It just worries me how people latch onto Japan's cartoons specifically. Other contries do good work too. But cartoons have just as wide spread of good to bad as TV and film. I personally prefer cartoons because of the enormous potential for unique style (see: Don Hertzfeld or Cat Soup or South Park). I'm just entertained by creativity like that. Movies can pull it off too (see: 12 Monkeys or Momento or Austin Powers) but it's more difficult and not as exagerated.
Here are the rules of anime world (applies mostly to dragonballz type stuff, but also to other anime stuff as well). Enjoy!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The laws of Anime is a growing list of physical, universal, and natural phenomenon that seem to appear in various forms in all sorts of anime. The original intent was an effort to classify these incidents into a list of "laws" that explained how Anime physics are different from our own (real?) world. It is our hope that you find them useful to studying Anime, or at the very least, worth a good chuckle.
#1 - Law of Metaphysical Irregularity- The normal laws of physics do not apply.
#2 - Law of Differential Gravitation- Whenever someone or something jumps, is thrown, or otherwise is rendered airborne, gravity is reduced by a factor of 4. * Some things have been known to "Float" for a few seconds before plummeting to hit the ground, vehicle, or someones cranium.
#3 - Law of Sonic Amplification, First Law of Anime Acoustics- In space, loud sounds, like explosions, are even louder because there is no air to get in the way.
#4 - Law of Constant Thrust, First Law of Anime Motion- In space, constant thrust equals constant velocity.
#5 - Law of Mechanical Mobility, Second Law of Anime Motion- The larger a mechanical device is, the faster it moves, Armoured Mecha are the fastest objects known to human science.
#6 - Law of Temporal Variability- Time is not a constant. Time stops for the hero whenever he does something "cool" or "impressive". Time slows down when friends and lovers are being killed and speeds up whenever there is a fight.
#7 - First Law of Temporal Mortality- "Good Guys" and "Bad Guys" both die in one of two ways - either so quick they dont even see it coming, OR its a long drawn out affair where the character gains much insight to the workings of society, human existence or why the toast always lands butter side down. *NOTE: Sometimes, Anime heroes or villains never really die! In these rare cases they were a clone or cyborg and the real hero/villains suspiciously missing in "Malletspace", or something.
#8 - Second Law of Temporal Mortality- It takes some time for bad guys to die... regardless of physical damage. Even when the "Bad Guys" are killed so quickly they dont even see it coming, it takes them a while to realize they are dead. This is attributed to the belief that being evil damages the Reality Lobe of the brain.
#9 - Law of Dramatic Emphasis- Scenes involving extreme amounts of action are depicted with either still frames or black screens with a slash of bright color (usually red or white).
#10- Law of Dramatic Multiplicity- Scenes that only happen once, for instance, a "Good Guy" kicks the "Bad Guy" in the face, are seen at least 3 times from 3 different angles.
#11- Law of Inherent Combustibility- Everything explodes. Everything. First Corollary- Anything that explodes bulges first. Second Corollary- Large cities are the most explosive substances known to human science. Tokyo in particular seems to be the most unstable of these cities, sometimes referred to as "The Matchstick City".
#12- Law of Phlogistatic Emission- Nearly all things emit light from fatal wounds.
#13- Law of Energetic Emission- There is always an energy build up (commonly referred to as an energy "bulge") before Mecha or space craft weapons fire. Because of the explosive qualities of weapons, it is believed that this is related to the Law of Inherent Combustibility.
#14- Law of Inverse Lethal Magnitude- The destructive potential of any object/organism is inversely proportional to its mass. First Corollary- Small and cute will always overcome big and ugly. Also known as the A-Ko phenomenon.
#15- Law of Inexhaustibility- No one *EVER* runs out of ammunition. That is of course unless they are cornered, out-numbered, out-classed, and unconscious.
#16- Laws of Inverse Accuracy- The accuracy of a "Good Guy" when operating any form of firearm increases as the difficulty of the shot increases. The accuracy of the "Bad Guys" when operating firearms decreases when the difficulty of the shot decreases. (Also known as the Stormtrooper Effect) Example: A "Good Guy" in a drunken stupor being held upside down from a moving vehicle will always hit, and several battalions of "Bad Guys" firing on a "Good Guy" standing alone in the middle of an open field will always miss. First Corollary- The more "Bad Guys" there are, the less likely they will hit anyone or do any real damage. Second Corollary- Whenever a "Good Guy" is faced with insurmountable odds, the "Bad Guys" line up in neat rows, allowing the hero to take them all out with a single burst of automatic fire and then escape. Third Corollary- Whenever a "Good Guy" is actually hit by enemy fire, it is in a designated "Good Guy Area", usually a flesh wound in the shoulder or arm, which restricts the "Good Guy" from doing anything more strenuous than driving, firing weaponry, using melee weapons, operating heavy machinery, or doing complex martial arts maneuvers. *Fourth Corollary- The more times the "Bad Guy" fires, the fewer times he will hit.
