Am I The Only One Who Hates Bhop?
HeWhoSeeksDreams
Join Date: 2004-08-30 Member: 31049Members
Join Date: 2004-08-30 Member: 31049Members
I actually came to NS because I was sick of all the commonly used exploits in TFC. Call me old fashioned, but if you shoot a bazooka at the ground near your feet, you should DIE. And a bunch of heavy weapon guys hopping all over the place is just plain stupid. Yet, this kind of thing seems to be universally accepted, and anybody who knows how does it. Does this bother anybody else, or am I the only one who sees them as bugs that should be fixed?
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one million percent correct.
know that bunny hopping was left in intentially for the aliens.
ROCKET JUMPING IS AN EXPLOIT
SEE FIRST LINE
Personally, I very much like the movement skill aspect of bunnyhopping, but I dislike how it breaks the atmosphere and is not intuitive.
rofl you're whining about rocket jumping and bhop but not whining about HWGs (which you mention in your post) which are 100 times more game-breaking to TFC than either RJ or bhop.
NICE JOB!
Anyone who does it is exploiting the game engine, as well, it unneeding lags hitboxes, very unfair, you can go faster than celerity, which is unfair by default. Someone bhopping a corner can instantly kill a marine in the middle of room before he sees it. There's no doubt in a rational persons mind it's an exploit, it's exploiting the engine, the question is it accepted? Well it is, and that's why it is still around, the same people who want ex_interp back are the same type of people who want to keep bhop in.
"Bhopping takes skills, everyone can bhop", unfortunately what people don't seem to realize is none of those things justify it being an exploit to the engine, anyone can hack, and anyone can be a skilled hacker, takes a skill of a different kind, just like bhopping.
Most of the competitive players don't want to live without it, because it gives them an edge, most will do anything to get an unfair up on someone else, all scripting besides special reporting in messages, just be banned, so should bhopping.
(omg customizing my config brought a whole new dimension to the game!1111!)
Anyone who does it is exploiting the game engine, as well, it unneeding lags hitboxes, very unfair, you can go faster than celerity, which is unfair by default. Someone bhopping a corner can instantly kill a marine in the middle of room before he sees it. There's no doubt in a rational persons mind it's an exploit, it's exploiting the engine, the question is it accepted? Well it is, and that's why it is still around, the same people who want ex_interp back are the same type of people who want to keep bhop in.
"Bhopping takes skills, everyone can bhop", unfortunately what people don't seem to realize is none of those things justify it being an exploit to the engine, anyone can hack, and anyone can be a skilled hacker, takes a skill of a different kind, just like bhopping.
Most of the competitive players don't want to live without it, because it gives them an edge, most will do anything to get an unfair up on someone else, all scripting besides special reporting in messages, just be banned, so should bhopping.
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rofl there are so many things wrong with your post I don't even want to start... I gotta go to sleep <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you think it shouldn't be a part of the game, you tell the game developers. You don't try to force people to play the game the way you think it should be played.
and I downloaded NS the day v1.0 came out (halloween baby <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). What's your point? Length of time playing NS has nothing to do with how educated you are, because apparantly, you don't know what's up <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
More silly posts, no justification or anything, a lot of people don't like a lot of things about the game, it doesn't mean we're going to toss it. Alot of people including myself would like to see a good game come out of what now is shambles, public games are nubstricken jokes of a games and competitive games are lopsided and are based on what scripts you're using and how well you can bhop.
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Still you justify NOTHING. Go to sleep.\
Of course majority rules, which is why head hitboxes in cs are nearly as big your ego, and it's that way because of 12 year olds who feel that's the way it should be.
Really, of course I couldn't compare those, because bhopping is an exploit of the half life engine, and you really can't justify that.
The fact that the developers left it in intentionally does, in fact, mean that bunnyhopping is entirely legal and ethical.
If you can't justify it, which you can't, do not bother posting, seriously.
We're in a general discussion, where we discuss general things.
I said it's explotive, and it is.
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In your ideal world perhaps, whatever you say - is. In the real world, the word exploit is subjective and this is the case here.
The game isn't perfect, far from it, which is why it's dying, lot's of things were intentionally put in the game, that doesn't make it fit for the game.
I could put in a confident bet right now, that if there's a natural selection 2, there won't be any integrated "bhopping"
You may also notice that the game is currently in "Beta", you can check this in many ways, check your install file.
a "Beta" would be where they go ahead and try things out.
Look into it.