We Need A New Release!

ChapukwukChapukwuk Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15666Members
Is it THAT hard to fix two bugs?? Ns beta 4a is mess and we need an update! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    I think the're fixed, but they just want to fix as many bugs as possible, and make the game as balanced as possible (I.E. making the gorge spit do an extra 5 damage, and raising gorge health to 150/50).
  • yZoRyZoR Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26690Members
    Yeah its true, we badly need an update. But its not gonna help if you whine all day.
    The update will arrive soon so just hang in their <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NolSinkler+Aug 21 2004, 02:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NolSinkler @ Aug 21 2004, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->(I.E. making the gorge spit do an extra 5 damage, and raising gorge health to 150/50).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    they really going to raise the damage?
    if they do spit will do more damage than acid rocket....
    <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> pwnz teh <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    The gorges don't need the extra damage, they need to become more intelligent and stay out of fights!

    And release will happen when it will be done!
  • whiskey_colawhiskey_cola Join Date: 2004-08-12 Member: 30557Awaiting Authorization
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chapukwuk+Aug 21 2004, 02:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chapukwuk @ Aug 21 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it THAT hard to fix two bugs?? Ns beta 4a is mess and we need an update!  <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78083&st=0�entry1194423' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...33;entry1194423</a>

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The B5 changelog is looking rather ?thick?, with more than 90 items encompassing 7 different categories. That?s not even including map updates and changes!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span>
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    edited August 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span>
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited August 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Related post nuked.</span>
  • MaianMaian Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14069Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    <!--QuoteBegin-VampMaster+Aug 21 2004, 04:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (VampMaster @ Aug 21 2004, 04:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The gorges don't need the extra damage, they need to become more intelligent and stay out of fights!

    And release will happen when it will be done! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OT: Gorges should be more combat-oriented, so they'll be fun to play in Combat mode and can use bilebomb more often in Classic mode.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    edited August 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Related post nuked.</span>
  • InsomniaInsomnia Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17179Members
    edited August 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span>
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    edited August 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Related post nuked.</span>

    Anyway, I can't really believe that CS:S came out before NS5 though...

    OT: :O in i,ROBOT NS5 kills people lol natural selection (beta) 5 what nnice coincidence, they plan to have ns5 kill their users!

    'One man saw it coming'

    Am I right! or am I just crazy!!
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chapukwuk+Aug 21 2004, 07:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chapukwuk @ Aug 21 2004, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it THAT hard to fix two bugs?? Ns beta 4a is mess and we need an update! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is it <i>that</i> hard to fix two bugs? Any two random bugs? Prolly not. Two bugs (and it turned out that the client crashbug had in fact two seperate causes, so I'm not touching upon PSHB here) that are firmly embedded into multiple parts of an already highly complex code structure? Hell yes.
    Besides that, while those two bugs were what kept B5 from being released in time for the CPL, there were other issues that had always been on the 'should be in list', which is why B5 looks now by far more massive than expected. I'd like to say more, but fear the wrath of Zunni, so I'll shut up for now.
  • demonxdemonx Join Date: 2004-03-18 Member: 27414Members
    I'm curious on when they will stop doing the BETA's? I heard a rumor somewhere that B5 has a chance on being the official release of NS 3.0.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-demonx5584+Aug 22 2004, 08:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (demonx5584 @ Aug 22 2004, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm curious on when they will stop doing the BETA's? I heard a rumor somewhere that B5 has a chance on being the official release of NS 3.0. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, there was talk about it but there will be more betas before RC 3.
  • VB_PhatVB_Phat Join Date: 2004-07-20 Member: 30009Members
    They need to remove knockback all toghter
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    It was tried, it didn't work at all. Knockback is in there for a reason. The bugged across-the-room knockback is being removed for beta 5, and ordinary knockback may or may not be changed to push marines straight back.
  • eaglescoutiaeaglescoutia Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28812Members, Constellation
    You know i figure not say anything about this next patch. It'll come out when it comes out and if I complain about it not being out soon enough, then it'll just be more delayed...
  • k1ndredk1ndred Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23790Members
    easy guys...
    a PT friend of mine said that the next release will have a LOT, read a LOT, of bugfixes that was annoying all <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    let's wait and see what's coming <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    B5 was intended as a stable, relatively bug-free platform on which to build real balance. So no, it's not likely to be the official patch.