#36- Law of Quintupular Agglutination- Also called "The Five-man Rule", when "Good Guys" group together, it tends to be in groups of five. There are five basic positions, which are: 1) The Hero/Leader 2) His Girlfriend 3) His Best Friend/Rival 4) A Hulking Brute 5) A Dwarf/Kid Between these basic positions are distributed several attributes, which include: 1) Extreme Coolness 2) Amazing Intelligence 3) Incredible Irritation
#38- Law of Hydrostatic Emission- Eyes tend to be rather large in Anime. This is because they contain several gallons of water, which may be instantaneously released at high pressure through large tear ducts. The actual volume of water contained in the eyes is unknown, as there is no evidence to suggest that these reservoirs are actually capable of running out. The reason water tends to collect in the eyes is because Anime characters only have one large sweat gland, which is located at the back of the head. When extremely stressed , embarrassed, or worried, this sweat gland exudes a single but very large drop of sebaceous fluid. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Get the whole list <a href='http://www.gamingw.net/articles/325' target='_blank'>here</a>.
That_Annoying_KidSire of TitlesJoin Date: 2003-03-01Member: 14175Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Sep 16 2004, 04:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Sep 16 2004, 04:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Fina+Sep 16 2004, 06:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fina @ Sep 16 2004, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (ex: giant robots flying through space fighting with swords. WTH?) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That's one of the things I don't get... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hey now, the golden rule of anime is: The Bigger the robot, the faster that it will move
There is an Anime Club at my school as well. As to why anime is so poular, I couldn't tell you. To me it seems like its one of those things that either you like it or you don't.
anyways... if you want some mechanical factors of anime that are fun;
1) Anime never really gets 'old' like special effects in movies or whatever and at no point whatsoever in an anime do you think 'thats a special effect' making the whole thing infinitely more seamless ^^
2) Anime has thousands of different drawing styles. Anyone who 'hates' anime drawing style either hates drawing in general or really doesn't know what they're talking about as the variety of techniques used are extremely expansive. Most only seem to know of the 'big-eye' style that's commonly used in japanese adverts for those cute disposable character but if you've ever watched beyond a few limited ones you might be surprised. As mentioned earlier there's much more realistic and gritty styles available in such anime as Jin-Roh, Patlabour and Blood. If you feel like more like those intricate drawings you see in ancient fairytale books catch a peek at Flight of Dragons ^^ they range as much, if not more, in diversity as our own western animations.
3) If you want to 'get' anime remember what dub said. It's not a genre. It's better to think of it as just another set of films but from japan. That way you might remember all the japanese culture references that are bound to pop up along the way along with jokes that would probably go over the heads of those not used to the strange and sometimes outright drug-enduced humour of the land of the rising sun =3
The best films I'd recommend to enjoy anime are those by studio ghibli. They're epic, they're not too complicated, the art style is gentle and familiar so it won't offend your style tastes and it's very rare to find someone who can't enjoy a studio ghibli work ^^ I 'got into' anime because of a film by them called 'Laputa: Castle in the Sky'.
Generally I suspect it helps if you're into drawing or animation yourself as it makes it easier to appreciate the crisp lines, the flowing motion and the sometimes alarming amount of detail they put into these things <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
One thing I note is people mentioning 'long drawn out scenes' being there due to animation but I genuinely think that some of those scenes are actually just part of the japanese film-making style. In some of the live action movies I've seen from the shores of jp, they tend to have these tender moments of silence and stillness. I kinda like it... it makes such a break from the constant banging action of the western equivalents. Someone's always talking or shooting or moving while in the east they sometimes just slide into moments of serenity where 'nothing happens' by western standards. If you want to see a film that uses this from a non-japanese source watch 'lost in translation' which seems japanese in style; probably inspired somewhat by it's setting =3
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My roommate planned but never wrote a short blog on the topic of anime. Here's a paraphrase of the general idea of it:
<!--QuoteBegin-coil's version of FoolsRun's thoughts+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil's version of FoolsRun's thoughts)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Subject: I Hate Anime.
