posted on Jun 5 2004, 11:54 AM this is a blatant exploit. it's obviously a bug if the shotgun pellets don't go out randomly coz in real shotguns the pellets are designed to come out randomly. once flayra knows about this he will obviously change the code to make it random. this exploit allows you to snipe with the shotgun. ridiculous. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
...Hrmm..snipe with a shotgun...hrmm..you DO know that the effective ness and stopping power of a shotgun decreases the further you get away from your intended target...right?
<!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Jun 5 2004, 03:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Jun 5 2004, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mp_consistency 1 blocks pretty much everything except crosshairs and certain sprites, like digesting.
tbh i don't think modifying crosshairs gives you much better aim <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <i>Very</i> naive statement... I won't go into the technicalities of consistency at the moment for fear of creating even more exploiters, but rest assured consistency does NOT sufficient protection in it's current form.
<!--QuoteBegin-ViPr+Jun 5 2004, 11:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ViPr @ Jun 5 2004, 11:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this is a blatant exploit. it's obviously a bug if the shotgun pellets don't go out randomly coz in real shotguns the pellets are designed to come out randomly. once flayra knows about this he will obviously change the code to make it random. this exploit allows you to snipe with the shotgun. ridiculous. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> 1 pistol bullet > 1 shotgun pellet. I'll still snipe with my pistol thx.
And I hope flayra DOES alter the code because shotties SHOULD be random. A crosshair is not an exploit. It's just a crosshair. If you die to a long range shottie blast, don't whine about this crosshair. It could have been luck, without this crosshair someone could still luck a long range shotty hit, and if you're dying to shottie at range, a pistol would kill you anyway.
i've posted this as a bug, since it certainly seems to be: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72475' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=72475</a>
using a cusomtized crosshair doesn't give you any more advantage than knowing how the game works.
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<!--QuoteBegin-moomin.+Jun 4 2004, 09:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moomin. @ Jun 4 2004, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--=[Drake+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-=[Drake)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->=-,Jun 4 2004, 02:30 PM] God wot'll they think of next <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Crosshairs that actually show where your bullets are actually going allowing you to aim!?!?!?!?!
Unthinkable! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Think bigger!! Animated crosshairs that uses a complex algorythm to predict the placement of the next shot, olololol-.--
<!--QuoteBegin--=[Drake]=-+Jun 5 2004, 01:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-=[Drake]=- @ Jun 5 2004, 01:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> that wasnt very grown up fuzzy
ppl r entitiled to their own opinions <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but sounds like hes trying to get this locked to me :o
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> I think this will LEVEL the playing field so that every one has a chance to get a more acurate x-hair.
but you also have to compensate for the speed of the players that your are going to attempt to try and kill, people are most of the times unpredictable, and therefor this is just Another sprite...a cool one..a Really cool one
A shotgun pellet does 10 damage at level 0, right?
This is hardly even better than a parasite, and this "shotgun sniping" will in no way break anything. It would take more than a clip of shotgun ammo to even kill a hive one skulk, if you're doing it a single pellet at a time.
So if you need it to help you aim, cool. If you're too leet for that, awesome. Just don't **** on the people that want its' parade.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Dubbilex+Jun 6 2004, 02:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dubbilex @ Jun 6 2004, 02:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A shotgun pellet does 10 damage at level 0, right?
This is hardly even better than a parasite, and this "shotgun sniping" will in no way break anything. It would take more than a clip of shotgun ammo to even kill a hive one skulk, if you're doing it a single pellet at a time.
So if you need it to help you aim, cool. If you're too leet for that, awesome. Just don't **** on the people that want its' parade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> 17/pellet, 5 pellets in the inner pentagon - 5 in the outer. At close range, all 10 can hit. At 20m, the 5 should hit -> 5pellets x -17hp/pellet = - 85 hp. Skulk with no carapace dies (-5hp), with carapace is left almost dead (25hp left).
