[wip] Ns_samuri

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

Well, I'm not 100% sure what this room is going to be <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> It might wind up being Maine Start atm... I have 3 possibilities:

Docking Control Hive

Docking Control: Marine Start

or the Ready Room...

problem is, I can't take any screenshots in game casue STEAM keeps turning em to pitch black BS XD

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

well, here's the best I can get with the current lack of co-operation by STEAM... stupid... facking... fugly SCREENSHOT BUGS! ARGH!

anywho, here's what I managed to get... of over 50 screenshots, this is ALL that tunred out...

Sorry for the HORRIBLE views... this is NOT my pick of the litter...

Anyway, on to the description

This room might be either

A) ReadyRoom
B) Hive Location: Docking Control
C) Docking Control: Marine Start

<img src='http://12.22.230.41/MicroTech/Hosted/Images/ns_zsamaurairr0002.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

<img src='http://12.22.230.41/MicroTech/Hosted/Images/ns_zsamaurairr0007.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

<img src='http://12.22.230.41/MicroTech/Hosted/Images/ns_zsamaurairr0008.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

<img src='http://12.22.230.41/MicroTech/Hosted/Images/ns_zsamaurairr0011.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Textures are NOT the finalized ones for most of the walls and roof, and the place where the ramp DOWN thru the floor is is a simple box with a null all around it... I'm still deciding what I want to put there (could be where the command chair goes... like the belly turret of a B-17 bomber!) But anyway, this is mainly an architectural update... any better/worse than what the old room was... considering this is only around 5 hours work total... much of it spent trying to fix a bug with my one ramp (a SINGLE verticie was off by like, HALF a milimeter... and it caused a leak XD) ... but wow... looking at the preview... man, I need to get this screenshot issue resolved... I'm only showing half of the darn room and a lot of the real architecture is behind me! I just can't get it to show up... *groan*

It's 2 am... I'm going to go sleep on it...

999Hydralisk · July 2004

I would make that a readyroom not a hive. Maybe a marine start?

Jezpuh · July 2004

Ever wondered why everything turned pitch black? Maybe it's because of crappy lighting..

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

JezPuh, I'm just going to pretend you don't exist...

Hydra, I'm not sure... maybe <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Olmy · July 2004

Those ramps are a good start, try and keep that theme up and start decorating the room with a vaguely similar theme...

Lt_Gravity · July 2004

jean luc: start WORKING!

Zyndrome · July 2004

To be honest: It looks like something that left my bowels this morning.

TychoCelchuuu · July 2004

You realize it's spelled samurai, eh? And I hope all those gray walls are simply awaiting texturing <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

Yes, the origional post was made early morning... my bad <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

And no, the walls wont' stay grey... almost none of the texturing is done... I'm not sure how to texture it till I figure out what I'm doing to use the room for... i think it'll be marine start tho <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Also: I have more work done... namely added the comm chair and finished the below-decks room... only thing is, 0 out of 12 of my screenshots tunred out... damn steam...

Jezpuh · July 2004

Seriously, what are you you blaming steam for? For making your screenshots looks crappy? Sorry but, no. It's not steam fault. It's either the map itself or your videocard.

Mendasp · July 2004

Steam doesn't take screenshots.

kow · July 2004

could you please stop posting?

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

*wonders why k\o\w is talking to himself:

Well, whatever the heck takes the SS's, it comes out a blank freaking square, and this only started for me after that last steam update occured ( I never noticed till then since I don't have much need for em till now) but I know it worked before (as I had one for reference on a steam ID)

Anywho, the screenshots will look VERY horrible as

A) As you know, I'm a stupid Onboard driver... software only (I didn't know that... this thing IS supposed to support OpenGL tho... 0o')
B) My screenshots are being flucked up by something
C) I'm not a pro mapper, so I'm still working on lighting
and D) DUH, it's not done!

Jezpuh · July 2004

Well, we have a very simple solution to that. Don't post screenshots.

Don't post them untill you have uncrappied them and have something wich we might we able to see.

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

Hence why I didn't POST the pure black ones...

*coughs*

and if you can tell me how to fix the problem with it being pure black, I'd be much appreciative

Jezpuh · July 2004

Eh.. right. So basicly you're posting the best looking crappy screenshots.
Seriously, get things straight first. Then post screenshots.