Point #1: 99% of any form of entertainment - music, movies, TV, anything - is crap. Pure crap. Pointless, watered down, unoriginal tripe mass-produced for the mass market.
Point #2: Anime is a form of entertainment; specifically, a style of motion picture. As such, point #1 applies to anime as it applies to any other form of entertainment.
Point #3: For some reason, a larger proportion of anime fans than fans of other media believe that their medium, purely because it is itself, is immune to Point #1.
Point #4: I don't get stupid raving fanboys.
Point #5: Therefore, I hate anime.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For the record, FoolsRun doesn't hate all anime. Our living room is adorned with wallscrolls of Ranma 1/2, Final Fantasy VIII, and Serial Experiments Lain. We have had excellent evenings watching Rurouni Kenshin. We drool over each and every Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli movie that comes out. We try to watch Cowboy Bebop on Adult Swim whenever we can (though it's been a while).
But these examples don't change the fact that 99% of anime is crap. And far too many anime fans give the impression that they'd cherish and worship a stinking, flaming pile of <edit>peas</edit> if it had been made in Japan.
coilAmateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance.Join Date: 2002-04-12Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
One would have to be blind and deaf - that is, entirely unable to experience DBZ in any form - to not think it was anything other than complete crap, Gem.
<!--QuoteBegin-coil+Sep 17 2004, 12:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 17 2004, 12:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One would have to be blind and deaf - that is, entirely unable to experience DBZ in any form - to not think it was anything other than complete crap, Gem. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> the japanese version was at least funny...at times. although, i only watched like 10 episodes of it.
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
Anime = Japanese Animation.
YES IT MEANS ABSOLOUTLY NOTHING!
Anime is not a Genre! The concepts of people likeing ALL anime is just stupid in my mind (again, thats like saying I like all western films). There is alot of very bad anime out there <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
edited September 2004
thats b/c Love hina is a realy great anime <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Involving plot like able chars funny etc.
The "One Male tossed in with a bunch of females" plot idea is sorta common, some amusing variations: Vandred: In this universe males and females live on different planets and hate eachother (reproduction via test tubes). 5 males are captured by a female pirate ship. Plot continues from there.
wait...
gotta take dog for a walk
Ninja Edit: Sin, all I can say is: DBZ Pokemon Digimon Yu Gi Oh Kiki's dilivery service (one of my faves) and MANY MANY others
anime is not one genre, there are MANY different genres in Anime
I don't like anime...manga IMO is much better...better art and plot. Some anime over a certain amount of time really lack in animation and plot they just put in useless stuff. Manga keeps to its style throughout the whole time.
<!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Sep 17 2004, 09:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Sep 17 2004, 09:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The "One Male tossed in with a bunch of females" plot idea is sorta common <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh I know all about the "one male tossed in with a bunch of females" plot <img src='http://www.nsarmslab.com/forums/html/emoticons/shifty.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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<!--QuoteBegin-The007+Sep 18 2004, 02:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The007 @ Sep 18 2004, 02:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't like anime...manga IMO is much better...better art and plot. Some anime over a certain amount of time really lack in animation and plot they just put in useless stuff. Manga keeps to its style throughout the whole time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> When I think manga I think of more bloodiness and less of the cuteness <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-The007+Sep 17 2004, 08:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The007 @ Sep 17 2004, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't like anime...manga IMO is much better...better art and plot. Some anime over a certain amount of time really lack in animation and plot they just put in useless stuff. Manga keeps to its style throughout the whole time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> /me shakes his head
you need to read more manga and watch more anime.
There is alot of all types of manga nad anime out there, just some of it is harder to find.
Infact, manga is relativly new in the states (it is within the past few years that comic shops and main stream book stores started carying Manga)
That is why you are only seeing the realy good stuff. (though alot of realy bad manga has been released also)
As for Manga being more bloody/serious/what not
go read the Love Hina Manga <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Manga, Just like anime, cartoons, and comics ranges over a VERY large area <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-pjofsky+Sep 18 2004, 08:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pjofsky @ Sep 18 2004, 08:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have a question--what exactly is the line between anime and a regular cartoon? Like, is Batman an anime? Or even Family Guy? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Anime = any cartoon made in Japan, or a foreign imitation thereof (although, that sometimes stretches the term a bit).