How far is "20m"? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> There's no real measure of distance in the game, your definition of 20m could be the next guy's 10m =\
Also, it takes 90 damage to kill a skulk (1 armor is worth 2 hp)
<!--QuoteBegin-Weazel+Jun 7 2004, 09:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Weazel @ Jun 7 2004, 09:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Great idea, Great job... I'm definately using this. And poo to you who all cried exploit at the sight of something good. Shall we all go back to
_|_ _| ? Gee I hope not. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I actually use the 1.04 crosshair for all weapong but the SG =P
the default croshairs for marines suck a lot =\ I've changed everything except for gorge and acid rocket crosshairs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Is this crosshair sprite dynamical in any way? cuz mine stays put <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Apart from the fact that shotgun bullets disappear after ~16-17 metres.
Also, I do believe the thread you are looking for is <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72365' target='_blank'>here</a>.
ppl r entitiled to their own opinions
this is a blatant exploit. it's obviously a bug if the shotgun pellets don't go out randomly coz in real shotguns the pellets are designed to come out randomly. once flayra knows about this he will obviously change the code to make it random. this exploit allows you to snipe with the shotgun. ridiculous.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
...Hrmm..snipe with a shotgun...hrmm..you DO know that the effective ness and stopping power of a shotgun decreases the further you get away from your intended target...right?
tbh i don't think modifying crosshairs gives you much better aim <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<i>Very</i> naive statement... I won't go into the technicalities of consistency at the moment for fear of creating even more exploiters, but rest assured consistency does NOT sufficient protection in it's current form.
1 pistol bullet > 1 shotgun pellet. I'll still snipe with my pistol thx.
And I hope flayra DOES alter the code because shotties SHOULD be random. A crosshair is not an exploit. It's just a crosshair. If you die to a long range shottie blast, don't whine about this crosshair. It could have been luck, without this crosshair someone could still luck a long range shotty hit, and if you're dying to shottie at range, a pistol would kill you anyway.
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72475' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=72475</a>
using a cusomtized crosshair doesn't give you any more advantage than knowing how the game works.
Crosshairs that actually show where your bullets are actually going allowing you to aim!?!?!?!?!
Unthinkable! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Think bigger!! Animated crosshairs that uses a complex algorythm to predict the placement of the next shot, olololol-.--
ppl r entitiled to their own opinions <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
True, but sounds like hes trying to get this locked to me :o
othell was iffy to change to mp_consistency 1 due to peoples crosshairs not being default and ****. so this should be a good thing to the community
plus not an exploit if he publiclily posts it, same with Pugradio
This is hardly even better than a parasite, and this "shotgun sniping" will in no way break anything. It would take more than a clip of shotgun ammo to even kill a hive one skulk, if you're doing it a single pellet at a time.
So if you need it to help you aim, cool. If you're too leet for that, awesome. Just don't **** on the people that want its' parade.
This is hardly even better than a parasite, and this "shotgun sniping" will in no way break anything. It would take more than a clip of shotgun ammo to even kill a hive one skulk, if you're doing it a single pellet at a time.
So if you need it to help you aim, cool. If you're too leet for that, awesome. Just don't **** on the people that want its' parade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
17/pellet, 5 pellets in the inner pentagon - 5 in the outer. At close range, all 10 can hit. At 20m, the 5 should hit -> 5pellets x -17hp/pellet = - 85 hp. Skulk with no carapace dies (-5hp), with carapace is left almost dead (25hp left).
There's no real measure of distance in the game, your definition of 20m could be the next guy's 10m =\
Also, it takes 90 damage to kill a skulk (1 armor is worth 2 hp)
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_| ? Gee I hope not.
u may want to make it smaller
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_| ? Gee I hope not. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I actually use the 1.04 crosshair for all weapong but the SG =P
I've changed everything except for gorge and acid rocket crosshairs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(ninja edit!)
on topic, i think its not a exploit. Its not like your removing the teeth on skulks screen.