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

*sighs*

If you guys really want me to stop mapping that badly, heck, I'll do it. I'm about fed up with the BS this is getting me.

I know it isn't the best
I know the screencaps suck, not only because I'm new, but because my vid system (a crappy onboard POS) sucks

I know I have a lot to learn, but how do you learn, but by making mistakes?

Jezpuh · July 2004

WTH. When have we ever said that. We're trying to tell you to take your time. Noone's good at mapping the first time. It takes time. We're basicly telling you to wait with the screenshots untill you have more expirience.

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

Dude, the thing is, I really thought it DID look good! And then to come here and have 2 people post something like, nice try BUT you need to do this, is ok... but then when like, 5 others post OMG, THAT IS SH*T and post stupid stuff like an image of Hammer being dragged to the recycle bin... hell, it certainly is a bit of a turn off now isnt' it!

[/p*ssed]

Perdition · July 2004

JezPuh, you're a real ****, but I guess your high post count lets you do that, eh? You too k\o\w...what's your excuse? Honestly, both of you need to grow up a bit.

Jean Luc, the map is actually starting to look decent, I happened to like the dark, kind of creepy screenshots you posted. (Most recent ones I think.) As a newbie to the computer design scene, I know what kind of troubles you're going through. Just keep up the work, get yourself a video card, dont let **** like those two influence anything you do, and get us progress updates on the map. No more ready room! I want to see a hive location, marine start, a double resource area, the works.

Jezpuh · July 2004

My postcount what? Oh, that stupid number? Naw, it doesn't.

Anyway, just stay the hell out of it. We've talked on irc. Things SEEM to be straightend out now..

kow · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Perdition Flamethrower @ Jul 22 2004, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You too k\o\w...what's your excuse?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
my high postcou... oh wait.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>If you guys really want me to stop mapping that badly, heck, I'll do it. I'm about fed up with the BS this is getting me.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>Well if your mapping process involves mandatory thread updates and crappy screenshots, then yes, please stop mapping. Otherwise, if you can somehow stop making threads about your fantastic one room maps, then continue mapping.

Seriously, your thread is the only WIP thread which contains a map that has ONE ROOM. Crappy or not, it's not even a map yet.

Kouji_San · July 2004

Well technically it is a wip map even if it is a one room map <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /> Still no reason to bash him into the ground like this.

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

KoujiSan, your logic pwns all XD

Tho I do need to get a vid card... *sighs*

Enceladus · July 2004

I personally have the feeling that this is a great thread. even if I havn't replied anything yet <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> But I'm looking into it pretty often.
We all know that Jean Luc is a newbie and started with mapping recently, and I really see a progress in what he does. And yes, maybe there ar people who get annoyed by topics like these, and yes what he posts might not be comparable (?)with someone who maps since a few years. But I certainly have respect for jean luc being so constant and not quitting because some people love it to bash beginners.
Keepp up the good work. It surely is a long and hard way to go to get a good mapper with some quality results, but you're on the right way. Asking for feedback and trying to improve is the best thing you can do to learn properly.

kow · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jean Luc Picard @ Jul 22 2004, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> KoujiSan, your logic pwns all XD

Tho I do need to get a vid card... *sighs*  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
<a href='http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx800/index.html' target='_blank'>http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx800/index.html</a>

I hear it really helps you map.

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

*pokes the cow multiple times with a rusty, pointy iron pole* WHY DON"T YOU DIE!

oh, wrong cow... SORRY Farmer Joe!

k\o\w ... I think you spent ONE too many nights in a taboo jail cell...

lol, and thanks Sorcerer ... I jsut look at idiots like k\o\w as a potential way to improve my postcount... unfortunately, arguing with idiots hurts my head...

k\o\w, lookit THIS map I made! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />.. and, to get me to stop posting on the ns.org forums, k\o\w... as I told you in mIRC... I'd need you to give me your life force... however, I don't want anything as dirty, tainted, and soiled as that...

Kouji_San · July 2004

OMG ITS A GARG, RUN!!!

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</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
I jsut look at idiots like k\o\w as a potential way to improve my postcount</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Speaking of which, you have a funny number of posts -->

Jean_Luc_Picard · July 2004

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> I know! XD

BTW- currently working on a bunker...

[wip] Ns_samuri

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