So... batman's definately not anime.
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Anime is like a more mature version of regular cartoons for kids.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wrsfght? No. It just tends to be, because Japan isn't as conservative as the USA. Anime is a medium, not a genre; I've seen some awful, utterly puerile anime, and anime that is specifically marketed towards kids has no guaruntees of quality\maturity.
This thread. I laugh. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I have to say, a lot of American cartoons annoy the hell out of me. And that's not even going into the Disney factor, which we will leave alone since we have a Anti-Disney rant on here somewhere anyway. People always talk about how exaggerated or odd or different (in a bad sense) anime is, but have you seen some of the utter garbage cartoons they show these days? Most 90's cartoons own today's cartoons.
Actually we all like anime because the Japanese have superior subliminal messaging techniques. We all like the Japanese so much now that when they invade we will join their side, thus evening the odds.
Seriously though, I've always really liked the art styles in anime. Its good to have a change from the same old crap we have here in the US.
On top of that not all anime is made for children, unlike 90% of the crap that america poops out. The very first anime I ever saw was Ninja Scroll, and obviously being an adult-orientated movie, I was completely awed. Even the childrens anime has themes childrens animation in the us wouldn't be caught dead with in it. War, death, deep love. The Japanese don't seem to be afraid to hide these issues from their children, instead have them embrace it, possibly to better prepare them for it when its time for them to personally deal with it. Dragonball Z even, (yes its a childrens show) has characters regularly dying, struggling with the end of human civilization, and beating characters into a bloody pulp. I mean some western cartoons have people getting beat up, but its obviously not serious IE PPG.
Personally I like pretty much any anime, though, even if I don't really like it I'll watch it to give it a chance.
EDIT: Also, Anime!= anything created by the Japanese. Its just what the Japanese call animation. Everyone just calls it anime if it came from Japan... its sort of but not really complicated. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Norml E. High+Sep 18 2004, 01:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Norml E. High @ Sep 18 2004, 01:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually we all like anime because the Japanese have superior subliminal messaging techniques. We all like the Japanese so much now that when they invade we will join their side, thus evening the odds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> "Even the odds"? With all the psychic teenagers, cyborgs and giant robots employed by their military, I'd say the odds are in their favour <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I can see liking the story and such, but I think it goes a lot deeper. Something could be absolute CRAP and people would like it JUST because it's anime. That's what I don't get. I thought Hellsing was... okay. If it were a real movie I think it'd only get maybe 3 out of 5 stars. The plot was okay, it had its moments, but it just had some really goofy stupid things in there.
But, because it's anime, it's got a handful of drooling fanboys following it.
Cowboy Bebop. Had some good episodes, had lots of bad ones. Again, 3 out of 5 stars. Maybe only 2. Same with Samurai Champloo. They suffer from not only pointless episodes, but some painfully cliche moments. The style? Yeah it's good. The show itself? Bleh. Again, though, it's anime, and a lot of people love it just for that.
FLCL. I'd give this thing negative stars. I'd give it a neutron star out of a billion stars. It sucks so much it keeps sucking until it explodes in a ball of pure suck. This ball of pure suck would consume all around it until it eventually vaporizes and shrinks in 88 trillion years. I couldn't watch more then about twenty minutes of this. The jokes weren't funny, I think I was supposed to laugh just because it was.... random? Stupid? It wasn't funny. It was just bizarre 'LOL HE GOT HIT WITH A GUITAR' humor. Again, it has a following of raving fanboys who like it just because it's anime. Considering how mind-numbingly stupid the first episode was, I can't see how normal people could watch more of this. But people did watch more of it. Only reason I can think they watched more of it is because it's anime.
Basically I don't really care how the 'style' is. It might look great. What REALLY matters is the show itself. Matrix had a lot of style. On the other hand, I thought Matrix 2 and 3 totally sucked. Anime might have great style, but just the same, the show itself is what matters, and frankly, I find most of them downright atrocious.
Hardly EEK. Ok so there's some weird fanatics out there but they're no different from the weirdos who <b>hate</b> things just because it's anime.
