Taking out the gorge is like saying marines should take out the welder and mines. Gorges were meant to be a defensive unit: you can web up hallways, heal hives and other players, and bile bomb their stuff from a distance on certain maps. There is absolutely no NEED to take out the gorge in CO. That is the most ridiculous idea I have heard so far. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yes gorge definitely needs to be removed from combat. Its ridiculous having to work so hard as a marine on a short timer and knowing your ultimately going to fail because the hive is being healed by one or more gorges with web.
The only problem with the gorge in combat is webs.
And the only problem with webs in combat is not that they're overpowered, but that their only decent counter was nerfed in this version.
You used to be able to at least deal with webs by running around with a welder. Which was fair, because you couldn't fight with a welder, so if you're clearing the way for your team mates you would be easy to dispatch and you take away from the aggregate firepower of your group.
Instead, in this version the welder has a random and inconsistent rate of fire and it takes too long or becomes too difficult to remove webs.
Once we get a welder that acts more like a welding torch. (Torches are continuous, not sputtering pieces of crap.) Gorges won't be a game over machine once they get webs.
Perhaps gorges shouldn't get experience from healing the hive. One of the problems is that marines go in and damage the hive and get some xp, followed by the gorge healing it for xp, which means they become a high-level gorge very quickly if the marines are having any success. If they don't get xp from healing the hive, it will take them a while to get adrenaline, and web, and whatever upgrades they need to survive a fight to get experience for the needed upgrades. Sure, they could stay skulk for a while to save for the upgrades, but that means they have to wait a while before they can heal the hive.
So, you are saying that aliens cant heal their hive, but the marines CAN heal their CC? That is not fair. That is nerfing the aliens even more than before. Also, webs act like mines do. You place them, and wait for some unsuspecting fool to venture into them. This can prove invaluable. But, lets flip the situation around, ok? Lets say the aliens are on the offensive and they get killed. Almost every guy has a welder at this point, so its a "game over" tactic that they can all heal their CC? Aliens get 1 or 2 units to heal their hive, whereas the entire marine team could have a welder if they wanted to. I think the basis on how hives / CC's are healed already is unfair since the aliens have the shorter end of the stick. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
lmao, you can't get high lvl for healing the hive. It takes like..900% worth of healing to get half of lvl 7. Come off it.
Anyway, i agree with avenger, if the aliens are nerfing themselves by taking more than 1 attacker out of the group to gorge, they're usually not going to win anyway. I for one always love to see 3 gorges in the hive. By that time i usually have the proper points i need for whatever upgrade path i chose and i just go with HA. Having 3 gorges means there are 3 less fades and oni there to kill/eat my fagile little self <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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And the only problem with webs in combat is not that they're overpowered, but that their only decent counter was nerfed in this version.
You used to be able to at least deal with webs by running around with a welder. Which was fair, because you couldn't fight with a welder, so if you're clearing the way for your team mates you would be easy to dispatch and you take away from the aggregate firepower of your group.
Instead, in this version the welder has a random and inconsistent rate of fire and it takes too long or becomes too difficult to remove webs.
Once we get a welder that acts more like a welding torch. (Torches are continuous, not sputtering pieces of crap.) Gorges won't be a game over machine once they get webs.
Anyway, i agree with avenger, if the aliens are nerfing themselves by taking more than 1 attacker out of the group to gorge, they're usually not going to win anyway. I for one always love to see 3 gorges in the hive. By that time i usually have the proper points i need for whatever upgrade path i chose and i just go with HA. Having 3 gorges means there are 3 less fades and oni there to kill/eat my fagile little self <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->