    Why does it matter anyway? I'm happy as long as things keep getting better.
  • UzguzUzguz Join Date: 2003-06-05 Member: 17016Members, Constellation
    Just why was this thread created?

    I usually hate those who say it, but this is one of those circumstances that calls for the traditional "it's done when it's done". Your complaints won't make it any faster.
  • SmoodCrooznSmoodCroozn Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Aug 22 2004, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Aug 22 2004, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It was tried, it didn't work at all. Knockback is in there for a reason. The bugged across-the-room knockback is being removed for beta 5, and ordinary knockback may or may not be changed to push marines straight back. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's when an onos flies 50 feet back from a marine's knife what bothers me.
  • Pepe_MuffassaPepe_Muffassa Join Date: 2003-01-17 Member: 12401Members
    money says that beta 5 will be re-named -

    v. 4.0 beta 1
  • MrChainsawMrChainsaw Join Date: 2004-04-07 Member: 27786Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-SmoodCroozn+Aug 23 2004, 07:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmoodCroozn @ Aug 23 2004, 07:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's when an onos flies 50 feet back from a marine's knife what bothers me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whoa.

    Since when?


    The super-air-knockback was the only knockback that actually made a gameplay difference, ain't it fun clipping on a skulk that's biting you and going nowhere when you're SUPPOSED to fly away a bit? But it's not like you ever fly away far enough to recover from the disorientation of being bit to actually line up a shot. (Unless you jump of course <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> )

    So yeah, knockback is pointless anyway.
  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    It should also be noted that it is difficult to get a patch out on time when professional games giants like EA keep stealing your coders.
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=14' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hp?showforum=14</a>

    This is the announcement forum, there have been updates placed here a few times in the last couple of weeks detailing a few things that are in B5.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->money says that beta 5 will be re-named -

    v. 4.0 beta 1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'll take this bet any day of the week..

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Besides that, while those two bugs were what kept B5 from being released in time for the CPL, there were other issues that had always been on the 'should be in list', which is why B5 looks now by far more massive than expected. I'd like to say more, but fear the wrath of Zunni, so I'll shut up for now.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nem that's exactly what I was going to write.. Other issues that people have been complaining about forever have been addressed, on top of some nice optimizations and other "hard to see" features.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm curious on when they will stop doing the BETA's? I heard a rumor somewhere that B5 has a chance on being the official release of NS 3.0. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Check the announcement page, it shows very clearly what the development process is in determining what becomes 3.0 Final.

    -Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team)
  • ChapukwukChapukwuk Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15666Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Aug 26 2004, 09:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Aug 26 2004, 09:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=14' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hp?showforum=14</a>

    This is the announcement forum, there have been updates placed here a few times in the last couple of weeks detailing a few things that are in B5.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->money says that beta 5 will be re-named -

    v. 4.0 beta 1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'll take this bet any day of the week..

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Besides that, while those two bugs were what kept B5 from being released in time for the CPL, there were other issues that had always been on the 'should be in list', which is why B5 looks now by far more massive than expected. I'd like to say more, but fear the wrath of Zunni, so I'll shut up for now.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nem that's exactly what I was going to write.. Other issues that people have been complaining about forever have been addressed, on top of some nice optimizations and other "hard to see" features.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm curious on when they will stop doing the BETA's? I heard a rumor somewhere that B5 has a chance on being the official release of NS 3.0. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Check the announcement page, it shows very clearly what the development process is in determining what becomes 3.0 Final.

    -Zunni (PR, Natural Selection team) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Swwwweeeet!!!!!!! I didn't know about the progress threads but what your doing is great. Keep up the great work, I have no doubt that you'll do a great job on b5.
  • murphyt4murphyt4 Join Date: 2003-12-12 Member: 24297Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We Need A New Release!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wahhhh i want new ns stuff so baad
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Guys, waiting only means good things, and while I'm not a PT, I can tell from talking to a few folks that frankly, NS is looking more and more incredible every time these guys try it. B5 probably won't be the final release, but for all we know- 3.0 final may be the game Flayra has always wanted.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    I just cant understand why they wont release smaller patches more often instead of one big super-giant patch that could be called 3.1 beta 1.
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    Isn`t knockb removed in b4?
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