For the rest of us we obviously just have different tastes; dragonball z is anime and I loathe it. I wouldn't rate most stupid hentai either though I tend to avoid it where possible as it's just crud and I'm not into that kinda stuff (ven could probably review them for you though huh? ^~ ). I thought the crying freeman anime was poop too. On a fun note the live action they did of it was actually pretty good =o
I used to think X (movie not the series which I've not seen) was pretty good but I watched it again recently and to be honest it's actually pretty bad lol. I couldn't stop giggling at the sound they threw in for when one of the characters had a sword forced into them; it sounded like a kid playing with silly putty XD
I liked FLCL because I like strange, twisted stuff and I'm usually curious to see where it'll go. We just don't get that kind of thing from western cinemas outside of the occassional gem like johnny darko =3 And don't post saying it won't go anywhere because you only watched the first episode. You don't have a scooby where it all ends. Then again I suspect you're probably used to things being given to you right from the first episode; I much prefer having things collaesce over the duration of a series.
I liked Hellsing because I found the characters interesting; victoria seras was new to the vampire world and seeing her still retain her human values while trying to work in a unit who's main job was to wipe out her new kind was intriguing. Then there was the mysterious Alucard and the enigmatic relationship between him and integra hellsing.
I and many of the other posters here won't just like something because it's anime. That's as daft as hating consoles as a whole.
Sounds like you don't like 'pointless' bits and cliches so I'd avoid watching the vast majority of media out there in general no matter it's origin ranging from simpsons and family guy to farscape and babylon 5. Totally filled with cliches and pointless episodes that don't impact the story as a whole. But then again you don't really mention those just because they're western...
On a fun note I was totally unimpressed by the whole matrix trilogy. Even the first didn't wow me in the slightest; I just kept wondering why it gathered so many fanboys and I was offended to my core by silly people gabbering on about how 'deep' it was. It was an action film thinly veiled under the guise of a 'thinker' and that's what the west needed. Something they thought would have intellectual tones without actually engaging any real grey matter -.- I like the occassional action flick or whatever from time to time and though you can find a few films that geniunely require using your head they're somewhat thin on the ground compared to the head-breakers I can find sifting through the anime available. It's not because it's anime though, it's not even because it's japanese; it's just because it doesn't comes from a culture that lives in a permanent state of ADD =P
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The laws of Anime is a growing list of physical, universal, and natural
phenomenon that seem to appear in various forms in all sorts of anime. The original
intent was an effort to classify these incidents into a list of "laws" that
explained how Anime physics are different from our own (real?) world. It is our hope
that you find them useful to studying Anime, or at the very least, worth a good
chuckle.
#1 - Law of Metaphysical Irregularity- The normal laws of physics do not apply.
#2 - Law of Differential Gravitation- Whenever someone or something jumps, is
thrown, or otherwise is rendered airborne, gravity is reduced by a factor of 4.
* Some things have been known to "Float" for a few seconds before plummeting to hit
the ground, vehicle, or someones cranium.
#3 - Law of Sonic Amplification, First Law of Anime Acoustics- In space, loud
sounds, like explosions, are even louder because there is no air to get in the way.
#4 - Law of Constant Thrust, First Law of Anime Motion- In space, constant thrust
equals constant velocity.
#5 - Law of Mechanical Mobility, Second Law of Anime Motion- The larger a
mechanical device is, the faster it moves, Armoured Mecha are the fastest objects
known to human science.
#6 - Law of Temporal Variability- Time is not a constant. Time stops for the hero
whenever he does something "cool" or "impressive". Time slows down when friends and
lovers are being killed and speeds up whenever there is a fight.
#7 - First Law of Temporal Mortality- "Good Guys" and "Bad Guys" both die in one of
two ways - either so quick they dont even see it coming, OR its a long drawn out
affair where the character gains much insight to the workings of society, human
existence or why the toast always lands butter side down. *NOTE: Sometimes, Anime
heroes or villains never really die! In these rare cases they were a clone or cyborg
and the real hero/villains suspiciously missing in "Malletspace", or something.
#8 - Second Law of Temporal Mortality- It takes some time for bad guys to die...
regardless of physical damage. Even when the "Bad Guys" are killed so quickly they
dont even see it coming, it takes them a while to realize they are dead. This is
attributed to the belief that being evil damages the Reality Lobe of the brain.
#9 - Law of Dramatic Emphasis- Scenes involving extreme amounts of action are
depicted with either still frames or black screens with a slash of bright color
(usually red or white).
#10- Law of Dramatic Multiplicity- Scenes that only happen once, for instance, a
"Good Guy" kicks the "Bad Guy" in the face, are seen at least 3 times from 3
different angles.
#11- Law of Inherent Combustibility- Everything explodes. Everything.
First Corollary- Anything that explodes bulges first.
Second Corollary- Large cities are the most explosive substances known to
human science. Tokyo in particular seems to be the most unstable of these cities,
sometimes referred to as "The Matchstick City".
#12- Law of Phlogistatic Emission- Nearly all things emit light from fatal wounds.
#13- Law of Energetic Emission- There is always an energy build up (commonly
referred to as an energy "bulge") before Mecha or space craft weapons fire. Because
of the explosive qualities of weapons, it is believed that this is related to the
Law of Inherent Combustibility.
#14- Law of Inverse Lethal Magnitude- The destructive potential of any
object/organism is inversely proportional to its mass.
First Corollary- Small and cute will always overcome big and ugly. Also
known as the A-Ko phenomenon.
#15- Law of Inexhaustibility- No one *EVER* runs out of ammunition. That is of
course unless they are cornered, out-numbered, out-classed, and unconscious.
#16- Laws of Inverse Accuracy- The accuracy of a "Good Guy" when operating any form
of firearm increases as the difficulty of the shot increases. The accuracy of the
"Bad Guys" when operating firearms decreases when the difficulty of the shot
decreases. (Also known as the Stormtrooper Effect) Example: A "Good Guy" in a
drunken stupor being held upside down from a moving vehicle will always hit, and
several battalions of "Bad Guys" firing on a "Good Guy" standing alone in the middle
of an open field will always miss.
First Corollary- The more "Bad Guys" there are, the less likely they will
hit anyone or do any real damage.
Second Corollary- Whenever a "Good Guy" is faced with insurmountable odds,
the "Bad Guys" line up in neat rows, allowing the hero to take them all out with a
single burst of automatic fire and then escape.
Third Corollary- Whenever a "Good Guy" is actually hit by enemy fire, it is
in a designated "Good Guy Area", usually a flesh wound in the shoulder or arm,
which restricts the "Good Guy" from doing anything more strenuous than driving,
firing weaponry, using melee weapons, operating heavy machinery, or doing complex
martial arts maneuvers.
*Fourth Corollary- The more times the "Bad Guy" fires, the fewer times he
will hit.
#36- Law of Quintupular Agglutination- Also called "The Five-man Rule", when "Good
Guys" group together, it tends to be in groups of five. There are five basic
positions, which are:
1) The Hero/Leader
2) His Girlfriend
3) His Best Friend/Rival
4) A Hulking Brute
5) A Dwarf/Kid
Between these basic positions are distributed several attributes, which include:
1) Extreme Coolness
2) Amazing Intelligence
3) Incredible Irritation
#38- Law of Hydrostatic Emission- Eyes tend to be rather large in Anime. This is
because they contain several gallons of water, which may be instantaneously released
at high pressure through large tear ducts. The actual volume of water contained in
the eyes is unknown, as there is no evidence to suggest that these reservoirs are
actually capable of running out. The reason water tends to collect in the eyes is
because Anime characters only have one large sweat gland, which is located at the
back of the head. When extremely stressed , embarrassed, or worried, this sweat
gland exudes a single but very large drop of sebaceous fluid.
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hey now, the golden rule of anime is: The Bigger the robot, the faster that it will move
anyways... if you want some mechanical factors of anime that are fun;
1) Anime never really gets 'old' like special effects in movies or whatever and at no point whatsoever in an anime do you think 'thats a special effect' making the whole thing infinitely more seamless ^^
2) Anime has thousands of different drawing styles. Anyone who 'hates' anime drawing style either hates drawing in general or really doesn't know what they're talking about as the variety of techniques used are extremely expansive. Most only seem to know of the 'big-eye' style that's commonly used in japanese adverts for those cute disposable character but if you've ever watched beyond a few limited ones you might be surprised. As mentioned earlier there's much more realistic and gritty styles available in such anime as Jin-Roh, Patlabour and Blood. If you feel like more like those intricate drawings you see in ancient fairytale books catch a peek at Flight of Dragons ^^
they range as much, if not more, in diversity as our own western animations.
3) If you want to 'get' anime remember what dub said. It's not a genre. It's better to think of it as just another set of films but from japan. That way you might remember all the japanese culture references that are bound to pop up along the way along with jokes that would probably go over the heads of those not used to the strange and sometimes outright drug-enduced humour of the land of the rising sun =3
The best films I'd recommend to enjoy anime are those by studio ghibli. They're epic, they're not too complicated, the art style is gentle and familiar so it won't offend your style tastes and it's very rare to find someone who can't enjoy a studio ghibli work ^^
I 'got into' anime because of a film by them called 'Laputa: Castle in the Sky'.
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One thing I note is people mentioning 'long drawn out scenes' being there due to animation but I genuinely think that some of those scenes are actually just part of the japanese film-making style. In some of the live action movies I've seen from the shores of jp, they tend to have these tender moments of silence and stillness.
I kinda like it... it makes such a break from the constant banging action of the western equivalents. Someone's always talking or shooting or moving while in the east they sometimes just slide into moments of serenity where 'nothing happens' by western standards. If you want to see a film that uses this from a non-japanese source watch 'lost in translation' which seems japanese in style; probably inspired somewhat by it's setting =3
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Point #1: 99% of any form of entertainment - music, movies, TV, anything - is crap. Pure crap. Pointless, watered down, unoriginal tripe mass-produced for the mass market.
Point #2: Anime is a form of entertainment; specifically, a style of motion picture. As such, point #1 applies to anime as it applies to any other form of entertainment.
Point #3: For some reason, a larger proportion of anime fans than fans of other media believe that their medium, purely because it is itself, is immune to Point #1.
Point #4: I don't get stupid raving fanboys.
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For the record, FoolsRun doesn't hate all anime. Our living room is adorned with wallscrolls of Ranma 1/2, Final Fantasy VIII, and Serial Experiments Lain. We have had excellent evenings watching Rurouni Kenshin. We drool over each and every Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli movie that comes out. We try to watch Cowboy Bebop on Adult Swim whenever we can (though it's been a while).
But these examples don't change the fact that 99% of anime is crap. And far too many anime fans give the impression that they'd cherish and worship a stinking, flaming pile of <edit>peas</edit> if it had been made in Japan.
the japanese version was at least funny...at times. although, i only watched like 10 episodes of it.
YES IT MEANS ABSOLOUTLY NOTHING!
Anime is not a Genre!
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1) Big eyes
2) Exaggerations out the wazoo
3) All your base are belong to us.
I've never really liked anime.
But for the strangest reason, I can't stop watching Love Hina.
DATS SO WONDOOFUL!
Involving plot
like able chars
funny
etc.
The "One Male tossed in with a bunch of females" plot idea is sorta common, some amusing variations:
Vandred: In this universe males and females live on different planets and hate eachother (reproduction via test tubes). 5 males are captured by a female pirate ship. Plot continues from there.
wait...
gotta take dog for a walk
Ninja Edit:
Sin, all I can say is:
DBZ
Pokemon
Digimon
Yu Gi Oh
Kiki's dilivery service (one of my faves)
and MANY MANY others
anime is not one genre, there are MANY different genres in Anime
Oh I know all about the "one male tossed in with a bunch of females" plot <img src='http://www.nsarmslab.com/forums/html/emoticons/shifty.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
When I think manga I think of more bloodiness and less of the cuteness <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
True true... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
/me shakes his head
you need to read more manga and watch more anime.
There is alot of all types of manga nad anime out there, just some of it is harder to find.
Infact, manga is relativly new in the states (it is within the past few years that comic shops and main stream book stores started carying Manga)
That is why you are only seeing the realy good stuff. (though alot of realy bad manga has been released also)
As for Manga being more bloody/serious/what not
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Manga, Just like anime, cartoons, and comics ranges over a VERY large area <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Anime = any cartoon made in Japan, or a foreign imitation thereof (although, that sometimes stretches the term a bit).
So... batman's definately not anime.
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Wrsfght? No. It just tends to be, because Japan isn't as conservative as the USA. Anime is a medium, not a genre; I've seen some awful, utterly puerile anime, and anime that is specifically marketed towards kids has no guaruntees of quality\maturity.
Agreed, I miss Woody Woodpecker and Ren and Stimpy!!!
Seriously though, I've always really liked the art styles in anime. Its good to have a change from the same old crap we have here in the US.
On top of that not all anime is made for children, unlike 90% of the crap that america poops out. The very first anime I ever saw was Ninja Scroll, and obviously being an adult-orientated movie, I was completely awed. Even the childrens anime has themes childrens animation in the us wouldn't be caught dead with in it. War, death, deep love. The Japanese don't seem to be afraid to hide these issues from their children, instead have them embrace it, possibly to better prepare them for it when its time for them to personally deal with it. Dragonball Z even, (yes its a childrens show) has characters regularly dying, struggling with the end of human civilization, and beating characters into a bloody pulp. I mean some western cartoons have people getting beat up, but its obviously not serious IE PPG.
Personally I like pretty much any anime, though, even if I don't really like it I'll watch it to give it a chance.
EDIT: Also, Anime!= anything created by the Japanese. Its just what the Japanese call animation. Everyone just calls it anime if it came from Japan... its sort of but not really complicated. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"Even the odds"? With all the psychic teenagers, cyborgs and giant robots employed by their military, I'd say the odds are in their favour <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But, because it's anime, it's got a handful of drooling fanboys following it.
Cowboy Bebop. Had some good episodes, had lots of bad ones. Again, 3 out of 5 stars. Maybe only 2. Same with Samurai Champloo. They suffer from not only pointless episodes, but some painfully cliche moments. The style? Yeah it's good. The show itself? Bleh. Again, though, it's anime, and a lot of people love it just for that.
FLCL. I'd give this thing negative stars. I'd give it a neutron star out of a billion stars. It sucks so much it keeps sucking until it explodes in a ball of pure suck. This ball of pure suck would consume all around it until it eventually vaporizes and shrinks in 88 trillion years. I couldn't watch more then about twenty minutes of this. The jokes weren't funny, I think I was supposed to laugh just because it was.... random? Stupid? It wasn't funny. It was just bizarre 'LOL HE GOT HIT WITH A GUITAR' humor. Again, it has a following of raving fanboys who like it just because it's anime. Considering how mind-numbingly stupid the first episode was, I can't see how normal people could watch more of this. But people did watch more of it. Only reason I can think they watched more of it is because it's anime.
Basically I don't really care how the 'style' is. It might look great. What REALLY matters is the show itself. Matrix had a lot of style. On the other hand, I thought Matrix 2 and 3 totally sucked. Anime might have great style, but just the same, the show itself is what matters, and frankly, I find most of them downright atrocious.
For the rest of us we obviously just have different tastes; dragonball z is anime and I loathe it. I wouldn't rate most stupid hentai either though I tend to avoid it where possible as it's just crud and I'm not into that kinda stuff (ven could probably review them for you though huh? ^~ ).
I thought the crying freeman anime was poop too. On a fun note the live action they did of it was actually pretty good =o
I used to think X (movie not the series which I've not seen) was pretty good but I watched it again recently and to be honest it's actually pretty bad lol. I couldn't stop giggling at the sound they threw in for when one of the characters had a sword forced into them; it sounded like a kid playing with silly putty XD
I liked FLCL because I like strange, twisted stuff and I'm usually curious to see where it'll go. We just don't get that kind of thing from western cinemas outside of the occassional gem like johnny darko =3
And don't post saying it won't go anywhere because you only watched the first episode. You don't have a scooby where it all ends.
Then again I suspect you're probably used to things being given to you right from the first episode; I much prefer having things collaesce over the duration of a series.
I liked Hellsing because I found the characters interesting; victoria seras was new to the vampire world and seeing her still retain her human values while trying to work in a unit who's main job was to wipe out her new kind was intriguing. Then there was the mysterious Alucard and the enigmatic relationship between him and integra hellsing.
I and many of the other posters here won't just like something because it's anime. That's as daft as hating consoles as a whole.
Sounds like you don't like 'pointless' bits and cliches so I'd avoid watching the vast majority of media out there in general no matter it's origin ranging from simpsons and family guy to farscape and babylon 5. Totally filled with cliches and pointless episodes that don't impact the story as a whole. But then again you don't really mention those just because they're western...
On a fun note I was totally unimpressed by the whole matrix trilogy. Even the first didn't wow me in the slightest; I just kept wondering why it gathered so many fanboys and I was offended to my core by silly people gabbering on about how 'deep' it was. It was an action film thinly veiled under the guise of a 'thinker' and that's what the west needed. Something they thought would have intellectual tones without actually engaging any real grey matter -.-
I like the occassional action flick or whatever from time to time and though you can find a few films that geniunely require using your head they're somewhat thin on the ground compared to the head-breakers I can find sifting through the anime available. It's not because it's anime though, it's not even because it's japanese; it's just because it doesn't comes from a culture that lives in a permanent state of ADD =P